I'm moving out!

After spending eighteen and a half years with my parents, I'm going to move out of house and into an apartment in the city of Leiden, to fully concentrate on studying and stuff! In essence, I'm moving into a two-room apartment with a friend of mine, who'll be taking the upper floor, while I take the lower floor. 20 square metres for the both of us, including a small kitchen and bathroom.

So, you guys got any advice on how to survive in the big city, without mommy or daddy being able to help out when you're in trouble?

Oh, by the way, I'm going to study Arabic culture and language. Don't think that's too much of a surprise for people around here.

I live in NYC without my parents

big enough?

i live in a university dorm though

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i live in a university dorm though

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Ah yes, that's the difference. While there are some dorms around here, usually students are forced to rent an apartment, because most universities are located within the cities themselves, especially the older ones that were founded in the Medieval or Renaissance period.

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Ah yes, that's the difference. While there are some dorms around here, usually students are forced to rent an apartment, because most universities are located within the cities themselves, especially the older ones that were founded in the Medieval or Renaissance period.

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I still live in NYC........ the middle of NYC.


Some kids usually older ones have apartments off campus.

Edit: Not only that but as so happens my long established university is located in the middle of a relatively bad area of the city.

Isn't Leiden were all the foreign immigrant workers in the bulb factories go to buy their weed?

wait hahaha i just looked at the link leiden is so itty bitty. That's a city?

Congrats Hax! You gonna have to work to fund it or do you get student loans in Dutchland?

I will moving out soon to in the near future, just waiting to see where I get a job, been applying all over the UK...

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Originally Posted by Centurion1

I still live in NYC........ the middle of NYC.

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So, NYU?

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Edit: Not only that but as so happens my long established university is located in the middle of a relatively bad area of the city.

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So, not NYU?

Yeah, I have been confused by Cent's posts as well as to where he goes to uni.

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Yeah, I have been confused by Cent's posts as well as to where he goes to uni.

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TBH i would prefer it that way.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._New_York_City

Gotta be one of these. My money is on Saint John's University.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._New_York_City

Gotta be one of these. My money is on Saint John's University.

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uh no. i have higher standards.

why exactly did you think there.

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uh no. i have higher standards.

why exactly did you think there.

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Because it was a bluff to test your reaction. Thank you for the critical info.

EDIT: You recently admitted your athletic ability is how you got to pay where you are, which is another big clue as well.

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Because it was a bluff to test your reaction. Thank you for the critical info.

EDIT: You recently admitted your athletic ability is how you got to pay where you are, which is another big clue as well.

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.............. not really I don't play any sports beyond club rugby.

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.............. not really I don't play any sports beyond club rugby.

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As for the gym....... I am pretty sure i'm in better shape than you since yah know..... it dictates my ability to attend University and I do talk to girls :rolleyes:

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Hmmmmm. I will crack this mystery around you Cent.

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Hmmmmm. I will crack this mystery around you Cent.

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no you won't lol.

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no you won't lol.

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We shall see.

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We shall see.

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I can guarantee it. and ill even tell you if your right.

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I can guarantee it. and ill even tell you if your right.

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Ok then. You will slip up at some point. And I lurk hard boy.

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Ok then. You will slip up at some point. And I lurk hard boy.

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not hard enough or you wouldn't think I was an NCAA athlete.

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not hard enough or you wouldn't think I was an NCAA athlete.

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Never thought you were an NCAA athlete, just know that you got some sort of scholarship that wasn't scholastic based.

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Never thought you were an NCAA athlete, just know that you got some sort of scholarship that wasn't scholastic based.

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If a scholarship is for something that requires physical abilities you have to presume it's for Athletics, no? And I don't think that club and intramural sports offer scholarship........

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If a scholarship is for something that requires physical abilities you have to presume it's for Athletics, no? And I don't think that club and intramural sports offer scholarship........

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Two options:

A) You are lying to me to get me off the right trail.
B) Your physical abilities are being put to use heavily for a job which help pays for your uni tuition.

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Two options:

A) You are lying to me to get me off the right trail.
B) Your physical abilities are being put to use heavily for a job which help pays for your uni tuition.

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lol, neither.

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lol, neither.

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This makes no sense. You work out because attending uni depends on it. But you don't play sports for them, nor do you pay for uni with a job that demands physical labor. Hmmmmm

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This makes no sense. You work out because attending uni depends on it. But you don't play sports for them, nor do you pay for uni with a job that demands physical labor. Hmmmmm

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Dear god man. What do I defend and adore more than any other topic. I don't hide this either, goodness...........

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Dear god man. What do I defend and adore more than any other topic. I don't hide this either, goodness...........

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I thought about the military man but forgive my ignorance but doesn't the military pay for your uni after you serve, not before it? I got a friend who is planning on joining the marines but is taking community college before enlisting and as far I know, if there was a deal where he could get the military to pay for it he would have done it.

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I thought about the military man but forgive my ignorance but doesn't the military pay for your uni after you serve, not before it? I got a friend who is planning on joining the marines but is taking community college before enlisting and as far I know, if there was a deal where he could get the military to pay for it he would have done it.

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you ignant as hell son.

ROTC?

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you ignant as hell son.

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Enlighten me please.

If you cannot figure this one out I pity the fool man.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

the fool being you in this case.

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If you cannot figure this one out I pity the fool man.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

the fool being you in this case.

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I do not mind being the fool as long as I gain something from it. Quick googling provides me with no quick answers and I am watching the Republican Debate at the same time. So if you would please beat some information into this fool's head.

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I do not mind being the fool as long as I gain something from it. Quick googling provides me with no quick answers and I am watching the Republican Debate at the same time. So if you would please beat some information into this fool's head.

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Sigh dude. The answer is in the damn thread and I cannot believe you are being this slow................

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Sigh dude. The answer is in the damn thread and I cannot believe you are being this slow................

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Mocking aside, I don't know why you are surprised at how ignorant I am about the military. I know a total of two guys joining the military, one I never talk to. Previous posts with MRD have shown that I have close to zero knowledge about how military life is or what programs the military has. ROTC until I wiki'd it just now, was just a bunch of letters to me. Never knew anyone in it.

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Mocking aside, I don't know why you are surprised at how ignorant I am about the military. I know a total of two guys joining the military, one I never talk to. Previous posts with MRD have shown that I have close to zero knowledge about how military life is or what programs the military has. ROTC until I wiki'd it just now, was just a bunch of letters to me. Never knew anyone in it.

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Well...... at least you have your answer. I have mentioned ROTC more than a few times.

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Well...... at least you have your answer. I have mentioned ROTC more than a few times.

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Your recent posts page only went back to 35 posts ago and i saw nothing. I should have put in the time to just ctrl-f your name on frontroom threads.

EDIT: I am a bad stalker. Never took the time to constantly watch and read the myspace profiles of girls I had a crush on either.

So you play club Rugby... Are you going to follow any of the Rugby World Cup this year?

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So you play club Rugby... Are you going to follow any of the Rugby World Cup this year?

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Of course!

im a fan of the US of course but my money would be on the Kiwis.

Disregard all of mine and Cent's previous posts, we shared facebooks and now know everything about each other.

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Disregard all of mine and Cent's previous posts, we shared facebooks and now know everything about each other.

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Let me clear this up. Using absolutely nothing besides forum posts I discovered who ACIN was in RL.

The FBI needs me.

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Let me clear this up. Using absolutely nothing besides forum posts I discovered who ACIN was in RL.

The FBI needs me.

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This is a lie. He lurked my twitter and my many, many twitter followers in order to find out who I am.

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This is a lie. He lurked my twitter and my many, many twitter followers in order to find out who I am.

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It took ten minutes. tops.

and if many means as many fingers and toes you have? then yes i suppose :tongue:

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Of course!

im a fan of the US of course but my money would be on the Kiwis.

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Kiwis are New Zealanders and it is the nick name for he Rugby League team... The union team is The All Blacks

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Kiwis are New Zealanders and it is the nick name for he Rugby League team... The union team is The All Blacks

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I don't know the rugby scene internationally that well. By kiwi i simply meant new zealander i just thought that was a common moniker for residents of the country itself.

To Hax:

Congrats on moving out.

You and your friend will likely hate each other in about 6 weeks.

The big reason will be food and cleaning the kitchen. But maybe you will work it out.

Do you plan on going home often, so your mom can do your laundry?

I am sure this will be a great learning experience.

FIND A LANDLORD WHO TAKES FAVORS IN EXCHANGE FOR RENTZ

Good luck Hax! Try not to get too homesick! :)

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I don't know the rugby scene internationally that well. By kiwi i simply meant new zealander i just thought that was a common moniker for residents of the country itself.

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It is, but the funny thing it's also used for the Rugby League team... not the Rugby Union Team who are known as the All Blacks... and I hope they win... they've choked in the World Cup more then well the rating on this thread isn't high enough for that description. :laugh4:

PS I'm a West Islander ie a person with dual Australian/New Zealand citizenship.

Does anyone remember their first room mate?

Did you;

a) move out

b) dump a corps in the river

c) burn the place down

d) get him/her to move out or committed to the loony bin.

You forgot

e) had a shameful night of passion with after a night of to much Tequila after wich the both of you couldn't be in the same room without ackward sexual tension

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e) had a shameful night of passion with after a night of to much Tequila after wich the both of you couldn't be in the same room without ackward sexual tension

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My roommate's a girl though. Wouldn't be that bad. Still, the guilt of cheating on my girlfriend would probably kill me, so yeah.

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Congrats on moving out.

You and your friend will likely hate each other in about 6 weeks.

The big reason will be food and cleaning the kitchen. But maybe you will work it out.

Do you plan on going home often, so your mom can do your laundry?

I am sure this will be a great learning experience.

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Actually, I want to get my own washing machine so I can do my own laundry. My roommate's house is not that far away, so she'll probably be going home more often.

That, and I'll probably be spending as much time as possible at my girlfriend's place in Maastricht.


In other news, I don't think I've ever posted any thread that attracted that much attention. I guess I owe it all to the ever-nagging married couple ACIN and Centurion.

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e) had a shameful night of passion with after a night of to much Tequila after wich the both of you couldn't be in the same room without ackward sexual tension

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My roommate's a girl though. Wouldn't be that bad. Still, the guilt of cheating on my girlfriend would probably kill me, so yeah.

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Actually I was speaking from experience (and it was a girl). It starts to get awkward when she starts to get playful and clearly targets certain body parts without uhm permission.

ACIN, what Cent is talking about is a deal with the army you can make that by doing ROTC and pledging army service you can get a full scholarship to that college. Thats the deal he is doing now at his university. Of course you also can serve first then go to college on the GI Bill but Cent's option is also open.

Anyhow, my parents are making me move out of the house after I get back from my gap year. Well, they said I need to find a job first that can pay for an apartment. Which makes me happy because frankly Im tired of their BS.

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Of course! im a fan of the US of course but my money would be on the Kiwis.

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Kiwis over there will be insanely hard to beat, the whole country will be doing the Haka. Unfortunately they are hot favourites, but knowing us we tend to lift for one game every world cup and it's normally against the Kiwis. Also I got tickets to the Aus v USA game :smile:, hopefully I'll load up some photos come closer to the date.

EDIT: Also, congratulations Hax! Personally I am bleeding out staying at home as long as possible :thumbsup:. Free food and no bills (except vehicle and phone)! I'll ride my luck as long as possible!

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wait hahaha i just looked at the link leiden is so itty bitty. That's a city?

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So it is. But then again, in the Netherlands the distinction between city, town and village is all a bit blurred. For instance, The Hague, is not a city in the traditional sense of having city rights, it is in the sense that it is relatively large settlement; then again in Dutch there is no true distinction in size anyway: something is a hamlet, village or a city. Conversely, what in the USA typically passes for “town” based on size would here be called a village.

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So, you guys got any advice on how to survive in the big city, without mommy or daddy being able to help out when you're in trouble?

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Yes. Do not lose your ability to speak proper Dutch.

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Yes. Do not lose your ability to speak proper Dutch.

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Hah! I speak with a light Gooisch accent, I think I'll survive Leiden.

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... in the Netherlands the distinction between city, town and village is all a bit blurred...

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It's actually historical. A village or village has to be given the right to call itself a city. It has nothing to do with size though most historical cities are the larger 'towns' today. I know there is a city in Belgium that has less than 500 inhabitants.

Congrats, boy. :smoking:

Remember best mates are almost never the best flat/homemates -most times they turn out to be nemesis.

And that all the fuss generally stems from a wide array of bulldaisies ranging from cleaning/washing the dishes to absurd trifles such as some occasional negligence of flushing the toilet.

One needs to learn how to housekeep and that's the best way before getting married (if you ever do, that is).

Thumbrule: It's not your parents' home anymore. If you are picky, move out already. Remember that keeping your cool against problems and tolerating initial several mistakes of your room/home/flat/skyscrapermate and warning calmly if need be leads to a peaceful partnership. This is not to say let them have sex on you while you're planking. You're a smart one, you may decide the balance yourself.

Enjoy the scenery of forgotten tissues around the PC and the grin of your mate.

If utilities and such bills aren't included in the rent make a written agreement as to how they shall be shared and paid for. Saves a lot of misunderstandings when it's written down and signed by all parties. Be aware that whoever's name is on the utility bill is the one on the hook for failure to pay. Living on your own for the first time is a great learning experience. Congrats Hax. :bow:

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If utilities and such bills aren't included in the rent make a written agreement as to how they shall be shared and paid for.

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They are, thankfully. The rent's €710 a month, shared by the two of us, and €355 for 20m² isn't really that much in this particular city. Go us!

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It's actually historical. A village or village has to be given the right to call itself a city. It has nothing to do with size though most historical cities are the larger 'towns' today. I know there is a city in Belgium that has less than 500 inhabitants.

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I thought it was dependent on having a Cathedral to be named a city.

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It's actually historical. A village or village has to be given the right to call itself a city. It has nothing to do with size though most historical cities are the larger 'towns' today. I know there is a city in Belgium that has less than 500 inhabitants.

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Yeah, but once Nappie came and went that traditional notion sort of disappeared. EDIT: Smallest one here is apparently Staverden (40 people, city rights since 1298.)

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I thought it was dependent on having a Cathedral to be named a city.

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No, a Cathedral is the Seat of a Bishop.

Looks like it was only a thing peculiar to the UK:

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association between having a cathedral and being called a city was established in the early 1540s when King Henry VIII founded dioceses (each having a cathedral in the see city) in six English towns and also granted them city status by issuing letters patent.

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Promise you'll stay in touch with us once you move out. Okay Hax? :cry:

And congratulations.