Wishlist for CoD: MW2

[Prussian to the Iron]

No more disturbing than WaW forcing you to gun down Germans as they tried to flee or watching as your comrades slaughter PoWs and encourage you to kill men trying to surrender.

much more disturbing; here is what happens in that scene in WaW:

1. WaW takes place 65 years ago.
2. We can detach ourselves from that, because they are "the bad guys"
3. You have to admit that the Sergeant (Reznov?) makes it a little funny
4. Those scenes aren't on such a large scale. there are maybe 2-3 scenes of that? and those scenes are very short, and 3 people and at largest maybe 10 for the scene in the fields where you get molotovs.


Here is what happens in that scene from MW2:

1. It takes place in a post-9/11 world where everyday innocents are killed for no reason by terrorists.
2. You and 4 other terrorists cold-heartedly slaughter hundreds of innocent people in an airport
3. Crawling, mangled people trying to escape are shot
4. The screaming is extremely unnerving.


If anyone remembers a while back I had that thread "Is there something wrong with me?" because I had this horrible gory dream. That is what I imagine this scene will be like, only the people never did anything bad and you kill hundreds.


Like I said; I'm going to turn the sound off, and walk backwards looking at the ceiling until the firefight occurs.

[Monk]

much more disturbing; here is what happens in that scene in WaW:

1. WaW takes place 65 years ago.
2. We can detach ourselves from that, because they are "the bad guys"
3. You have to admit that the Sergeant (Reznov?) makes it a little funny
4. Those scenes aren't on such a large scale. there are maybe 2-3 scenes of that? and those scenes are very short, and 3 people and at largest maybe 10 for the scene in the fields where you get molotovs.

No, I do not.

The violence portrayed in WaW was very intense, enough so that even though it took place over six decades ago it had a powerful message: War is ugly. There are also more than three scenes, but listing off the ones I remember wouldn't prove a point. The original point is that WaW encouraging war-crimes is just the same as this imho.

1. It takes place in a post-9/11 world where everyday innocents are killed for no reason by terrorists.
2. You and 4 other terrorists cold-heartedly slaughter hundreds of innocent people in an airport
3. Crawling, mangled people trying to escape are shot
4. The screaming is extremely unnerving.

I'm really failing to see the difference. Was it any less bad when the soviet commander demanded you to kill surrendering germans near the subway, but if you refused he ordered them burned alive with molotovs and mocked you?

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"You should have been merciful and saved those animals some misery."

The Call of Duty series already took steps down this road in WaW. The only difference this time around is that Infinity Ward seems to understand not everyone wants to interact with this sort of scene, instead of shoe-horning you into the situation and further punishing you if you don't play along like Treyarch did.

[Prussian to the Iron]

well, if it is the same than why is there a big outrage with this and not with WaW?

and you were never forced to kill POW's or surrendering germans in WaW either. you could, but you could also look away for 5 seconds.

you don't seem to get that there is now an entire level devoted to killing civilians.

maybe you just think different than everyone else, but nobody else seemed to care much about WaW's few scenes where POWs or surrendering enemies were killed by you.


this isnt a debate. im not arguing this any further.

[Monk]

well, if it is the same than why is there a big outrage with this and not with WaW?

I dunno, no one was paying attention?

maybe you just think different than everyone else, but nobody else seemed to care much about WaW's few scenes where POWs or surrendering enemies were killed by you.

this isnt a debate. im nto arguing this any further.

I just don't feel the two things are that different. While I very much dislike the scene, I don't understand why there's so much outrage now instead of then.

[Husar]

Call of Duty: Brütal Warfare?

Really seems a bit useless, playing the bad guy, but whatever.

[Hooahguy]

Call of Duty: Brütal Warfare?

Really seems a bit useless, playing the bad guy, but whatever.

apparently its part of the story.

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apparently you were, in the mission, a CIA or whatever agent who was with the bad guys, trying to get close to marakovs ring of advisors or something along those lines. or so i read somewhere.

[Prussian to the Iron]

apparently its part of the story.

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apparently you were, in the mission, a CIA or whatever agent who was with the bad guys, trying to get close to marakovs ring of advisors or something along those lines. or so i read somewhere.

I read that too, but you die at the end. apparently they knew.

Still, I wouldn't kill people like that just to infiltrate his inner ring. I would instead have called the police as soon as possible, and wear some sort of defining clothing. at least then they would be caught as soon as they got off the elevator; maybe I'd have one other guy not get caught too so it didnt look suspicious. we would run and they wouldn't get us. then I'd continue infiltrating.

apparently the CIA isn't as smart as a 14 year old boy.

[tibilicus]

apparently its part of the story.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

apparently you were, in the mission, a CIA or whatever agent who was with the bad guys, trying to get close to marakovs ring of advisors or something along those lines. or so i read somewhere.

Makes sense.

And then they kill the CIA agent to make it look like an American plot and as a result support gathers for the ultra nationalist movement.

Guess it does kind of fit in..