It's a surprise mafia [Concluded]

I'm up next, and I don't even have a game concept yet.

I won't throw anything too bizarre at you, because I know you guys need a break from weirdness after Revengening.

Sign-up for the surprise!

Sign-ups: 17/17

Seon
GeneralHankerchief
TheLastDays
Renata
Diamondeye
Populus Romanus
ArpeggiateTHIS
Secura
Believer
Romanic
issaikhaan
Major Robert Dump
Robbiecon
Ibn-Khaldun
Captain Blackadder
Classical_hero
Mr Stuka

Chaotix (Reserve)
Johnhughthom (Reserve)
Nightbringer (Reserve)
Warman (Reserve)
B_Ray (Reserve)

Innate.

All right, here's hoping it's not too complicated. In.


Askthepizzaguy rules!

In Don't make me neutral...

Yup.

For sure.

:yes:

i like the bizarreness, nevertheless im in.

Unfortunately, I didn't get to sign up to Revengening, so you can certainly count me in here. :3

Ayuh.

Will this bring me candy?

Sign me up, it's not every day you have the opportunity to play a game with GH. :beam:

I remember my last game with him, a Bridge Zhou Far, when we elected him leader, and he was doing such a crappy job! fun fun fun!

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

And he was anti Town! :grin:

Also, Pizza, don't think for one minute that hosting another game gets you out of Secret Option Bravo.

-edit- Wow Romanic, that was the last game you played with me? I forgot how rarely I actually play these things now. :laugh4:


Askthepizzaguy rules!

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Also, Pizza, don't think for one minute that hosting another game gets you out of Secret Option Bravo.

-edit- Wow Romanic, that was the last game you played with me? I forgot how rarely I actually play these things now. :laugh4:

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You've been a naughty GH, hiding away from the games. Don't you realize these young whippersnappers need to be taught how to be truly scummy? Only you can teach them.

Would join, but I'll be away, so I can't. Good luck to you all.

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

You've been a naughty GH, hiding away from the games. Don't you realize these young whippersnappers need to be taught how to be truly scummy? Only you can teach them.

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:cry:


:charge:

(aka in)

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Also, Pizza, don't think for one minute that hosting another game gets you out of Secret Option Bravo.

-edit- Wow Romanic, that was the last game you played with me? I forgot how rarely I actually play these things now. :laugh4:

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Yeah. You played in The Mafia Comeback and Copa Clash recently but I wasn't part of these games. Before that, you took a break of almost a year. We missed you. :bigcry:

Edit: Also, "Secret Option Bravo" ??? :shocked:

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Originally Posted by Romanic

Edit: Also, "Secret Option Bravo" ??? :shocked:

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I got a taste of power being a Content Manager, and I liked it. Now, Admiral GeneralHankerchief and I are going to be launching a pirate ship filled with the yarringest pirates of all time toward the Total War Center. We shall take their doubloons, harpoons, and pantaloons. We shall hoist out flag proudly over their barely-floating hull. We will dock in their harbor and drink all their ale!

But it wouldn't be a very good secret operation if I told you all about it, so I'm afraid me lips are sealed. Yarrr.

The town needs a good first lynch and I am stuck in Kabul for another month, so I will volunteer. BTW in the few mafia games I have played I have an uncanny knack of vigging/voting one of my teammates on round 1.

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Originally Posted by Romanic

Sign me up, it's not every day you have the opportunity to play a game with GH. :beam:

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Just noticed in the Gameroom Statistics that we both have a winning streak we need to keep going. Let's hope the surprise isn't too mortifying :curtain:

Surprise! In

In!

In if there is room for me.

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Originally Posted by Diamondeye

Just noticed in the Gameroom Statistics that we both have a winning streak we need to keep going. Let's hope the surprise isn't too mortifying :curtain:

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Shhh, you'll jinx it.

Reserve in case you don't get a full 17.

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Originally Posted by Romanic

Shhh, you'll jinx it.

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"Look at the bright side, at least it can't get any worse!"

There :curtain:

Surprising.

IN!

Okay, sign ups are closed.

Give me a day or so to design the game and send out role PMs.

Now that the quarter is over i should have time to play some more of these. If you need a replacement just throw me a pm ATPG.

Can I be a reserve?

Okay.

I have a game design thrown together, and it should be interesting. I have no idea how this is going to go, but, I do believe all sides are balanced. It's not a fancy or complicated game, but, it's not just a standard town versus mafia setup.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

• Town (versus) Cult (versus) Cult.
• If the Cult Leaders are destroyed, cultists revert to their original alignment.
• Regular townies can win with either cult.
• Town will have incorruptible members who cannot be converted, their goal is town victory only.
• Cult leaders cannot be corrupted, their alignment will always remain the same.
• Cultists can be re-converted to a different alignment.
• It will not be known to the converter whether or not conversion was successful.
• Failed conversion does not reveal who tried to convert you.
• Every round, someone will be lynched.
• No Lynch is not an option.
• Abstain votes are legal as long as there is at least one person voting to lynch.
• Quoting/copying/pasting your role PM is not allowed.
  
• Revealing who you are and what your goals are, publicly, or privately, is legal. It may not be wise, but it's legal.
• Cult leaders will be granted cover roles. Mass reveals will not solve the game.
• Alignment will NOT be revealed upon death. :evil:
• Dead players cannot vote or perform any actions.
• Dead players may not reveal their alignment or previous actions.
• There may be other roles in the game besides basic townies and cult leaders.

Voting procedure:

Vote: Abstain
is legal when someone else has voted to lynch a player.

Vote: Player
is considered a legal vote.

Unvote.
is considered a legal way to change your vote to an abstain. This will not be counted if everyone else has abstained.

Unvote, vote: Player
is considered a legal way to switch votes.




Endgame:

• When all players who can be converted have been converted at least once, the remaining Cult Leaders can choose to murder instead of converting someone.
• They can convert instead of murdering as well.
• This will continue until all Cult Leaders have been destroyed, or only one Cult remains, with enough votes to win outright.

Okay, that's the setup. Comments? If you guys think this one will be lame, I'll scrap the idea and we'll do a basic vanilla GH-style game.

Awesome. Cult leader please :curtain:

That looks fine to me. Give me something cool. :)

So the town wins when both cult leaders are destroyed?

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Originally Posted by TheLastDays

So the town wins when both cult leaders are destroyed?

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Yes, the town will win when all the cult leaders are gone.

Simple enough for me. :yes:


Askthepizzaguy rules!

Just a preliminary note to say I'll be inactive for the larger part of the weekend (working off GMT time), I can make anything on Friday morning and then Sunday night, but nothing inbetween.

That is all.

Heh. Completely loony-tunes.

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It will not be known to the converter whether or not conversion was successful.
Failed conversion does not reveal who tried to convert you.

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But a successful conversion does reveal that? Doesn't make sense with the other rules, but that's what's implied.

Well someone's gotta know when a conversion is succesful and the converted must know who his boss is, right?...

although that's weird... because if getting converted again he'll know who his boss was ^^ and it'll be pretty easy for him to kill him off

That's what I mean. Both by its not making sense with the other rules, and by the setup being loony-tunes.

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Originally Posted by Renata

But a successful conversion does reveal that? Doesn't make sense with the other rules, but that's what's implied.

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No, conversion or failed conversion both do not reveal who the boss is.

The boss can send instructions along with the conversion message, anonymously, through me. After that, they'll have to contact the convert themselves for further instructions, which as the rules imply, is risky.

That actually does allow a successful recruit to identify themselves as having been recruited, if you think about it.

So success or failure of conversion only depends on whether the one to be converted is a convertible towny or not?
Also, just to be clear, the cult bosses will never know if any of their recruitables has been reconverted to the other cult?
Will they get the anonymous conversion message if conversion was not succesful?
And how will the cult bosses know when every recruitable person has been recruited at least once?

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Originally Posted by Renata

That actually does allow a successful recruit to identify themselves as having been recruited, if you think about it.

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Yes, and it also allows an unsuccessful recruit to identify themselves as having been recruited. :evil:

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Originally Posted by TheLastDays

So success or failure of conversion only depends on whether the one to be converted is a convertible towny or not?

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Success is automatic if the target is convertible.

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Also, just to be clear, the cult bosses will never know if any of their recruitables has been reconverted to the other cult?

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True dat.

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Will they get the anonymous conversion message if conversion was not succesful?

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Yes. :evil:

In other words, Cult Leaders may try to recruit people, but they will never know for sure if they've been converted and are trustworthy.

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And how will the cult bosses know when every recruitable person has been recruited at least once?

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Because I will know, and I'll tell them.

Oh, ok -- the previous comment implied only successful recruits would get the message; now I see.

You can add me as a reserve. I regret not signing up for this. :poutyface:

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Originally Posted by B_Ray

You can add me as a reserve. I regret not signing up for this. :poutyface:

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They always do. :beam:

Jeepers, guys, where are all you people when I need a large game to fill up and then have reserves? It's like pulling teeth; a small game rolls around and all of a sudden I have 25 people falling into my lap.

I didn't even plan or advertise this game!!! :mad:

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

They always do. :beam:

Jeepers, guys, where are all you people when I need a large game to fill up and then have reserves? It's like pulling teeth; a small game rolls around and all of a sudden I have 25 people falling into my lap.

I didn't even plan or advertise this game!!! :mad:

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And 35 at CFC. That other game you hadn't even designed yet, but still got loads of people to sign up for. I hate you. :clown:

I really regret not having a game idea already designed for that one. It seems I have actually gone through my massive list of game ideas from like 2 years ago and gotten them all done or scrapped the bad ones at last.

I bet if I had something awesome planned, advertised, and invited people, I could push 50 participants over there.

Looks good, sort of like a mini-CoV III.

(Because the first thing that pops into my head is always how I can selfishly relate things to my own games :clown:)

I'm around if you need a replacement. Somehow I think I am not a living player in a single running mafia game right now.

EDIT: Forgot KnightTime. Always forget KnightTime.

Ok, I'll try to launch this one after my closing shift tonight.

Fingers crossed it doesn't suck! :laugh4:

In the beginning....



There was a continent surrounded by a nameless sea. The people of this land existed for countless generations, and they were nothing more than a bunch of disorganized tribes constantly warring with one another over territory. The cheese-lovers would be constantly squabbling with the wheat farmers, and the tomato growers would complain that their land would be trampled on by the pig farmers. After several long and bloody wars, the land had been torn apart. None of the tribes could make enough food to feed themselves, so they were forced to rely on trade... and they soon found that the separate foods they all enjoyed actually tasted quite good when mixed together and baked in an oven.

And so, a new religion formed... and it spread throughout the separate tribes.... and they soon formed the Order of the Pizza-Eaters. With their new way of thinking, and their cooperative, egalitarian philosophy, pizza reigned supreme over the land.

Get it? :eyebrows:



But something strange is happening in the Crusty Plains. Some of the common folk are insisting that Pizza is an impure food, and that there is a much better food that should be eaten. The Order of the Pizza Eaters has dispatched someone to investigate the heretics and put a stop to them.... but it might already be too late. A rival religion, whose teachings defy the Order, can only mean one thing: a holy war is about to begin.

Who would prevail?

We shall soon find out.












RULES:

• Town (versus) Cult (versus) Cult.
• If the Cult Leaders are destroyed, cultists revert to their original alignment.
• Regular townies can win with either cult.
• Town will have incorruptible members who cannot be converted, their goal is town victory only.
• Cult leaders cannot be corrupted, their alignment will always remain the same.
• Cultists can be re-converted to a different alignment.
• It will not be known to the converter whether or not conversion was successful.
• Failed conversion does not reveal who tried to convert you.
• Every round, someone will be lynched.
• No Lynch is not an option.
• Abstain votes are legal as long as there is at least one person voting to lynch.
• Quoting/copying/pasting your role PM is not allowed.
  
• Revealing who you are and what your goals are, publicly, or privately, is legal. It may not be wise, but it's legal.
• Cult leaders will be granted cover roles. Mass reveals will not solve the game.
• Alignment will NOT be revealed upon death. :evil:
• Dead players cannot vote or perform any actions.
• Dead players may not reveal their alignment or previous actions.
• There may be other roles in the game besides basic townies and cult leaders.

Voting procedure:

Vote: Abstain
is legal when someone else has voted to lynch a player.

Vote: Player
is considered a legal vote.

Unvote.
is considered a legal way to change your vote to an abstain. This will not be counted if everyone else has abstained.

Unvote, vote: Player
is considered a legal way to switch votes.




Endgame:

• When all players who can be converted have been converted at least once, the remaining Cult Leaders can choose to murder instead of converting someone.
• They can convert instead of murdering as well.
• This will continue until all Cult Leaders have been destroyed, or only one Cult remains, with enough votes to win outright.

BEGIN DAY ONE.

You will have 48 hours to discuss the situation, and try to point your finger at one of the heretics among you. After that, I'm going to try to shorten it to 24 hour days and nights.





Alive:

ArpeggiateTHIS
Believer
Captain Blackadder
Classical_hero
Diamondeye
GeneralHankerchief
Ibn-Khaldun
issaikhaan
Major Robert Dump
Mr Stuka
Populus Romanus
Renata
Robbiecon
Romanic
Secura
Seon
TheLastDays


Specifically, this round will end at 0259 hours (2:59:59 AM) Monday the 27th, Eastern time USA.

Vote: ATPG or whoever is his avatar in this particular game

Getting the potential weirdness out of the way right now.


Also, Askthepizzaguy is really awesome.

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Vote: ATPG or whoever is his avatar in this particular game

Getting the potential weirdness out of the way right now.

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Pssshhh. Like your little votes frighten me. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Vote: ATPG or whoever is his avatar in this particular game

Getting the potential weirdness out of the way right now.

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Now you beat me to it... :brood:

still vote: ATPG

It never hurts, does it?

3rd on the bandwagon, oooooooh yeah!

vote: ATPG

Oh yeah?

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

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Okay, lets try to figure out what the team distribution will be.

Obviously there are cult leaders and (per the game rules) at least 2 cults. The rules also mention other roles that aren't townie or cult, so maybe a serial killer or the like. That leaves 14 other people to account for. 14 v 2 v 1 seem kind of long odds for the cult and the serial killer. Unless the cults start with organic members other than the leader which would change the composition to who knows what. For example, are both cults equal or do they get specific talents?

Since cultists revert back to original cult after the (new) cult leader dies, I see a lot of misinformation getting thrown around when a cult leader gets lynched since his alignment won't be revealed but the remaining cult will regain members. I would say the most dangerous time in the game for townies will be if and when a cult leader is knocked off because of the sudden mass shift of members into one cult.

I think you're assuming too much; cults almost by definition begin with just the leader.

vote: ArpeggiateTHIS

He looks scummy.

vote: Diamondeye since random told me so. Thankfully it is not say to vote for me again, but it was close.

Vote: Believer. Rather you than Renata.

Vote: GeneralHankerchief

"let he who is without sin, cast the first stone" - I doubt that You are without a sin, Mr.Mafia

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Originally Posted by Ibn-Khaldun

"let he who is without sin, cast the first stone" - I doubt that You are without a sin, Mr.Mafia

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Just skimming that, it seemed like a good case.

Vote: GeneralHankerchief

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Originally Posted by Diamondeye

Vote: Believer. Rather you than Renata.

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Is it really just one or the other?

OMGUS: Vote: Diamondeye

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Originally Posted by Believer

Is it really just one or the other?

OMGUS: Vote: Diamondeye

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:stare: I know you're unreliable as long as Renata is around. And rather you than her. So there. Do you deny it? :inquisitive:

I could promise never to talk to him, if that would help.

vote: Mr. Stuka

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Originally Posted by Renata

I could promise never to talk to him, if that would help.

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I'm not sure it would be enough. He'd follow your lead even if he only had your public posts to go by. His mind is ripe, defenseless against the charms of those who hate pizza.

So you guys seriously don't think we should lynch Pizza?

vote: issaikhaan

For trying to lynch our host. :grin:

Knowing Pizza, he tried very dearly to make the game's title mean something. The surprise is that he's the bad guy. I know you might be thinking, "but 'Khaan, that's not a surprise, coming from Pizza!" But that's why its a surprise. Pizza is totally wifom'ing us.

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Originally Posted by issaikhaan

Knowing Pizza, he tried very dearly to make the game's title mean something. The surprise is that he's the bad guy. I know you might be thinking, "but 'Khaan, that's not a surprise, coming from Pizza!" But that's why its a surprise. Pizza is totally wifom'ing us.

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:grin:

I have succeeded in completely destroying your mind. My work here is finished.

I don't mean to be a whiney butt, but could someone in the proper timezone make a post and tell me what time it is so I can track turn deadlines better? I'm travelling between Kabul and some *cough* other places so my timezones vary from -10.5 to -12.5 etc

I CONFUSE

Welcome vote

Vote Populus Romanus

Nevermind I changed the CP to Eastern Time, forgot I could do that.

unvote; vote: Issaikhaan

Self-preservation, really. I hate being on the menu day one :sad:

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Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump

Since cultists revert back to original cult after the (new) cult leader dies, I see a lot of misinformation getting thrown around when a cult leader gets lynched since his alignment won't be revealed but the remaining cult will regain members. I would say the most dangerous time in the game for townies will be if and when a cult leader is knocked off because of the sudden mass shift of members into one cult.

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Wait, ATPG, will recruits revert back to their original alignment or their previous alignment if their current cult leader dies?

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Originally Posted by Diamondeye

:stare: I know you're unreliable as long as Renata is around. And rather you than her. So there. Do you deny it? :inquisitive:

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Unreliable, no.
Predictable, more like it.

Tally-time:

Askthepizzaguy: 3 (GeneralHankerchief, TheLastDays, issaikhaan)

Diamondeye: 2 (classical_hero, Believer)
GeneralHankerchief: 2 (Ibn-Khaldun, Mr. Stuka)
issaikhaan: 2 (Romanic, Diamondeye)

ArpeggiateTHIS: 1 (Renata)
Mr. Stuka: 1 (Secura)
Poulus Romanus: 1 (Captain Blackadder)

Do we know how ties will be resolved?