Departed Dethy Mafia II [Concluded]

5 man game 1 mafia 4 cops

all the standard rules
24 hours Day
24 Hours Night
Voting No lynch is allowed
No revealing investigation results upon death.
You must wait untill the end of any night sequance to reveal and results you may have

If you have any questions about Dethy Mafia just P.M me

Years ago, a powerful Irish mafia figure placed a small selection of his youngest, brightest men into the Massachusetts State Police Academy as cadets. Their purpose is to eventually rise within the prestigious ranks of the state police department, to serve as the eyes and ears of their boss. While somewhere else, a young cadet was assigned with an equally dangerous task: infiltrate the Irish syndicate headed by the man sending in his own to the Massachusetts State Police. Now, one cadet is an up and coming police official with a torn allegiance to his job and to the criminal mastermind that put him there. With Frank Costello about to be arreasted one thing needs to be done before the case can proceed. They need to find the rat in the organisation and destroy him

Sign Ups

5/5
Johnhughthom
Secura
Double A
Saskai
Methos

Yep.

I'm in.

Wort wort! Wort wort wort! WOOOORT!


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Holy crap! Another Dethy Mafia! IIIIIIIIIIN!

Please don't be using any codewords in your game CB, somebody here has a slight problem with them. :wink:

Oh shut up, baldy.

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Originally Posted by Double A

Oh shut up, baldy.

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Just since you made me smile with that highly intelligent rejoinder I promise never to mention it again.

And I'll stop spamming your sign ups CB. Two more please. Not you Naughty Beskie, I don't like you anymore.

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Originally Posted by johnhughthom

Just since you made me smile with that highly intelligent rejoinder I promise never to mention it again.

And I'll stop spamming your sign ups CB. Two more please. Not you Naughty Beskie, I don't like you anymore.

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Thank you, come again.

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Originally Posted by johnhughthom

Not you Naughty Beskie, I don't like you anymore.

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If it's the Beskie I know, that will only make him wanna sign up to irk you. :P

In.

I'm in.

Even worse, you got my former Mafia tutor instead. Sensei Sasaki.

Though he isn't happy I swapped him with Sensei AskthePizzaGuy, tainting his teachings with cheese.

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Originally Posted by Beskar

Even worse, you got my former Mafia tutor instead. Sensei Sasaki.

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Any game with Sasaki is a privilige to play.

Role Pm's sent let the games begin

Day 1 Begins

Ah I remember this game if I remember correctly we won on the first turn by lynching the least active player. I hope that the mafia in this one will be less obvious.

So we're in Day Phase now then? I suppose I will get the ball rolling then.

I think it's worth taking a look at this post from the last game. If we advocate a lynch on this round, we have a 25% chance of getting the mafia. The odds are slightly better than a seven-man, at least.

Alternatively, we could vote no lynch and use the explanation that the host provided in the previous game, which would see an investigation cycle a la:

johnhughthom investigates Methos
Double A investigates johnhughthom
Secura investigates Double A
Sasaki investigates Secura
Methos investigates Sasaki

Naturally, all investigation results would be shared publicly so we can figure out who is which type of cop and such. By Day Three, there would only be two of us left against the scum, but we'd have enough evidence to take them down.

I'd like to see what ideas the rest of you have, but I'm leaning slightly more towards the latter option at the moment; it means we get a little more information to work with. :3

Having evaluated the pros and cons of each option, I have decided to vote: no lynch this round.

If we lynch, we do have a small chance of finding the killer; if we do, we win, if we do not, we've essentially gambled and lost. In Day Two, we would have three pieces of investigation results to work from, with one being faked by the mafia. It would be difficult to work out who is who from two legitimate results.

If we do not lynch, we will have four pieces of results on Day Two, and three more on Day Three, resulting in seven total, two of which are faked. This means that on Day Three, there will be five legitimate results that should help the two remaining townies to work out their roles and who the scum is.

Secura is the mafia.

Vote:Secura

I suspected that someone would jump such a foolish conclusion; I hadn't thought that it would be you, Sasaki, of all people.

What is your reasoning behind such a vote? To me, it seems like a scummy attempt to kill someone who's utilising their brain to figure things out. There's no better option this round but to vote for no lynch. You're effectively killing the town's ability to win by doing so... so why would you do that?

I can assure you that I am a simply cop, though I don't believe that will sway you.

Allow me to clarify; if you mistakenly lynch in this phase, you're going into the next day phase with only three people remaining and minimal investigation results to deduce who is the true murderer. How're you going to deduce who is actually the mafia when you've got paranoid/trusting/backwards/whatever results to decipher as well as the fact that one of those pieces is actually fake?

Lynching me, a cop, will result in a town loss. If that's what you want, cool beans, vote Secura by all means. But if you'd like an actual chance at town victory, vote for no lynch, so that we can go into the next day phase with four players intact and the maximum amount of investigation results.

That's the be-all, end-all of it. It's your choices now, boys.

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Originally Posted by Secura

I suspected that someone would jump such a foolish conclusion;I hadn't thought that it would be you, Sasaki, of all people.

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Why did you think people would jump to the conclusion that you were mafia?

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What is your reasoning behind such a vote? To me, it seems like a scummy attempt to kill someone who's utilising their brain to figure things out.

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You suspected that people might jump to conclusions, so you must have some suspicion of what my reasoning is, yes?

You say I am scummy, but in your first sentence you chided me for playing poorly as a townie and jumping to conclusions. You were describing me as town, now you claim I am scummy.

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There's no better option this round but to vote for no lynch. You're effectively killing the town's ability to win by doing so... so why would you do that?

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See, you aren't utilizing your brain to come up with a new strategy, you are just copying what CB said from the last game. Why do you think each person investigating someone to their left is the best strategy?

With two lynches, we have a 53% chance at finding mafia (assuming we lynch randomly instead of lynching scummy people!). With one with have a 33% chance, and less in thread info. The 4 extra investigations have to make up the difference. One strategy is not vastly superior to the other, especially if someone in the the thread seems very suspicious.

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I can assure you that I am a simply cop, though I don't believe that will sway you.

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This implies that you think I'm town.

In summary:

Secura thought people would find her posts suspect--mafia tell
She jumped right in with a bunch of townie strategy talk, but it looks more like an attempt to convince us that she herself is pro town.
She alternates between blatantly assuming I am town, to trying and discredit my argument by saying it is scummy
She sounds like mafia

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

Why did you think people would jump to the conclusion that you were mafia?

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You suspected that people might jump to conclusions, so you must have some suspicion of what my reasoning is, yes?

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I see your reasoning, yes. I believed someone would jump upon what I had written because this is such a small game, whereby the slightest mistake is likely to cost the town the game. If people see something slightly scummy, well they're going to bring it to task.

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You say I am scummy, but in your first sentence you chided me for playing poorly as a townie and jumping to conclusions. You were describing me as town, now you claim I am scummy.

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This implies that you think I'm town.

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Actually, I never suggested you were town; it was a general address to all four of you. I don't really see any evidence to suggest you're scum or not. I also wasn't chiding you, I was simply hoping that you would see the post for what it was; an explanation of the game based upon the previous rendition, nothing more.

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See, you aren't utilizing your brain to come up with a new strategy, you are just copying what CB said from the last game. Why do you think each person investigating someone to their left is the best strategy?

With two lynches, we have a 53% chance at finding mafia (assuming we lynch randomly instead of lynching scummy people!). With one with have a 33% chance, and less in thread info. The 4 extra investigations have to make up the difference. One strategy is not vastly superior to the other, especially if someone in the the thread seems very suspicious.

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I concede that the ideas were not actually mine. To be honest, you could investigate anyone, but if we ensured each person had been investigated that night, then surely we would have a better idea of the game rather than everyone investigating as they saw fit and Blackadder ending up with four people investigating you, for example.

If you lynch me, which isn't going to end the game by the way, then you're left with three people in Day Two. How are you going to win at that point?

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Secura thought people would find her posts suspect--mafia tell

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Who wouldn't in a game this size? There's so few of us, I'd be going over everything with a fine toothcomb.

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She jumped right in with a bunch of townie strategy talk, but it looks more like an attempt to convince us that she herself is pro town.

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It's simply me hoping to win the game as town.

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She alternates between blatantly assuming I am town, to trying and discredit my argument by saying it is scummy

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Again, it was a general address to the four of you, not solely to Sasaki. I found what you said scummy because you were trying to call me out for, quite frankly, flip all.

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She sounds like mafia

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And then I can laugh when everyone leaps onto another Sasaki bandwagon and it transpires that you're incorrect, right?

unvote:Secura, fos: Secura

It does seem a shame not to use the mechanic. We could use each day as if we were going to lynch someone, and then go for no lynch and do the investigation thing. That gives us a fallback in case the investigation results are inconclusive.

It might be the best strategy to have 3 people investigate secura tonight, and two people investigate me. Or someone else. Is it allowed to coordinate out of thread?

But I don't see how that plan works out really. One cop is killed, and one cop gets no results because his target was killed (if the mafia doesn't kill the person they were supposed to investigate). That means we just have two results going into day 2. Then the mafia can kill one of the people who got a result, that leaves only one person with two results.

johnhughthom investigates Methos
Double A investigates johnhughthom
Secura investigates Double A
Sasaki investigates Secura
Methos investigates Sasaki

For example, let's say that secura is mafia. She kills me tonight, so I get no results, and methos gets no results. John and hugh are the only ones with real results. Then secura kills john, so he gets no results and methos gets no results. In endgame, secura has fake results on Double A and methos, methos has no results, and Double A has a result on john and a result on secura. If he got innocent on john and guilty on secura, then we know she's guilty. If he got innocent on both, then methos could be guilty or john could be naive. If he got guilty on john and innocent on secura, then he's insane and secura is guilty. Guilty on both and he's paranoid.

But I think secura can fake the same results just as easily. In which case it ends up being a coinflip between the two of them, right? Are roles revealed upon death?

Compare that to the scenario where we lynch today, which has a higher base percentage.

Though the argument is already very interesting, might as well give Secura a little more leverage. Vote: Sasaki Kojiro.

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Originally Posted by Methos

Though the argument is already very interesting, might as well give Secura a little more leverage. Vote: Sasaki Kojiro.

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What's very interesting about the argument?

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

unvote:Secura, fos: Secura

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I can live with that, because I can understand why I might seem suspect. You're still barking up the wrong tree, but it's a start I guess.

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It might be the best strategy to have 3 people investigate secura tonight, and two people investigate me. Or someone else. Is it allowed to coordinate out of thread?

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I wholeheartedly advocate this. Three people wasting their investigations on me isn't going to help the town one iota, but if it proves my innocence, go for it. Of course, one of the people who investigates me could be the mafia, and they could just as easily fabricate the results to make me seem more culpable.

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But I think secura can fake the same results just as easily. In which case it ends up being a coinflip between the two of them, right? Are roles revealed upon death?

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I'm flattered that you're so fixated upon me being scum that you haven't (if you are even town yourself) considered the fact that Methos, JHT or Double A could be scum instead. I'd like to be credited with a small amount of intellect that I wouldn't be so stupid as to bring so much attention to myself if I was the mafia.

I assume by 'roles' you mean whether the dead person was paranoid, backwards or whatnot? I'd hazard a guess at that sort of information being revealed if the player was lynched, but perhaps not if they were murdered. Dunno, though.

I'd have to think about it more, but I'm not sure the investigation plan gives us better than 50/50 odds. The mole can just counterclaim one of the real cops. Unless there's some way that we can conclude it's them by forcing them to claim their results first.

Actually I was approaching it as if the everyone claimed both of their results in the endgame. But they have to claim one result the day before.

It seems like the best plan is to no lynch, and force the scummiest people to claim their results first. It still might not be better than straight up lynching though.

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

What's very interesting about the argument?

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Are you saying your participating in an argument that you don't find interesting?

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Originally Posted by Methos

Are you saying your participating in an argument that you don't find interesting?

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No. What do you find interesting about the argument?

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

unvote:Secura, fos: Secura

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What is FOS?

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Originally Posted by Methos

Vote: Sasaki Kojiro.

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I appreciate this vote, thank you. However, the reason I haven't turned around with an OMGUS vote on Sasaki is because I don't feel lynching is the best course of action at this moment in time, so I'm still going to advocate no lynch for the time being. :3

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

I'd have to think about it more, but I'm not sure the investigation plan gives us better than 50/50 odds. The mole can just counterclaim one of the real cops. Unless there's some way that we can conclude it's them by forcing them to claim their results first.

Actually I was approaching it as if the everyone claimed both of their results in the endgame. But they have to claim one result the day before.

It seems like the best plan is to no lynch, and force the scummiest people to claim their results first. It still might not be better than straight up lynching though.

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I've been wracking my head over it all morning and afternoon, and I haven't really thought of a better option. I'd rather we go into Day Two with four people than three.

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Originally Posted by Methos

What is FOS?

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Finger of suspicion.

It means that he isn't voting for me, but wants the three of you to know that he finds my words and actions suspect.

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Originally Posted by Secura

I appreciate this vote, thank you. However, the reason I haven't turned around with an OMGUS vote on Sasaki is because I don't feel lynching is the best course of action at this moment in time, so I'm still going to advocate no lynch for the time being. :3

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My vote against Sasake was merely to remove some of his advantage. I wanted to hear from Sasaki without his having the benefit of no pressure.

Getting ready for work, so Unvote: Sasaki.

Vote: No lynch

Based on the assumption that there's not going to be a lynch, who is going to investigate whom for the Night Phase?

Are we going to use the structure that was suggested in the previous game, or are we following Sasaki's "three people investigate Secura"? I'll go along with either, but I wouldn't commit to putting all our eggs into one basket; what would we do if three people committed to investigating me overnight and I was night-killed? :/

Probably not needed, but to remind people what a Dethy game is.

- 1 Mafia/Killer
- 1 Detective who gets innocent always.
- 1 Detective who gets guilty always.
- 1 Detective who is correct.
- 1 Detective who is always wrong.

Votes

No Lynch 2 Secura, JohnHughthom

https://img32.imageshack.us/img32/8260/departed.png

As the Members of the State Police gather together to see who the Mole is they are met by Captain Elerby he asks them "Have yous found the mole? Or are you just hanging around in dungerees all day drinking tonic? When you get home give my best regahds to your wives since the only way you will see them again is if you find the mole. So whatcha doing about it?"

They reply "Further investigation is required"

WIth this Elerby seems satisfied and leaves the room leaving the cops to their business to find the mole.

Begin Night One

How about we just go off the sign up list. Everyone investigate the person below them and the bottom person investigate the person at the top of the list.

johnhughthom investigates Methos
Double A investigates johnhughthom
Secura investigates Double A
Sasaki investigates Secura
Methos investigates Sasaki

Let's go with this one.

It's a pity john just showed up with a vote and double a didn't show up at all.

Tomorrow we should announce our results in a particular order. It might be important to make the mafia claim a result before they know what the others got. Let's do it like this:

secura
sasaki
john
methos
double A

Double A is ironically the least suspicious due to not posting at all :beam:

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

It's a pity john just showed up with a vote

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There wasn't much else to be said. :shrug:

I suggest everybody just tells us whether they are in that picture in the write up. I'm not.

That looks like Alec Baldwin in The Departed, though I don't see the character I'm playing as.

I'm playing as an officer who looks like Sean Kingston though, apparantly he's only a minor role. >.<

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Originally Posted by Secura

but I couldn't name the show

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You haven't seen The Departed? Great movie. I expected to hate it, Matt Damon, Leo DiCaprio and Jack Nicholson? I usually hate anything they are in, I was surprised at how much I enjoyed it. If you had have told me before watching The Departed I would feel sad at Leo DiCaprio being killed in a movie I would have laughed at you.

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Originally Posted by johnhughthom

There wasn't much else to be said. :shrug:

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Why does everyone have to be suspicious? The best way to find mafia is by process of elimination, especially in a 5 player game.

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Originally Posted by JohnhughthomK

I suggest everybody just tells us whether they are in that picture in the write up. I'm not.

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Yeah, I'm there. I'm the guy on the left near the front with the coffee mug in front of me.

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That looks like Alec Baldwin, but I couldn't name the show; my character is not there though.

I'm playing as an officer who looks like Sean Kingston though. ¬_¬

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It's from the movie "the departed".

Are you that guy from "cop out"??

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

Yeah, I'm there. I'm the guy on the left near the front with the coffee mug in front of me.

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Are you claiming Matt Damon, who I expect will be the mafia?

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Originally Posted by johnhughthom

Are you claiming Matt Damon, who I expect will be the mafia?

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What do you think?

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Originally Posted by johnhughthom

You haven't seen The Departed? Great movie.

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Yes, I haven't seen it before, although I remember my father saying it was a fantastic film and DiCaprio's best. I realised shortly after my post that the screenshot featured Baldwin and Damon, Wikipedia'd them both and saw The Departed, majorly headdesked.

Having checked the cast list for The Departed, I'm certainly in there, I just don't see him sat at the table in the screenshot. I guess I'm a bit-part character. :3

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Originally Posted by johnhughthom

Are you claiming Matt Damon, who I expect will be the mafia?

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He could be claiming the guy sat to Damon's right, who has a white mug in front of him. :3

I totally didn't see that white mug.

It appears to me Sasaki and Secura are trying to claim the same role.

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Originally Posted by johnhughthom

It appears to me Sasaki and Secura are trying to claim the same role.

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We are?

The character I am has darker skin than that, and doesn't look like the type who wears such formal attire. :3

Actually I think Sasaki is indulging in some WIFOM...

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Originally Posted by johnhughthom

Actually I think Sasaki is indulging in some WIFOM...

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I only do that when I'm mafia.

How I expect the roles would be set:

Sullivan(Matt Damon): Scum - Sasaki?
Costigan(DiCaprio): Paranoid - c'est moi
Brown(Anthony Anderson): Naive - Secura?
Dignam(Wahlberg): Insane
Queenam(Sheen): Normal

Thoughts?

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Originally Posted by johnhughthom

How I expect the roles would be set:

Sullivan(Matt Damon): Scum - Sasaki?
Costigan(DiCaprio): Paranoid - c'est moi
Brown(Anthony Anderson): Naive - Secura?
Dignam(Wahlberg): Insane
Queenam(Sheen): Normal

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That would make sense, but CB already said the roles don't give away your type.

-edit-

No it doesn't look like he has. That's interesting. Just in case, it seems better not to reveal our character until tomorrow or the next day.

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Originally Posted by johnhughthom

How I expect the roles would be set:

Sullivan(Matt Damon): Scum - Sasaki?
Costigan(DiCaprio): Paranoid - c'est moi
Brown(Anthony Anderson): Naive - Secura?
Dignam(Wahlberg): Insane
Queenam(Sheen): Normal

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Sweet child of mine... you figured my role out! o_o

How do you know that my cop's the naive one though and not paranoid, insane or normal? Are the characters like that in the film?

Also, I realise that I have just revealed my role, but considering I've been labelled as the most suspicious one here, it doesn't really matter to me; I'm Officer Brown, and seem to have a snappy taste in leather jackets.

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Are the characters like that in the film?

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Yeah, just going by personalities in the film. It would be nice to hear from the other two players.:juggle2:

However, as I said, it is better not to reveal the character. I don't know if queenan would be normal, but wahlburg would probably be the insane cop. The normal and insane cops are the only ones who can actually get legitimate results. The mafia will try and kill them if they can.

Sorry, I was sick yesterday, and on top of that I didn't know where my Mac was, and my PC has been infected with the XP 2010 security virus (read: a real pain in the :furious3:)

So... who should I investigate? There's like 3 different proposed plans.

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

It might be the best strategy to have 3 people investigate secura tonight, and two people investigate me.

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I suggest we do this, except three investigate Sasaki and two Secura.

johnhughthom, Double A and Secura investigate Sasaki.
Sasaki and Methos investigate Secura.

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

johnhughthom investigates Methos
Double A investigates johnhughthom
Secura investigates Double A
Sasaki investigates Secura
Methos investigates Sasaki

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This is the plan we're going for, Double A. So you'll be investigating JHT and will be investigated by me. :3

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Originally Posted by johnhughthom

I suggest we do this, except three investigate Sasaki and two Secura.

johnhughthom, Double A and Secura investigate Sasaki.
Sasaki and Methos investigate Secura.

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Actually, I'm fine with this; it'll help us figure out who is which kind of detective better. I don't mind three people investigating me if that's what the rest of you want.

No, let's do the first plan. The important thing is for everyone to get results on two different people. Just having a bunch of results on one person doesn't do much.

Secura is obviously mafia, did I mention that? But let's the do this one:

johnhughthom investigates Methos
Double A investigates johnhughthom
Secura investigates Double A
Sasaki investigates Secura
Methos investigates Sasaki

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

Secura is obviously mafia, did I mention that?

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Your insistence upon this is going to make you look extremely foolish when it transpires that it isn't actually true.

All you're doing is increasing the belief that you are possibly the scum yourself. Due to this behaviour, I'm going to follow JHT's plan for the evening and investigate Sasaki. If two others will do this also, we may have a better chance of ascertaining which detective has which personality trait and see if it correlates with what JHT has said.

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

But let's the do this one:

johnhughthom investigates Methos
Double A investigates johnhughthom
Secura investigates Double A
Sasaki investigates Secura
Methos investigates Sasaki

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Ummm, no.

I don't think getting more results says anything in particular. Let's say we get a guilty and an innocent on you. It could be the insane cop and the actual cop that investigated you, or the paranoid and the naive cop. And one of them could be lying.

If someone gets two guilties on different people, they know they are the paranoid cop.
If someone gets an innocent on one person, and a guilty on another, they know they are either insane or normal, and that one of the two is mafia.
If they get two innocents, they only know that they aren't paranoid.

Then we have to figure it out based on eliminating possibilities, depending on which people got investigated twice, and who is still alive. The character speculation and role reveals might be very helpful. But I think someone lying could always make it a 50/50 guess, unless they get stuck somehow.

An innocent person investigated by all four cops will have 2 innocent and two guilty results. A guilty person investigated by all four cops will have 2 innocent and two guilty results. It doesn't give extra information as far as I can tell, and increases the likelihood that one person will be killed and all those investigations lost.

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Originally Posted by johnhughthom

Ummm, no.

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I don't think I have the logic of it wrong. Having extra people investigate the top suspects seems intuitive, that's why I suggested it. But it doesn't seem to actually do anything beneficial.

If we get two guilty results and an innocent result on someone, they are just as likely to be innocent as they are to be guilty.

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If that person is later revealed to be innocent, then we would know that they were investigated by the paranoid cop and the insane cop (who got the guilty results). But we wouldn't necessarily know which was which.

All four of you could investigate me, if you wanted.

Considering Sasaki is the top of my suspicions just as I am his, he can post his results after I post mine (which will be about Sasaki), and then the rest of you can post yours too. If he's lying, which I'm increasingly starting to believe that he will do, then his results will not correlate with the rest of you.

It's up to you guys what you do, but I've requested a Sasaki investigation and I intend to go through with that decision.

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Originally Posted by Secura

All four of you could investigate me, if you wanted.

Considering Sasaki is the top of my suspicions just as I am his, he can post his results after I post mine (which will be about Sasaki), and then the rest of you can post yours too. If he's lying, which I'm increasingly starting to believe that he will do, then his results will not correlate with the rest of you.

It's up to you guys what you do, but I've requested a Sasaki investigation and I intend to go through with that decision.

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But let's say you aren't mafia, and you get killed. Then we have zero investigation results to work with. That's what I find scummy about your "all four of you can investigate me, I don't mind" bit that you keep repeating. Only mafia shouldn't mind--townies should mind, because it would work badly for the town. The only benefit would be that the scummiest person (in my mind) would get killed. That's not a benefit from your perspective as a townie.

johnhughthom investigates Methos
Double A investigates johnhughthom
Secura investigates Sasaki
Sasaki investigates Secura
Methos investigates Double A

The underlined have been sent in.

I won't be here for most of the day tomorrow, so I won't be able to post my results until after I return. I'll be in a place that doesn't have internet access. The image below is of the cave I'll be in. We were there a year or so ago, if I remember right and the pic is from then. I'm not sure when I'll be back, but I'll post my results when I'm able to. I haven't sent my orders in yet, as I'm still waiting for a decision to be made.

http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/1636900...e/100_6395.jpg

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Originally Posted by Secura

Also, I realise that I have just revealed my role, but considering I've been labelled as the most suspicious one here, it doesn't really matter to me; I'm Officer Brown, and seem to have a snappy taste in leather jackets.

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You've revealed nothing and I find it odd that you would claim that you have.

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Originally Posted by Methos

I haven't sent my orders in yet, as I'm still waiting for a decision to be made.

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You're part of that decision making process you know....

Is that you in the photo? Have fun tomorrow, wouldn't catch me doing that.

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Originally Posted by johnhughthom

You're part of that decision making process you know....

Is that you in the photo? Have fun tomorrow, wouldn't catch me doing that.

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Yes, it's me in the photo. At one point there's only 8 to 10 inches of airspace in three feet of water. So yes, I'll have a blast!

From reading the previous game I'd have to agree that each of us investigating a different person and sharing the results in the best method. I'm not sure I agree with the everyone scan two people, or that sasaki and secura are going to scan each other.

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

That's what I find scummy about your "all four of you can investigate me, I don't mind" bit that you keep repeating. Only mafia shouldn't mind--townies should mind, because it would work badly for the town.

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Because I grow tired of these accusations that are complete and utter rubbish. There's only so many times I can say this; my character is a somewhat rotund black guy called Officer Brown. He wears a black leather jacket, a chunky gold ring and is in need of a shave. He resembles, in my opinion, an older Sean Kingston.

I haven't seen The Departed, so I seriously ask; is Brown the bad guy in it? If so, by all means, you can lynch my ass tomorrow if I'm not already dead. If my character is the bad guy, I will vote for myself and get it over with. But this is all hyperbole, because I know I'm innocent from my PM; I am not the mafia.

If I do survive the night, then my lynch won't be based upon who any of the investigations point to or any bovine excrement like that; I'm going to vote for the person I find most scummy, and that would be you, Sasaki. Just as I would expect you to lynch me tomorrow if I survive, considering what you see as overwhelming evidence that I'm scum.

The only difference is, you are 100% incorrect, Sasaki. I have will have a 33% chance of being correct.

There is a 0% chance that I will vote for you tomorrow. I intend to vote no lynch. We are both either 100% correct or 0% correct.

I expect we will have everyone claim their role when the time comes. If CB has not provided a fake claim for the mafioso, we will most likely find him then.

I was speaking from the sense that you seem one hundred percent convinced that I'm the mafia, and don't really seem open to any other avenue. Whereas I suspect you, yes, but it could just as easily be any of the other players.

Having just spoken to another player via PM, I can see that my arguments are becoming increasingly scummy as I lose my cool, so I can understand the suspicion that you or anyone else may have. That's just me playing badly, which isn't going to help town win, so I apologise.

I maintain the fact that I'm Officer Brown, a simple cop, and will do so until I'm lynched or night-killed. If any of you choose to believe that claim, then thank you. If not, that's your choice, I'm not going to argue against it and dig myself an even greater hole.

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Originally Posted by Secura

I was speaking from the sense that you seem one hundred percent convinced that I'm the mafia, and don't really seem open to any other avenue. Whereas I suspect you, yes, but it could just as easily be any of the other players.

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I'm a firm believer in shrodingers cat theory of mafia.

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I maintain the fact that I'm Officer Brown, a simple cop, and will do so until I'm lynched or night-killed. If any of you choose to believe that claim, then thank you. If not, that's your choice, I'm not going to argue against it and dig myself an even greater hole.

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If when we get to day three and claim our roles, and the mafia do not have a fakeclaim, then we will win. Until then claiming a role is not valuable.

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

Methos investigates Double A

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These were my orders.

Night One

Billy Costigan is worried he feels he is a strong target for the rat since he is the only one who has ever seen him (even if only from a distance). As he wanders the police station he comes across something that shocks him on the desk of one of his fellow officers. He sees a note containing the details of Costello's men that has one of the names misspelt it is the very same note that he saw another member of Costello's mob write which means the man whose desk this is on is the mole as he turns to tell it to the world the rat comes behind him and shots him in the head.


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JohnHughthom (Billy Costigan) is dead


Begin Day 2