While the death toll appears, fortunately, to be quite low, I would like to extend my thoughts and prayers to those affected by the recent windstorm in Europe. As a Floridian, I am quite aware of the impact such windstorms can have.
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While the death toll appears, fortunately, to be quite low, I would like to extend my thoughts and prayers to those affected by the recent windstorm in Europe. As a Floridian, I am quite aware of the impact such windstorms can have.
It wasn't so bad. This is pretty normal this season, this one was a bit harder though.
It knocked over my neighbour's back fence and canceled my train. Other than that it was fine
The plumbing of a girls I know, broke.
Several deaths were reported, Denmark I believe, at least according to our newsies.
A few freak-accidents, just being there when a tree falls. That happens every year, they were just unlucky the storm wasn't that bad, certainly not what you call a storm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
I know I shouldn't take this the wrong way, but I just did...Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiaexz
A water pipe burst and caused a mess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarmatian
The whole street ended up flooded.
Use your rod and unclog that sucker several inches at a time!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiaexz
Is this the difference between European and US media? What I got from the news was a bunch of delayed flights, trains and some injuries, while the US media seems to dig for the deaths...Quote:
Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
Anyway, I missed this one.
You do see the odd pop-up of how people lost some fences or similar.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoreTore
The article on the BBC was this.
It is what we Brits call "A little breezy".
Though, in Seamus' defense, it affected the Dutchies and those along the coast far worse.
I was a bit disappointed. I live in a city but I still expected more than two strong breezes.
Yes, some areas were affected more, some trains stopped and so on, but in the end it was a relatively normal strong storm, the kind we get once in a while and it's not the end of the world. As for the victims, tragic, but maybe if you account for people who didn't die in normal everyday traffic accidents because some people stayed at home due to the storm warnings, it may even out again. :sweatdrop:
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Originally Posted by HoreTore
No the english telly was shouting across all channels about how something we call an Irish summer was on its way for ages.
On a more serious note I believe there was a lot of power disruption and trees knocked in the south of england.
I found the wind pretty annoying. I have this one window without something that can keep it shut so I usually keep it shut with a 'leitz folder'(Not sure what this is called in other countries; Basically something to collect papers in). This time it didn't keep the window shut so I had to barricade the window with 2 stacks of books.
The greater annoyance was the thunder around 1-2 am that was really loud.
The power went out for 2 minutes! :D Exciting stuff for Europe XD
We had a few knocked over trees, a road blocked here and there but I don't think it was very severe. The only funny thing was the power going out, which caused all the house alarms to go off at the same time around this area.Quote:
Originally Posted by gaelic cowboy
A few fallen trees, nothing serious. Like Hussie I was a little dissapointed, storms are awesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiaexz
Fortunately this time the mediastorm was bigger than the windstorm.
Well, Russia got hit hard.
16 deaths (if I heard it correctly, could have been 6) and 11,000 people were left without electricity.
So The Happening is happening?
In Sweden, a very unlucky moose got killed by, like, the only tree to fall in the vicinity...
As long as that tops the news...
Newspaper Headline: Tree Whisked Away by Wind Mousses Moose
Removed :)
Four deaths in the UK - that's pretty bad by our standards - largely the fault of Highways not felling old trees, though.
provided for some very nice tv footage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnA_JgDEhmM
and a possible new "largest wave ever surfed" world record.
Man, in the US we get a dozen deaths if it's sunny out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla
It's election time in Denmark, so after getting blown into the sidewalk and taking a dive over my bike I then got hit in the back by a local politician. Made of paper glued to a cardboard. Ow.
Some guy got struck by a part of scaffolding outside the shop we were in, which is how we found it it was a little more than "pretty windy", but other than general transportation issues and a few deadly accidents it wasn't terrible.
This is just so weird. I have never seen a really strong wind storm here.
Most people tend to heed weather warnings too. So they end up unaffected, mostly.
I had no idea you lived in George Osborne's voting district.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarmam
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In Tartu (Estonia) the wind blew a little harder than before and some trees fell down. I don't think anyone was hurt though.
Awesome, that are some serious wavesQuote:
Originally Posted by Ronin
Yikes, now THAT is a storm, 10.000 dead in the Philipines. Isn't our MRD there or did I understand that wrong
He is and he seems to be okay, wasn't in the eye of the storm but saved all the cute girls from his neighborhood as far as I can tell.
Geez that's generous, two milion from the Neds, 3 million from the EU, 450.000 from the US.
Can they at least get some candy with that.
What are you talking about?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-24901993Quote:
Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
Typhoon Haiyan
About the 10.000 dead in the Philipines perhaps? Been following the news lately? It's probably much worse they just started counting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
Popular support, aka as private donations got Indonesia 160 million at the time from here when they got slapped by a tsunami. If the Dutch citizens can raise that than 2 million is a bit of a joke considering the circumstances.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube
I was aware of that, and have already said Hail Marys for them. I was referring to the numbers post you had made.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
Australia donated $400k of emergency supplies. Which seems small. It is apparently only the immediate portion of the $10M of the first set with commitment to add aid where required.
So often the first response by a country is what they have on tap to give right away. With the assessments still incoming and another storm too, I believe that the help will increase.
Unless you're capable of donating a working airport, I fail to see what giving more money RIGHT NOW!!!!1111 will accomplish.
No use donating a ton of clean water if none of it can be shipped to those in need, eh?
Ships are handy in shipping exercises.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoreTore
Ships needs harbors.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiaexz
Care to donate one of those as well?
USN on the way with portable airfield and helicopters.
Good lads, chapeauQuote:
Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
It is who we are; we could do no other.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
And bless you for that. Having that ship there is going to make giving water, food and medicines a whole lot easier, saves thousands of lives. Hello France and England, you also have these things, got anything better to do? Kudo's to the Americans, you guys are awesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
Frags, while -- aside from our own (sadly absent) Louis -- I am hardly a Francophile, it is only fair to note that the French and British flat tops are deployed a bit distant from the scene. China, Thailand, Korea, and Japan (sadly experienced in this work) are the others with carriers in reasonable proximity. The Ozzies won't have theirs fully operational for a bit yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
I didn't know the Ozzies had them. It should be a requirement to have at least one operational one to be a Nato member imho.
1) Aircraft carriers are expensive to operate and if you want to help with humanitarian efforts it ain't the only way. The nuclear reactors on board the US ships are very useful for power and would help with making a mobile desalination plant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
2) NATO stands for two things neither of which sum up Australia's position in this.
3) Having said that Australia has a bad history with operating aircraft carriers.
"HMAS Melbourne (R21) was a Majestic-class light aircraft carrier of the Royal Australian Navy (RAN). Operating from 1955 until 1982, she was the third and final conventional aircraft carrier(I) to serve in the RAN. Melbourne was the only British Commonwealth naval vessel to sink two friendly warships in peacetime collisions.[4]" -Wikipedia
Apparently the Spanish-based design is well thought of and, I hope, she won't be a hard luck ship like the Melbourne.Quote:
Originally Posted by Papewaio
CVN's can not only power desalination facilities on shore, but carry substantial capability for same on board. I've heard it said that the crews often cut down their own water usage and skip showers to help out more locals when pulling these missions too. It can make a difference.
Edit: Btw, I think Frags was using NATO in its unofficial "first world developed nation" label rather than its official title. Oz was part of SEATO and not NATO, of course. Your lot were some of the few who fought with us in Vietnam as well -- you don't usually get the credit deserved for that support. Too much of the good that was done by our friends was forgotten in our mental efforts to put that "unpleasantness" behind us.
We should have at least 20 IMHO.
That way we wouldn't need to buy the rest of Europe...
The George Washington is the one on it's way, alone it can desalinate 400K gallons of water a day. I think there is also an LHA in the area that is donating choppers for supplies and transport.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
And, apparently a USNS supply ship with needful stuff. Given the scale of this one, I suspect we will see more USN deployed there along with the amphibs for mobility.Quote:
Originally Posted by drone
Ah, who would have thought, the church of Global Warming sees an opertunity. Shame on you for using this tragedy for your own agenda, I sincerily wish you get a traffic-jam in your aorta for being so opertunistic, Philipines have hurricanes every year, completily normal, this one was really bad yeah. Can I see some correlation please. Ah right, that settles it.
Shameless.
Send an aircraft carrier with chinooks instead. THAT helps.
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Originally Posted by Fragony
Frags:
Global warming is the reason we have had stronger storms of recent years with somewhat more frequency than before. While the warming has plateaued over the last 10-15 years, it is still a degree or two higher than a century or so back. Makes for warmer water and bigger storms.
I am not so sure about the anthropogenic character of the current warm cycle, nor am I sure that drastically curtailing CO2 emission is the proper response even if we take that anthropogenic character as a fact, but trying to suggest that we aren't in a warmer period is not the direction to go.
0.2 degrees celcius in a hundred years. Of course there is climate change, there always have been. To try to push agendas with this isn't just a little bit tasteless, it's so incridibly shameless that I wonder how they can sleep.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
Oh the stingie Dutch, almost 4 million euro has been donated by now six hours after the fund opened, all private donations. That is already a million more than the entire EU had to spare. Kudo's. Have yet to wire mine, can't at the moment but will.
On the flipside, they would argue that they want to make the world a better place, with not having an increase in the number and intensity of storms and further tragedies.They would most likely argue: "How do you sleep at night, working to continue this blight to cause more suffering in the future?".Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
So I am just saying, the way you say about how you have no trouble, they don't have any trouble either.
That would be incredibly easy, as the blight simply doesn't exists. It's just the way of things, nothing more. Climate just has the habbit of changing, you can count these changes back to millenia if you want to and lash out at Rolex for lacking the clockwork accuracy earth has.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiaexz
http://www.notundertaxed.com/2007/05/10/
What causes it is pretty damn easy to me, planetary allignment.