The Catilinian Conspiracy [Concluded]

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The Catilinian Conspiracy


The night is October 20th in the year of the consulship of Marcus Tullius Cicero and Gaius Antonius Hybrida darkness has fallen over the grand city of Rome. Armed Gangs stride around the streets attacking all those who do not support their political objectives. Men are killed for the property that they process and young men with the arrogance of youth attempt to change the system that has ruled Rome for centuries. Some do it because they are bored and wish to lead lives different from their fathers others are heavily in debt and believe a purge of the system would allow them to become wealthy men finally there was Catilina a man of contradiction. At Cicero's house where he is protected by those who think that Catilina is plotting to attack Cicero is woken by the banging on his door. A slave of his walks to the door "Whose there?" he asks. The reply was faint but audible Marcus Crassus. Indeed it is Marcus Crassus the wealthiest man in all of Rome and one of its most powerful citizens even if he holds no official office. Following him are the former Praetor Quintus Arrius as well as Marcellus and Nasica both young men who had recently joined the senate and had being widely thought to be supporters of Catilina. They begin to speak “Trouble is brewing in the province of Etruria.” Cicero interrupts “I have heard the same rumours however I strongly doubt that four men of your standing would come to tell me rumours. What facts do you have in your possession?” Arrius looks around uncomfortably shifting in his seat he was a soldier’s man clearly out of his depth in this political environment. He always added h’s to his vowels because he clearly thought that was the way you sound educated.
“I was in Hetruria up till yesterday. There are a bunch of fighters gathering across the region. I hunderstand that they are planning to hadvance on Rome.”
“How do you know that?”
“I served with several of the ringleaders in the legions. They tried to persuade me to join them, and I let them think that I might- purely to gather hintelligence, you hunderstand,” he added quickly
“How many of these fighters are there?”
“I would say five thousand maybe ten
“As many as that.”
“If there were not that many now, there will be soon enough.”
“Are they armed?”
“Some. Not all. They have a plan though.”
“And what is that?”
“To surprise the garrison at Praeneste, seize the town, fortify it and use it as a base to rally their forces.”
Crassus leans in after listening to the conversation this entire time “Praeneste is almost impregnable and it is only one days march from Rome.”
Cicero leans back in his chair with a wry smile on his face “My, my how well informed you all are”
A flash of anger runs across Crassus’s face. “ We have had our disagreements in the past Consul,” He said coldly “but I’m a loyal citizen, first and last. I don’t want to see a civil war. That is why we are here. Last night we all received letters addressed to us that told us what was about to occur I think you will find them interesting reading.”
Cicero glances down at the letter and reads it

The time for talking is over. The moment has arrived. Catilina has drawn up his plans. He wishes to warn you there will be bloodshed in Rome. Spare yourself and leave the city secretly once it is safe to return you will be contacted.

Cicero eyes widen “Catilina pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo ”

The Next Day

Cicero strides into the Senate and sees Catilina sitting in his normal place in the senate surrounded by his supporters. He strides to his place at the Rostra in the middle of the senate floor. As is customary his is the first to speak.

What are you doing, Catilina ? What are you thinking ? We feel the great
vice and plots of you. O what time! O what manner! The senate understands these,
the consul sees. This man is still living. Living ? He also comes to the senate; he also
dares to do judgment; the eyes are designating our death! And we, good men,
are doing nothing ! The senate and the consul ought to lead you to your death,
Catalina. We have a plan and we ought to do; if we do not do now, we, we, openly
to say, err! Go away now, Catilina, and lead your friends with you.
You cannot remain with us; I shall not tolerate you, and your people,
and your plan.

Catilina stands up at this and begins to clap slowly. “Well done Cicero you chickpea farmer you renter of Rome. My first ancestor was Sergestus, companion of Aeneas, the founder of our city and you dare to ask me to leave. You whose family the grandson of a farmer dare to lecture me on what is noble. I spit at you and your new man ways. If the good people of Rome wish for me to leave so be it. But know this Cicero they all despise you. Look at them they are only using you to protect themselves attempt to destroy me if you wish. Once that is done these good men will want nothing more to do with you by destroying me all you are doing is destroying yourself. Good day men of Rome.” With this Catilina strides out of the Senate hall.
Cicero stands up once more. “Men of Rome we live in difficult times I have being made aware that there are others standing here in this august body that are followers of Catilina they wish to harm the republic. However I myself whilst having suspicions do not know anything for a fact. Thus I turn the preceding’s over to you good men of Rome. I am no dictator like Sulla instead I am a simple man. Thus we shall all decide together who is to be proscribed on this day and who is to be executed. Let us vote and we shall all go down in the great books of history as the men that saved Rome.” A great applause rings throughout the Senate as the Senators prepare to vote on the fate of the republic.

Sign Ups
17/17
Johnhughthom
Beskar
Romanic
Double A
Joooray
Csargo
Saskai
ByzantineKnight
ATPG
TheFlax
DiamondEye
WInstonHughes
GodEmperor
Autolycus
White Eyes
YLC
Secura

Rules
Standard Rules apply
No screenshoting
24 hour phases
Out of thread communication is acceptable all QuickTopics are to be reported to host so that I may take orders from them
Both Cicero and Catiline will be known figures both are unkillable until the men protecting them are killed.


Voting

There are two ways that you can vote at anytime

The first is

Vote Exilium This exiles the person chosen by the senate they may no longer be helped by any roman citizen. They can be given no shelter nor no food. At any time this may be reversed with Vote Recall

The Second is

Vote Tullianum. This takes the person voted and throws them into the Mamertine Prison where they are to be killed.

Why, yes please my good sir.

This looks interesting. I will join if you let me. :yes:

Beskar and JHT playing in the same game, that should be interesting. ~:argue:

Hi'm hin.

I'd be interested to play as well. :bow:

If you are planning on starting this anytime soon, you might want to move it (or make it move) to the main Gameroom forum, because I think few people even take notice of this over here. And it's not like there is a lot of competition for this game at the moment.

I think there's a few in front of Capt B in the queue Joooray, I agree though that once it moves to the Gameroom interest should pick up. Looking forward to this one.

Well ATPG and DIY are both ahead of me in the line so there is a little while to go untill this game will start.

I will join to support this game.

I think it is a shame you didn't get enough people for the Time Travelers game, so I'm reporting for duty friend.

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Well ATPG and DIY are both ahead of me in the line so there is a little while to go untill this game will start.

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Sorry, didn't look at the queue. Though I was wondering who will fill the spot left by the cancellation of Yasei's game. After all there is no game running at the moment.

GH is next in line, but I'm not sure he is ready to go yet, neither do I know it about DIY and Atpg. I just feel like, the longer there is no big game, or even small game for that matter, people will loose interest in the Gameroom and we might loose even more player or at least have a difficult time to get them all back.

But that's not for me to decide, because the GMs will have to do the work and I can't make them start earlier, nor do I want to. But it's just something to consider.

There is the large Inavi game running at the moment, and a paused small game and a running small game (Parasite). Death is Yonder is in front of me, and I am ready to go for the small game.

GH's game I'm sure will open soon enough. And if you're feeling a lack of games, try the Mafia section at TWC, there are 3 games in sign ups and badly needing replacement players in the Zelda game.

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

There is the large Inavi game running at the moment, and a paused small game and a running small game (Parasite). Death is Yonder is in front of me, and I am ready to go for the small game.

GH's game I'm sure will open soon enough. And if you're feeling a lack of games, try the Mafia section at TWC, there are 3 games in sign ups and badly needing replacement players in the Zelda game.

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True, I totally forgot about Inavi, since I was killed in the first night phase and was not allowed to post thereafter, I haven't been following that game. And you are correct about Parasite of course as well. Sorry. :sweatdrop:

I have joined a game over at TWC, but they don't seem to be able to fill there games any better than over here.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to GH's game a lot and didn't want to sound to complainy, it just felt like the Gameroom has fallen kinda dormant at the moment.

Also I will stop spamming this thread now. Sorry. :shame:

Edit: Also, I just realized this is a small game, I don't know why I thought it was a big game. Man, I'm a bit confused. :shame:

I'll play

I did not think this game was waiting for another before it could start. How is it possible? There's only one small game running, and it's Beskar's Parasite, which is on hold. If there's games before this one, where are they? I want to signup. :grin:

In.

The other games should start their thread or get jumped.

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Well ATPG and DIY are both ahead of me in the line so there is a little while to go untill this game will start.

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In.

The other games should start their thread or get jumped.

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Technically speaking, I applied for the 3rd slot in October (roughly 16th Oct onward I guess), as from this period till then, I am busy with exams etc. I will be totally unable to host a game until then. :bow:

It appears I have not noticed the revamped small game queue which has switched out from a month by month basis to a priority/queue.

well if signups are still open...

In!!

Only 8 more people required

I'm in.

In.

Oh, and I think Carthage should be destroyed.

My net access may continue, so keep me in this one until further notice.

I'm dropping from basically everything else. Still need to get life sorted.

Support the gameroom, join this game.

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Support the gameroom, join this game.

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No sooner said than done. I'm in.

IN =)

I can't miss games with Atpg In them.

I am up for this:bow: IN

Just a couple more. :bounce:

Writing the Role PM's now halfway there only two more places avalible.

In!

I'll fill the last spot, then.

Let the Games begin this round will be a little longer as sending out the Pms took longer than expected.

For everyones information

Cicero is Csargo

Catiline is Saskai

Enjoy

Is simply Tullianum: Sasaki too simple to work?

Tullianum: Double A

No lurker policy! Who's interested to sign it?

Double A will be lurking, he's way too busy playing Civilizations V, and he dropped from games on TWC because of it. Is there a better time to lynch a lurker than day 1?

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Originally Posted by Diamondeye

Is simply Tullianum: Sasaki too simple to work?

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*sigh* and here I was going to post "*insert obligatory Vote: Sasaki here*"

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Originally Posted by Romanic

Double A will be lurking

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Double A probably won't be playing mafia at all, expressing such a sentiment in the Zelda and Parasite games; your vote is for someone who will be inactive and essentially WOG'd rather than a lurker... this strikes me as something that you would know, yet you label him as a lurker.

Trying to appeal to everyone else to follow suit with your "anti-lurker crusade", particularly at such an early stage when 'no lynch' is usually more favourable and when we have a roster of generally active players in the game, makes me further question the motive behind your vote.

Tullianum: Romanic

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Originally Posted by Secura

Double A probably won't be playing mafia at all, expressing such a sentiment in the Zelda and Parasite games; your vote is for someone who will be inactive and essentially WOG'd rather than a lurker... this strikes me as something that you would know, yet you label him as a lurker.

Trying to appeal to everyone else to follow suit with your "anti-lurker crusade", particularly at such an early stage when 'no lynch' is usually more favourable and when we have a roster of generally active players in the game, makes me further question the motive behind your vote.

Tullianum: Romanic

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I have not seen any rule about WOGs, and Double A as a lurker or inactive means the same thing: He will be useless. Day 1 is a good day to lynch a lurker, proposing the same thing on Day 3 would be foolish as we will have more information to work with.

Considering how you recently spoke about inactive players, and games you've played having many of them, I'm surprised you are taking this easy route to lynch me for this idea.

Why are we voting for Tullianm instead of Exilium? I'd think it'd make more sense to exile those we suspect first - no need to kill those who may be innocent of sedition.

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Originally Posted by YLC

Why are we voting for Tullianm instead of Exilium? I'd think it'd make more sense to exile those we suspect first - no need to kill those who may be innocent of sedition.

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I agree... mostly. Double A should be lynched outright, but the other votes should be exile votes until we know more, specially Secura's vote :wiseguy:

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Originally Posted by Romanic

I agree... mostly. Double A should be lynched outright, but the other votes should be exile votes until we know more, specially Secura's vote :wiseguy:

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We could always wait to see if Double A is going to at least show up, the game hasn't been up for that long...

I agree with YLC... We should vote to exile to be safe...

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Originally Posted by ByzantineKnight

We could always wait to see if Double A is going to at least show up, the game hasn't been up for that long...

I agree with YLC... We should vote to exile to be safe...

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You could also start by voting someone else than Sasaki or Csargo, lynching them will have no effect:

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Originally Posted by Captain Blackadder

Both Cicero and Catiline will be known figures both are unkillable until the men protecting them are killed.

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I would like to hear from Cicero and Catalina before I decide anything.

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Originally Posted by Romanic

I have not seen any rule about WOGs

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WOGs are part-and-parcel of mafia, no host is going to leave a player inactive for the course of the game, either seeking replacement or just cracking the WOG... it doesn't need to be written down for a host to do it, it's usually a given.

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Double A as a lurker or inactive means the same thing: he will be useless.

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I can actually agree on this, but now that I think about it more, a replacement at this stage would probably be a better idea, t'isn't denying the town a vote just because someone's not playing.

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Considering how you recently spoke about inactive players

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Inactive players frustrate me to no end, you're right... I just don't see the point in using a lynch on one.

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I'm surprised you are taking this easy route to lynch me for this idea.

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It simply seemed a little off to me that someone would make such a suggestion at this stage of the game; as for my... sharp response to your vote, well I'm sick of being the player who has a bark worse than a bite and is seen as perhaps a bit of a pushover, so thought I'd press a little more.

I wasn't even going to sign up for any more games after Parasite/Inavi, which were meant to be my last, but someone twisted my arm so I stuck around a little longer; thought I may as well try a different approach to playing the game.

unTullianm, anyway.

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Originally Posted by Romanic

You could also start by voting someone else than Sasaki or Csargo, lynching them will have no effect:

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I'm not voting anyone unless my comment at the beginning counts.

*insert obligatory Unvote: Sasaki*

Exilium: Double A

Although we lack a lead, we have a possibility, and I'd like to lead by example.

I don't think lynching Double A at this point is a good idea.

Tullianum: DE

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Originally Posted by Secura

It simply seemed a little off to me that someone would make such a suggestion at this stage of the game; as for my... sharp response to your vote, well I'm sick of being the player who has a bark worse than a bite and is seen as perhaps a bit of a pushover, so thought I'd press a little more.

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:laugh4: "a bark worse than a bite" - I can't figure what you mean by that. In real life I would think it means someone who makes a lot of noise but never acts, make threats but never follow through. But what does it means in a mafia game context?

You're a good player, you often read situations correctly and you vote accordingly. You're a dangerous townie when you're active enough, what's lacking in your bark?

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Originally Posted by Secura

I wasn't even going to sign up for any more games after Parasite/Inavi, which were meant to be my last, but someone twisted my arm so I stuck around a little longer; thought I may as well try a different approach to playing the game.

unTullianm, anyway.

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I'm glad this someone twisted your arm then, because I like to play with you. Don't stop! :beam:

And thanks for unTullianming unvoting me. :sweatdrop:

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Originally Posted by ByzantineKnight

*insert obligatory Unvote: Sasaki*

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What's up with the "insert obligatory" part of your vote?

Welcome back to mafia btw.

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Originally Posted by YLC

Exilium: Double A

Although we lack a lead, we have a possibility, and I'd like to lead by example.

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unTullianm; Exilium: Double A

I can live with that.... I think, although it's not clear what happens to exiled players. They are still in the game, but are they counted as remaining townies for winning conditions? What can they do? etc.. The rules says:

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Originally Posted by Captain Blackadder

Vote Exilium This exiles the person chosen by the senate they may no longer be helped by any roman citizen. They can be given no shelter nor no food. At any time this may be reversed with Vote Recall

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"they may no longer be helped by any roman citizen" .... :inquisitive: ?
"No shelter, no food" also, meaning what?

Edit: actually: "no shelter, no food" may mean they do not count toward victory condition, since they are not living in Rome anymore.

I can't say I fully understand the concept either. Can we Recall someone and still exile/lynch someone in the same phase?

Unvote: Sasaki, Exile: Csargo
I don't understand your vote on me. Why tullanium on day one?

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Originally Posted by Diamondeye

Unvote: Sasaki, Exile: Csargo
I don't understand your vote on me. Why tullanium on day one?

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I don't see the point of exiling anyone.

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Originally Posted by Diamondeye

Unvote: Sasaki, Exile: Csargo
I don't understand your vote on me. Why tullanium on day one?

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OMGUS round one:

Tullanium: Diamondeye

No offense.


Also, new signature line!

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Originally Posted by Romanic

What's up with the "insert obligatory" part of your vote?

Welcome back to mafia btw.

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The "insert obligatory" is in reference to the tradition of starting every mafia game with a Vote: Sasaki

and thank you sir :bow:

So Exilium is basically a vote but it can be undone by allowing them to return to Rome? If that is the case I don't think that we should use any other method...

Is it just me? or does DE seem too scummy or just plain crazy?(I recall him saying he was mafia once for no reason other then attention):laugh4:

Something about his comment stikes me as odd and forced.:inquisitive:

I am willing to see what exilement does Vote Exilium:DE

That just sent me three messages to my inbox.

The Matrix has spoken. It's deja vu, therefore White_Eyes is actually an Agent.

However, as Neo, I don't fear you White_eyes. You get a pass because you have been absent for a while.


Cue accusing me...... now.

Well...

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Cue accusing me...... now.

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Accusing ATPG=White_eyes:D lynch 99.9% of the time.:rolleyes:

It's sad that I was right about it just as much too...:shame:

I want to see what exilement does...your one game where we had ninja duels got us all killed too fast:sweatdrop:(I still say it was worth it though:grin2:)

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Originally Posted by White_eyes:D

Accusing ATPG=White_eyes:D lynch 99.9% of the time.:rolleyes:

It's sad that I was right about it just as much too...:shame:

I want to see what exilement does...your one game where we had ninja duels got us all killed too fast:sweatdrop:(I still say it was worth it though:grin2:)

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So do I. Khaan as a ninja was too awesome to be contained within my head, so it exploded and I had to buy a new one at Sears. Halloween special, I am now orange in color and have crooked teeth and a candle for a brain.

....Now I know I am not being taken seriously:wacko:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

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Originally Posted by Captain Blackadder

Cicero is Csargo

Catiline is Saskai

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LOL. Csargo versus Sasaki, the re-match.

I'm trying to persuade johnhughthom to play in my mini-mafia game on the .net. Maybe eliminating him in this game will increase the likelihood of him agreeing :).
Exilium:johnhughtom

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Originally Posted by Romanic

But what does it means in a mafia game context?

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Look back at the Parasite game; how many people did I threaten to shoot outright because of their scummy behaviour? There was God Emperor, Pizza, you, Arpeg, Death is Yonder... but how many kills did I actually get?

I think it was zero... all talk and no action, which is a somewhat recurring theme for me in mafia. >.<

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I'm glad this someone twisted your arm then, because I like to play with you.

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T'is just this one game and autolycus' at TWC, that's all. :3

Are there role reveals upon death?

Exilium: Byzantineknight

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Originally Posted by God Emperor

Are there role reveals upon death?

Exilium: Byzantineknight

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Exile is not death my dear Armored Eastern Roman.

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I can't say I fully understand the concept either. Can we Recall someone and still exile/lynch someone in the same phase?

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You can Recall and exile in the same day phase.

Why is everyone being so bloodthirsty?:help:

I guess my first townie game for as long as I can recall is a good game to die on day 1 in. Do we have a :cigar: smilie on this forum?

I was hoping for a more enlightened approach to day one. Either some people are significantly more informed about what Exilium does, or they are more informed of DE's status - it still gives us information though.

(First off, apologies for not posting earlier, due to a full inbox I did not receive my role until today and I prefer to know what my role is before getting into the game)

I think day 1 is the perfect time to find out was Exilium does, since its the day where we have the lowest odds of finding scum.

I'd rather pick someone else, but Exilium: Double A since he's the one most voted for exile.

One thing I've noticed in games where you can vote for different effects to happen to someone, is that the person who to most people want voted off might slip away if they divide their voting between two different "methods", suddenly putting a second candidate in the lead with a few votes. We'll have to watch out for that.

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Originally Posted by God Emperor

Exilium: Byzantineknight

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okay... O.o

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Voting

There are two ways that you can vote at anytime

The first is

Vote Exilium This exiles the person chosen by the senate they may no longer be helped by any roman citizen. They can be given no shelter nor no food. At any time this may be reversed with Vote Recall

The Second is

Vote Tullianum. This takes the person voted and throws them into the Mamertine Prison where they are to be killed.

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I think until we are certain about someone being scummy we should just exile them... that way we can always vote to recall (at any time apparently) so it is much safer for us... But I would still like to know what the specific in-game effects of exile are

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Originally Posted by ByzantineKnight

I think until we are certain about someone being scummy we should just exile them... that way we can always vote to recall (at any time apparently) so it is much safer for us... But I would still like to know what the specific in-game effects of exile are

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They return from Gaul with three veteran legions and take on the Senate, who are unprepared and not enough time to levy troops.

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Originally Posted by Beskar

They return from Gaul with three veteran legions and take on the Senate, who are unprepared and not enough time to levy troops.

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:laugh4:

Well if thats the case, throw them to the lions!! :leo:

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Originally Posted by johnhughthom

I would like to hear from Cicero and Catalina before I decide anything.

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Not voting for me, eh? :inquisitive:

Exilium: johnhughthom

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okay... O.o



I think until we are certain about someone being scummy we should just exile them... that way we can always vote to recall (at any time apparently) so it is much safer for us... But I would still like to know what the specific in-game effects of exile are

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They are simply temporarly out of the game. They do not count towards anyones victory conditions but be warned some people will not be happy to be exiled and let's just say something interesting could happen if you exile certain people.

The Round is over prepare for write up

Exilium

YLC
Romanic
DiamondEye
White Eyes
autoclyus
God Emperor
TheFlax
Winston Hughes

Tullianum
Csargo
ATPG

Person to be Exiled

Csargo, DiamondEye
Double A Romanic, YLC, The Flax
Romanic, Secura
DiamondEyes Csargo, ATPG, White Eyes
Johnhughthom, Autolycus, Winston Hughes
Byzantine Knight, God Emperor

As the sun falls over the Senate House the debate rages on Cicero gets up on the Rostra and is given the floor.

Hail to thee Good Romans one and all have we reached a decision as to what we shall do to the person we decide to take action on this fine day?

Exile roars back the Senate with only a few voices dissenting amongst the crowd. But these people are shouted down by the rest of the Senate implying that they are too blood thirsty and are giving into emotions and that true Romans hide their feelings. They also imply that the people dissenting are Greek lovers and thus unworthy Romans.

Cicero continues

It is indeed good that the Senate is decisive for it is that form of action that is required in these the darkest of all times. This the time that all good Romans fear not of the actions of barbarians outside of Rome but of the enemies within our gates. These men who sit amongst us plotting will be scared by this decisive action. Has the Senate decided who is to be exiled on this day?

With this a great roar erupts in the Senate with many people pointing out that a certain Senator has yet to arrive and thus it is clear that he is the guilty one for what does a good roman have to fear. Why would he not be brave enough to have input on this day? However a second great roar erupts for the person who voted that Cicero be exiled. They say it is clear he is a creature of Catiline for who would vote against the man who alerted this great Hall to the threat that lies within our walls. Plus they say how could he be a Senator when he does not even know that Cicero as standing Consul has Imperium and is thus beyond the reach of the Senate in voting for these matters.

The argument continues and it soon becomes clear that there will be no clear winner. The sun sets and Cicero gets up one more time

With the setting of the Sun I call this meeting of the Senate to an end with no clear decision reached amongst our fellow Senators there can only be one course of action no one shall be exiled today for I will not ruin someones life taking all that they own on the bases of a divided Senate I thank you all

Begin Night 1

Well, that was useful - anyone else want explain the lack of a decisive vote?

Perhaps it takes a clear majority for an action to succeed.

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Originally Posted by YLC

Well, that was useful - anyone else want explain the lack of a decisive vote?

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why we didn't have a decisive vote? or why the votes didn't count?

The tally should have been:

3 Exile Double A (Romanic, theFlax, YLC)
2 Tull Diamondeye (ATPG, Csargo)
2 Exile johnhughthom (Autolycus, Winston)
1 Exile Csargo (Diamondeye)
1 Exile ByzantineKnight (Gold Emperor)
1 Exile Diamondeye (White_eyes:D)

So normally Double A should have been exiled, however it seems that, unlike other games with different lynch methods, our votes comes in 2 independent parts, meaning the "how" and the "who" are not linked together, they are 2 different tallies:`

"How" tally
8 Exilium (Auto, DE, GE, Romanic, Flax, WE. Winston, YLC)
2 Tullianum (ATPG, Csargo)

"Who" tally
3 Double A (Romanic, theFlax, YLC)
3 Diamondeye (ATPG, Csargo, White_eyes:D)
2 johnhughthom (Autolycus, Winston)
1 Csargo (Diamondeye)
1 ByzantineKnight (Gold Emperor)

Double A and Diamondeye are tied in the lead, there's no clear winner, thus a no-lynch. That's how I figure it works, from how the writeup was written.

Sorry, I missed the first phase. As I mentioned elsewhere, I was away for the weekend.

Oh, to hell with Civ V. ATPG's announcement made me realize how much I love mafia... I'll be fine as long as I don't overextend myself like the last 20 times.

Well, I'm glad you all didn't come to a decision regarding who to exile. Uhm... so... hi. Again.

good to have you with us :)

Romanic's theory sounds right... so that means we just lost our first lynch/exile?