I'm moving out!

**Centurion1** · 08-12-2011, 00:36

wait hahaha i just looked at the link leiden is so itty bitty. That's a city?

**Tellos Athenaios** · 08-13-2011, 10:52

Originally Posted by Centurion1

wait hahaha i just looked at the link leiden is so itty bitty. That's a city?

So it is. But then again, in the Netherlands the distinction between city, town and village is all a bit blurred. For instance, The Hague, is not a city in the traditional sense of having city rights, it is in the sense that it is relatively large settlement; then again in Dutch there is no true distinction in size anyway: something is a hamlet, village or a city. Conversely, what in the USA typically passes for “town” based on size would here be called a village.

**Peasant Phill** · 08-13-2011, 17:33

Originally Posted by Tellos Athenaios

... in the Netherlands the distinction between city, town and village is all a bit blurred...

It's actually historical. A village or village has to be given the right to call itself a city. It has nothing to do with size though most historical cities are the larger 'towns' today. I know there is a city in Belgium that has less than 500 inhabitants.

**Papewaio** · 08-14-2011, 01:19

Originally Posted by Peasant Phill

It's actually historical. A village or village has to be given the right to call itself a city. It has nothing to do with size though most historical cities are the larger 'towns' today. I know there is a city in Belgium that has less than 500 inhabitants.

I thought it was dependent on having a Cathedral to be named a city.

**Tellos Athenaios** · 08-14-2011, 05:49

Originally Posted by Papewaio

I thought it was dependent on having a Cathedral to be named a city.

No, a Cathedral is the Seat of a Bishop.

**Papewaio** · 08-15-2011, 04:44

Looks like it was only a thing peculiar to the UK:

association between having a cathedral and being called a city was established in the early 1540s when King Henry VIII founded dioceses (each having a cathedral in the see city) in six English towns and also granted them city status by issuing letters patent.

**Gregoshi** · 08-15-2011, 18:44

Promise you'll stay in touch with us once you move out. Okay Hax?

And congratulations.

**Tellos Athenaios** · 08-14-2011, 05:47

Originally Posted by Peasant Phill

It's actually historical. A village or village has to be given the right to call itself a city. It has nothing to do with size though most historical cities are the larger 'towns' today. I know there is a city in Belgium that has less than 500 inhabitants.

Yeah, but once Nappie came and went that traditional notion sort of disappeared. EDIT: Smallest one here is apparently Staverden (40 people, city rights since 1298.)