WWI: Clash of Empires - Discussion thread [Concluded]

The 'World War One' game

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Current title of the game: World War One: Clash of Empires
Possible starting date: 28th June
Playable factions: United Kingdom, France, Russia, Germany, Austria-Hungary, Ottomans, Italy, United States
Period: From the start of 1914 to the end of 1919 ( 4 turns per year = 24 turns )
Theaters of War: Europe, North-America/Atlantic, German East-Africa
Campaign Map: Hex-based map
Co-Hosts: johnhughthom, woad&fangs

More about the game:

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The game is similar to "The Thirty Years War" that I hosted few months ago. Players have the chance to re-battle WWI.
With the new features (tech tree, NPC's, improved economy etc.) and co-hosts I hope this game will better.
There are few blogs about the game but I'll transfer all the information about the game into this thread.
One thing I would like to remind all those who are interested that in this game you don't have to run a country on your own.
Three people(or perhaps more) per faction would be the best solution since that way there will always be someone who could substitute the leader(player who receives my previous turn reports) and send the orders in time.
Also, with co-hosts I hope there wouldn't be any long time pauses between write-ups like there were in TYW.

Questions? Suggestions?

Maps

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European map(changed some borders a bit):

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Austo-Hungarian, Russian and German borders were changed a bit. Kuwait was given to the British.

American/Atlantic map:

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German East-Africa:

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Movement/conquering territories/recruitment work differently in this theater..

Transport zones are marked on the map but railways or "minor" cities are not(yet).

The Sign ups are open!

Currently signed up players:
England
1. Centurion1
2. Cultured Drizzt fan

Ottomans
1. Double A

Italy
1. Chaotix

Russia
1. spl1tper50nal1ty

USA
1. Secura

France
1. slashandburn

Austro-Hungary
1. Prince Cobra

Germany
1. Beefy187

Interested:
Thermal Mercury
Subotan

Give incentives to people to send their orders in early.

Include the commonwealth perhapes.

include me ill make it memorable. if only saxony could have reached her full power...........

i cant even describe how much im anticipating this game. please tell its not in the summer depending on my university choices i may be a bit busy......

Will the players controlling Russia automatically lose in the first turn (January-March?) of 1918? Will the United States be unable to participate until the second turn (April-June?) of 1917?

Or are you playing this as an alternate history, whereby the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk (and perhaps the Communist Revolution that preceded it) might not happen, for example?

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Originally Posted by Subotan

Give incentives to people to send their orders in early.

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I'll think about that.

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Originally Posted by Captain Blackadder

Include the commonwealth perhapes.

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New Zealand, Australia, Canada and South-Africa are part of the game. Not on map but they can support with resources and units.

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Originally Posted by Centurion1

include me ill make it memorable. if only saxony could have reached her full power...........

i cant even describe how much im anticipating this game. please tell its not in the summer depending on my university choices i may be a bit busy......

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My plan was to start this in May. So, this means first years of the game will be played during the summer.

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Originally Posted by Secura

Will the players controlling Russia automatically lose in the first turn (January-March?) of 1918? Will the United States be unable to participate until the second turn (April-June?) of 1917?

Or are you playing this as an alternate history, whereby the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk (and perhaps the Communist Revolution that preceded it) might not happen, for example?

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It's more like alternate history. Historical events might happen if conditions are close enough but I'm not going to force them on players.
It's the players who take decisions and probably rewrite the history.. at least in this game.
So, Russia will not lose in 1918 and US could join the war before 1917.

I'm not sure how my life will be from April onwards.
So I'll just reserve my spot as an audience.

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My plan was to start this in May. So, this means first years of the game will be played during the summer.

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ill make time if i have to ill decline admission to the military academies. you better not disappoint me now, ibn.

Secura, like the last 30yw war game by ibn its a alternate history. for example as saxony i controlled a good chunk of central Europe. I would have had more too.........

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Originally Posted by Ibn-Khaldun

It's more like alternate history. Historical events might happen if conditions are close enough but I'm not going to force them on players.
It's the players who take decisions and probably rewrite the history.. at least in this game.
So, Russia will not lose in 1918 and US could join the war before 1917.

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Excellent; it's war, but without all the socio-political fallout that comes alongside the combat! :D

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Originally Posted by Centurion1

I would have had more too.........

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...if it wasn't for those pesky Brits! xD

HAHAHAHAHA ^ lol no

cdf was the British so of course..........

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Originally Posted by Centurion1

ill make time if i have to ill decline admission to the military academies. you better not disappoint me now, ibn.

Secura, like the last 30yw war game by ibn its a alternate history. for example as saxony i controlled a good chunk of central Europe. I would have had more too.........

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That kind of expansion will be quite difficult because NPC's can fight back in this game. ~;)

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Originally Posted by Ibn-Khaldun

That kind of expansion will be quite difficult because NPC's can fight back in this game. ~;)

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Don't worry. We will find a way :evil:

i just want everyone to know ive started drawing up plans for every country depending on who i choose. so you can all give up now.

I have two co-hosts now.
They are johnhughthom and woad&fangs

~:)

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Originally Posted by Centurion1

ill make time if i have to ill decline admission to the military academies. you better not disappoint me now, ibn.

Secura, like the last 30yw war game by ibn its a alternate history. for example as saxony i controlled a good chunk of central Europe. I would have had more too.........

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And I as the Ottomans was richer than Bill Gates if he exchanged all his money into Euros, and then changed them back into dollars when the dollar was weaker. Speaking of which... wait I don't even need to say who I want to play as, do I?

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Originally Posted by Cultured Drizzt fan

Don't worry. We will find a way :evil:

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We'll throw warhammers at them to soften them up!

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Speaking of which... wait I don't even need to say who I want to play as, do I?

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Montenegro? :shrug:

Yeah, Montenegro...

No, I want some conclusion!

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Announcement:

I'm looking for some people who could make some signatures for this game.
It would be nice to have 1 signature per country plus 1 general signature.
If You have time then your help is welcomed! :bow:

I am totally in this game.

I'll be looking out for the sign up thread and hoping I don't miss it :D

Good to hear.

Also, I plan to show you the European map in this upcoming week.
African and American ones need some more work.

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Originally Posted by Ibn-Khaldun

It would be nice to have 1 signature per country plus 1 general signature.
If You have time then your help is welcomed! :bow:

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I think the British one should be obvious... "BRITONS! IBN WANTS YOU!"

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Originally Posted by Ibn-Khaldun

Good to hear.

Also, I plan to show you the European map in this upcoming week.
African and American ones need some more work.

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Awesome!

I'm antzy with anticipation.

Will there be playable minor factions if you get more sign-ups than intended? If the war goes differently, different nations might come into play.

For instance, perhaps the Zimmermann telegram is never intercepted, and Mexico launches a surprise attack on the U.S. Or, Spain decides to get involved in the war. Or maybe the U.S. joins the Central Powers instead and decides to take Canada.

The Zimmermann telegram...?

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Originally Posted by Double A

The Zimmermann telegram...?

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Ever studied WWI? It was a telegram sent by Germany's foreign secretary, Arthur Zimmermann, to Mexico, negotiating a secret alliance and all of Mexico's old American lands in exchange for them sneak-attacking the U.S. when they joined the Allies. It was intercepted by the British, though, and they publicized it, causing the U.S. to be royally pissed at Germany. It certainly didn't help the Central Powers' chances as they had hoped.

All I know about WWI:

First tanks
Chemical warfare
Trench warfare

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Originally Posted by Chaotix

Will there be playable minor factions if you get more sign-ups than intended? If the war goes differently, different nations might come into play.

For instance, perhaps the Zimmermann telegram is never intercepted, and Mexico launches a surprise attack on the U.S. Or, Spain decides to get involved in the war. Or maybe the U.S. joins the Central Powers instead and decides to take Canada.

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Minor factions will not be available but major factions can influence minor factions to join their alliance.
So, Spain joining the war or US joining the Central powers is quite possible.

About the sign-ups..
I always thought that having at least 3 players per faction would be perfect.
This way you could RP internal politics of a country as well. ~:)

Edit: Double A, did you knew that the first tanks couldn't even cross the trenches? Or that the word "tank" was made up just to keep the true purpose of the vehicle secret? ~;)

And here is the European map:

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Those light blue spots on sea are STZ's(Sea transport zone).
It's possible to move from European map to American using those 3 western most STZ's.
STZ near Portugal allows to move to African theatre.
STZ near Alexandria/Egypt allows moving to the STZ in Red Sea.
Those 4 gray hexes in Egypt is LTZ(Land Transport Zones) and it connects East Africa with Europe.

There are capitals as well.
Suggestions?

I think Spain and Portugal should be countries. That's just a massive blob of land just asking France to be gobbled up.

Also what are the STZs at the Baleares, England/France, between England and Denmark, Malta, Aegean, north Russia, Gotland Persian Gulf, Crimea, island north of England, and the one north of Norway for?

And does the one near Portugal allow movement into NA and African theaters?

And since my understanding of the history of Europe is sketchy at best from Napoleon to WWII, why does England have Malta, Egypt, and Cyprus?

edit: Since Russia is so fecking huge, even bigger than the Ottomans in 30YW, is there some way to counter them having a bajillion gold turn 2 onwards? Like a "remote/backwater hex" penalty (meaning non-coastal non-Nile Africa, Arabia Ottomans don't have, Russian Hinterland, Scandinavia)

All desert/wasteland provinces should have that effect.

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Originally Posted by Ibn-Khaldun

Minor factions will not be available but major factions can influence minor factions to join their alliance.
So, Spain joining the war or US joining the Central powers is quite possible.

About the sign-ups..
I always thought that having at least 3 players per faction would be perfect.
This way you could RP internal politics of a country as well. ~:)

Edit: Double A, did you knew that the first tanks couldn't even cross the trenches? Or that the word "tank" was made up just to keep the true purpose of the vehicle secret? ~;)

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Yes and no - the first tanks were a big hunk of metal that moved at a crawl and had the balance of a Magikarp on a tiperope. But... question mark face?

Chaotix, you and I need to be on the same team, no matter what team it is <3

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Originally Posted by Double A

I think Spain and Portugal should be countries. That's just a massive blob of land just asking France to be gobbled up.

Also what are the STZs at the Baleares, England/France, between England and Denmark, Malta, Aegean, north Russia, Gotland Persian Gulf, Crimea, island north of England, and the one north of Norway for?

And does the one near Portugal allow movement into NA and African theaters?

And since my understanding of the history of Europe is sketchy at best from Napoleon to WWII, why does England have Malta, Egypt, and Cyprus?

edit: Since Russia is so fecking huge, even bigger than the Ottomans in 30YW, is there some way to counter them having a bajillion gold turn 2 onwards? Like a "remote/backwater hex" penalty (meaning non-coastal non-Nile Africa, Arabia Ottomans don't have, Russian Hinterland, Scandinavia)

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1. Unless France wants Spain and Portugal to join Central Powers I advise not to attack them. They are more worth by influencing them to join your side. Country with whom they have the best relationship(NPC and player led country must also be in the same alliance) will be able to control their military.

2. STZ's allow faster traveling to your ships.
So, if Ottomans want to move their fleet from Istanbul to Brest then their orders must be:
(Ottoman fleet starting position is Istanbul STZ B1(upper hex in the center row))
Malta B1 > Baleares A1 > Gibraltar A2 > Brest B2

3. Yes. It allows to move to American and African theaters. So, guard it well. ~;)

4. Since British owned them when the war started?

5. You don't receive tax money from hexes rather from upgrading your infrastructure. So, the amount of hexes means nothing. Having large territory without railroads or cities(there will be more of them not just capitals) makes it harder to reinforce/supply your armies.

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Originally Posted by Double A

And does the one near Portugal allow movement into NA and African theaters?

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I would assume this zone is meant to represent Gibraltar and it's likely a means for British access to the Med. It'll be interesting to see how the British and French players prevent the Germans and such from utilising those Atlantic STZs. :3

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Since Russia is so fecking huge, even bigger than the Ottomans in 30YW, is there some way to counter them having a bajillion gold turn 2 onwards?

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Why would Russia have alot of money? Their economy was mainly agricultural in comparison to the industrialised and increasingly wealthy Germans and Brits. They were decades behind until the Stalin era, really.

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Originally Posted by Secura

I would assume this zone is meant to represent Gibraltar and it's likely a means for British access to the Med. It'll be interesting to see how the British and French players prevent the German submarines from utilising those Atlantic STZs. :3

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I made a small correction. ~;)

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Why would Russia have alot of money? Their economy was mainly agricultural in comparison to the industrialised and increasingly wealthy Germans and Brits. They were decades behind until the Stalin era, really.

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Since this is an alternative reality then Russian players can make wonders with Russia if they don't make the same mistakes as Russians did in WWI. I think another Battle of Tannenberg will not happen in this game.

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Originally Posted by Secura

Why would Russia have alot of money? Their economy was mainly agricultural in comparison to the industrialised and increasingly wealthy Germans and Brits. They were decades behind until the Stalin era, really.

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Because in the previous game in this style, Thirty Years War (Oh God what a game; VIVA LA FRANCE), Russia was absolutely minted, as all Hexes gave the same amount of income.

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Originally Posted by Ibn-Khaldun

Announcement:

I'm looking for some people who could make some signatures for this game.
It would be nice to have 1 signature per country plus 1 general signature.
If You have time then your help is welcomed! :bow:

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Posted General sig in both graphic places on the forum :bow:

I am definitely in this, I like the idea of having 3 to each faction, not only does it help if a player is inactive but it allows for teamwork, each team member can access a different part of the faction: I.e. 1 sorts finance, 2 sorts military, 3 sorts diplomacy & expansion

At least that's how I'd organize it :shifty:

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Originally Posted by Thermal Mercury

Posted General sig in both graphic places on the forum :bow:

I am definitely in this, I like the idea of having 3 to each faction, not only does it help if a player is inactive but it allows for teamwork, each team member can access a different part of the faction: I.e. 1 sorts finance, 2 sorts military, 3 sorts diplomacy & expansion

At least that's how I'd organize it :shifty:

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You got it! ~;)

On a different matter... the recruiting thread can be in the gameroom (for obvious reasons) but I simply can get it why the IH like this one is in the Gamerooom, not in the Chapter House? :wall:

P.S. I read somewhere it was a "gameroom" game... :cough:

P.S. Nothing personal against the gameroom but I find it too vaast...

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Originally Posted by Secura

I would assume this zone is meant to represent Gibraltar and it's likely a means for British access to the Med. It'll be interesting to see how the British and French players prevent the Germans and such from utilising those Atlantic STZs. :3



Why would Russia have alot of money? Their economy was mainly agricultural in comparison to the industrialised and increasingly wealthy Germans and Brits. They were decades behind until the Stalin era, really.

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In 30YW, each hex gave 200 money per turn, so even though the Ottomans in real life were piss poor... poor, I had passed the million mark before anyone else. Or was it 100,000? Anyway, I had a lot of money, when I really shouldn't had.

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Originally Posted by Ibn-Khaldun

1. Unless France wants Spain and Portugal to join Central Powers I advise not to attack them. They are more worth by influencing them to join your side. Country with whom they have the best relationship(NPC and player led country must also be in the same alliance) will be able to control their military.

2. STZ's allow faster traveling to your ships.
So, if Ottomans want to move their fleet from Istanbul to Brest then their orders must be:
(Ottoman fleet starting position is Istanbul STZ B1(upper hex in the center row))
Malta B1 > Baleares A1 > Gibraltar A2 > Brest B2

3. Yes. It allows to move to American and African theaters. So, guard it well. ~;)

4. Since British owned them when the war started?

5. You don't receive tax money from hexes rather from upgrading your infrastructure. So, the amount of hexes means nothing. Having large territory without railroads or cities(there will be more of them not just capitals) makes it harder to reinforce/supply your armies.

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1. Oh I thought the Iberian Penn. was just a big blurb of white for the taking, like most of Russia, N. Africa, and Ireland in 30YW

2. So... they're like Mass Relays? :tongue:

4. I thought France owned Malta and Egypt, and Ottomans owned Cyprus. Wow, I really need to study history from Napoleon to WWI.

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Originally Posted by Thermal Mercury

Posted General sig in both graphic places on the forum :bow:

I am definitely in this, I like the idea of having 3 to each faction, not only does it help if a player is inactive but it allows for teamwork, each team member can access a different part of the faction: I.e. 1 sorts finance, 2 sorts military, 3 sorts diplomacy & expansion

At least that's how I'd organize it :shifty:

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Gah?

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Originally Posted by Prince Cobra

On a different matter... the recruiting thread can be in the gameroom (for obvious reasons) but I simply can get it why the IH like this one is in the Gamerooom, not in the Chapter House? :wall:

P.S. I read somewhere it was a "gameroom" game... :cough:

P.S. Nothing personal against the gameroom but I find it too vaast...

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Because the first one was in the gameroom?

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Originally Posted by Double A

Because the first one was in the gameroom?

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:evilgrin: Which was not quite the place for such a game. Although, the idea to make the discussion and recruitment thread in the gameroom is a very good one.

Well, I hesitate whether to join or not. Austria would need my help (though I see it quite ruined in the eve of WW1) but Real Life needs more attention. So perhaps I should keep my mouth shut. Perhaps ~;)

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Originally Posted by Prince Cobra

On a different matter... the recruiting thread can be in the gameroom (for obvious reasons) but I simply can get it why the IH like this one is in the Gamerooom, not in the Chapter House? :wall:

P.S. I read somewhere it was a "gameroom" game... :cough:

P.S. Nothing personal against the gameroom but I find it too vaast...

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There are several reasons.
First, because the previous game of this type(Thirty Years War) was in Gameroom.
Second, being in Gameroom helps to advertise the game a bit more.
Third, I checked Chapter House and this game looks different than the games played there.

:bow:

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Originally Posted by Ibn-Khaldun

I checked Chapter House and this game looks different than the games played there.

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Sorry for my ignorance but your game simply has a sophisticated military system (that would be adapted to the trench war). I can't see much of a difference. It is also based on history...

Concert of Europe is a quite different beast from the WW1. The diplomacy there is essential, whilst in the WW1 the dimplomatic maneuvres had little place (at least historically). Black and white game: you are either enemy or friend; compromise between the blocks was impossible even when the damages were bigger than the gains... It was basically the failure of the whole model.

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Originally Posted by Prince Cobra

Sorry for my ignorance but your game simply has a sophisticated military system (that would be adapted to the trench war). I can't see much of a difference. It is also based on history...

Concert of Europe is a quite different beast from the WW1. The diplomacy there is essential, whilst in the WW1 the dimplomatic maneuvres had little place (at least historically). Black and white game: you are either enemy or friend; compromise between the blocks was impossible even when the damages were bigger than the gains... It was basically the failure of the whole model.

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Well, though you are mostly right about that black and white game thing there were exceptions(Netherlands comes to my mind).
Also, this game allows ahistorical moves such as Germany and France signing peace separately or Ottomans turning against other Central Powers etc. There will be consequences of course(drop in relations between NPC and player country etc) for such actions.

cdf needs to get back so we can plan on how to conquer all of you ignorant savages again........

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Chaotix, you and I need to be on the same team, no matter what team it is <3

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i sense a betrayal chaotix fear the split.

No betrayal, I love chaotix and think we'd work well together

<3

Thats one jagged love heart split

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No betrayal, I love chaotix and think we'd work well together

<3

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like i said watch him hes a slippery one he is.

So... what happens now?

i win. its predestined surrender your empires to me now and i will allow you to live and entertain me.

would love to be in this looks sweet. Tanks at least at first = 90% mechanical failure. ignore them until very late.

Also, can't we have EUIII/Victoria/Thirty Years War map colours? Pretty please?

How about fortifications?

It's possible to build trenches and forts.

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Originally Posted by Subotan

Also, can't we have EUIII/Victoria/Thirty Years War map colours? Pretty please?

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The only aesthetic change I would suggest is changing France to a dark blue, and perhaps swapping the Austrian and German colors- otherwise it looks all good to me- British Red, Russian Green, and Ottomans can be any hue of red/green really.

France is already dark blue in the new map.

I think Russia should be light blue, and Ottomans should get Russia's color.

I re-did the European map all over when I discovered a site where I can make my own hex-based maps much easier. Also, I think it looks a lot better as well!
What do you think?

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Many things(other cities, railroad, harbours, STZ's etc) are still missing but it's not that hard to add them later.

Very nice!

Hungarian Galicia is wrong though.

https://img197.imageshack.us/img197/...anempire76.png
Notice the "flat" border, with the 90 degree angle with Poland/Russia.

If anyone is wondering what they look side by side, well, just change tabs real quickly.

Map 1

Map 2

Also, why'd you cut off 3ish rows?

No doubt the new map looks better. Great work, Ibn! :2thumbsup:

Also, if I may make a suggestion, it might be a good idea to distinguish territory conquered from territory owned with colored, slanted lines- a la EU3.

I have a friend who is interested in joining. What countries are left?

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Originally Posted by Double A

Also, why'd you cut off 3ish rows?

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Since these places were unimportant during WWI. I doubt they will be ever conquered and the map looks a bit better without this huge N-African part.

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Originally Posted by Chaotix

No doubt the new map looks better. Great work, Ibn! :2thumbsup:

Also, if I may make a suggestion, it might be a good idea to distinguish territory conquered from territory owned with colored, slanted lines- a la EU3.

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I already had something similar in my mind.:bow:

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Originally Posted by Subotan

I have a friend who is interested in joining. What countries are left?

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All of them. Like I have said before you can bring your friends and run the country together. Having about 3 people per nation is near perfect.
I quote TM who expressed my idea very well:

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Originally Posted by Thermal Mercury

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I am definitely in this, I like the idea of having 3 to each faction, not only does it help if a player is inactive but it allows for teamwork, each team member can access a different part of the faction: I.e. 1 sorts finance, 2 sorts military, 3 sorts diplomacy & expansion

At least that's how I'd organize it :shifty:

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I'd have to see how much work running one country would require. Would it be similar to TYW?

Yes it is similar. Only with much more information.

How much more?

In TYW there was no economy but in here you have resources that you need to buid up your army or infrastructure. Also, colonial part was missing from the TYW.

Would Bulgaria be OK for him?

Bulgaria will be NPC. However, if you get them(Bulgaria) to join the war on your side then I will think about it.

The available countries for the players are UK, USA, France, Russia, Germany, Austria-Hungary, Turkey and Italy.

Well, Ottomans didn't have any colonies (I guess you could maybe count the Crimea and N Africa, but not anymore), and the economy is already down the drain, so I probably could handle it by myself... if anyone wants to help, though, you're welcome to try.

So Ibn, when are we going to get a gander and the rest of your glorious map?

ok if we are claiming now ill take UK and along with it i will take along cdf as my co controller.

he always chooses them anyway :wink: plus i dont want to share with anyone else. i tihnk together we can even handle that nation, we work well together and are active on that sort of thing (see tyw group me and him are like 90% of the posts)

this all assuming he comes back in time.

I'm interested most in playing as Italy, but I could go for any other country if necessary.

Since Pizza and me were secretly allied, do I get Switzerland?

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Originally Posted by Centurion1

cdf needs to get back so we can plan on how to conquer all of you ignorant savages again........
i sense a betrayal chaotix fear the split.

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You called?

:beam: Trying to get back, should be able to start being on more frequently starting next week :laugh4: I know how much you all missed me :laugh4:

...... Gonna have to finally put up that last writeup of my mafia game as well...... Better late then never I suppose.


And Cent, You Know I am all over the UK like Milk on Oreo cookies :laugh4:

If you need some one, I could play as Russia. I will send my Bear Cavalry against the Germans.

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If you need some one, I could play as Russia. I will send my Bear Cavalry against the Germans.

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Only if I can send in My Penguin Army.

Cdf. Oh how I have missed you without the game room has lost a bit of its luster I need my companero oh I have much to tell

Since I'll be working during the Saturdays in May(except this one) then I have to move the starting date to the beginning of June. I don't want to start this game while I don't have enough time for it. I apologize for any inconveniences this might cause to possible players.

Dang, I really wanted to play this soon.

How else would I spend all my time on the Internet when no one else is on?

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Originally Posted by Centurion1

Cdf. Oh how I have missed you without the game room has lost a bit of its luster I need my companero oh I have much to tell

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:laugh4:, Yeah, I am pretty awesome like that

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Dang, I really wanted to play this soon.

How else would I spend all my time on the Internet when no one else is on?

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true, but I can stand to wait till June



Personally I am waiting for a game to start its signups, :tongue: