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As crappy as the source is, it's all I have. Paris Hilton has been freed, apparently. Awesome, I say. Looks like that Free Paris petition worked...
http://www.tmz.com/2007/06/07/paris-...l-explanation/
EDIT: YES I AM TRULY OVERJOYED THAT THE JUSTICE SYSTEM WORKS SO WELL.... lol
Wow, talk about making a mockery out of justice.
That'll teach the kids not to drink and drive :furious3:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...=moreheadlines
"Unspecified medical problem". Sounds like withdrawal symptoms to me. :yes:
Does the tracking bracelet match her necklace?
Well I wonder what it really is. Some suggest that it might be her refusing to eat or not liking the brightness of her cell.
She couldn't ask for a lighter sentence. :inquisitive:Quote:
Originally Posted by FactionHeir
And i care about the antics of some stupid slut who represents most of what is wrong with western society why?
:laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by drone
Because she is a stupid slut with lots of money?Quote:
Originally Posted by currywurry
Whats not to like? :beam:
Well, when discussing it with children, it's important to point out that it's still not ok for poor or ugly people to drink and drive. :yes:Quote:
Originally Posted by doc_bean
Nice play, LA. :balloon:
Who wants some race riots in response? :beam:
I'm afraid that between Paris and Lindsay, the tracking bracelets will become the new "must have" accessory in fashionland. :dizzy2:
And who says Paris isn't ugly? Personally, I don't see what the appeal is. I think she looks like a transvestite.
And we're surprised today's children don't want to become scientists, writers, or philosophers anymore, they just want to be celebrities.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xiahou
No wonder when this once again shows celebrities are above the law :no:
I've always felt the same. I think it's the nose. She should get it fixed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Corleone
A perfect woman is a [sexist remark removed because not allowed]Quote:
Originally Posted by Odin
AND without spending the money on crap, being a drug user, drunk driver or other criminal
AND being good looking AND not being self-conceited (this may be an incorrect word choice, excuse my poor English).
This specimen lacks the two last properties.
You robbed your own post of it's meaning.
I don't think she's physical ugly but she doesn't have nice eyes, ergo ugly soul.
It's Because of her Douche Bag of a Dad Rick Hilton. May the ****** suffer eternally in...some form of Eternal Afterlife involving Brimstone and Fire. Or pitch forks!
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Originally Posted by doc_bean
Dont worry Doc if it had been you or I we woulda been lucky to see the free light of day again
as I am constantly explaining to people - in the western consumer society - the people who get the most justice are those that can pay the most for it
Is this the place to rant about Paris Hilton?
Go ahead. :yes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Soulforged
Seriously though, yes. I actually felt sort of sorry for the poor girl being called a slut all the time like that...but after this incident I'm convinced Ms. Hilton & Co. really does deserve the criticism. Ah well, so much for my idealistic Every-Body-Has-A-Good-Heart-Somewhere fairytale viewpoint. Drunk driving and getting off justice easily does no credit to her.
You have to be an extraordinarily weak person when you can't manage 23 small days in prison.
Maybe her orange boilersuit clashed with her complexion?
Do not collect $200.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
~D
Huzzah!
Huzzah!
Justice is served.
:laugh4:Quote:
"It's not right!" shouted the weeping Hilton. "Mom!" she called out to her mother in the audience.
On a side note, it makes me wonder what kind of deal team Hilton had worked out with the Sheriff. This reaction makes me think that she already knew she wouldn't be serving her time when she was originally sentenced.
The funny thing is that she now has to spend 45 days total (the original sentence) in the slammer, instead of the 23(?) she was slated for. So I guess no new tapes for another month and a half, unless it's "Chained Heat".
I'm perfectly happy to see the little miss receive her just deserts, but 23 days in an American jail is not the same thing as 23 days in a NorwegianQuote:
Originally Posted by HoreTore
resortjail, I think. In her case, the inmates of the County jail are on record as saying they have it in for her and can't wait to 'welcome her with a slumber party thrown in her honor'.
Well, she probably didn't expect to have to serve double the original sentence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xiahou
Judging by her comments I would say it's not unlikely that she's a junkie.
Also: the sherrif should be fired.
Exactly. Lets check his re-election funding.:2thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Xiahou
I don't think I understand what happened. She was sentenced to 45 days (23 if she behaved, the rest at home). After 3 days, the sheriff let her go, and the judge is now saying she has to serve the whole 45? Why is she being punished for a lax sheriff?Quote:
Originally Posted by drone
That was my original thought, but then she did claim a medical condition that she couldn't back up to get out of jail. It's pretty much a given that the sherrif got bribed. The judge had specifically asked for proff of the medical condition but none was given.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Corleone
And her behaviour (very calm three days ago, histerical now) indicates this was all planned. The original verdict specified that she had to serve her time in jail. She showed bad behaviour, she has to do all of it now.
That said, I think she is being judged rather harshly now, I fully support tough sentences for drunk drivers (hell, they can try all of them for attempted murder if it were up to me), but according to the article, she's been giving a tougher sentence than most people would have gotten.
Well...
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The judge interrupted several times to say that he had received a call last Wednesday from an undersheriff informing him that Hilton had a medical condition and that he would submit papers to the judge to consider. He said the papers never arrived.
Sounds fishy.Quote:
Hilton's attorney, Richard Hutton, implored the judge to order a hearing in his chambers at which he would hear testimony about Hilton's medical condition before making a decision.
The judge did not respond to that suggestion.
Well, regardless of the whole sheriff/judge wrangling (and that sheriff is in a LOT of trouble if you guys are right) I think Paris is about to enter a whole new world when it comes to physical relationships. I actually feel bad for her, getting thrown into general population when you're that famous? You're guaranteed to get raped, man or woman.
Someone will watch for her, no warden would want to risk that sort of publicity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Corleone
True, but if she tried to game the system, she deserves what she is getting. The sheriff is in trouble as well, I imagine.Quote:
Originally Posted by doc_bean
As for "hard time", she is being held in a special wing for high-profile inmates, so it's unlikely that she needs to worry about dropping the soap. As a plus, it's probably cheaper and more effective than some celebrity detox clinic.
I'm just saying, she may come out of the pokey, looking for a date with Ellen DeGeneres. This is a huge problem I have with the American criminal justice system, that it seems unwilling, or unable, to provide for people's safety and physical integrity. When you take somebody into custody, you're responsible for them. And nobody deserves to be repeatedly raped (man or woman, by men or by women) for their crimes. It makes a mockery of our justice system. The only consolation I can find is that supposedly (and I have no statistics on it) is that its nowhere near as prevalant as popular culture seems to think. It happens, but not all the time, every inmate...
Where does it say she'll get thrown in general population ? She'll just get her own little private cell back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Corleone
Well, that's what parole on good behaviour is about, you're cooperative and don't try to 'game the system' or escape, at least imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by drone
I wonder if the role of the sherrif and his motivation for releasing her is going to be investigated, I'd hope so.
I can all but guarantee it. If he took a bribe to acknowledge her medical condition and let her out, he may be facing a little time himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by doc_bean
Yup, it was stated early on that she'd have a private cell.Quote:
Originally Posted by doc_bean
I missed the bit about a private cell. Only seems fair since she'll have a huge bullseye on her back the whole time. That being said, isn't that the same as being in solitary?
Strange according to swedish newspapers she has a roommate that was handpicked because she wouldn't cause Paris any troubles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Corleone
Solitary confinement. :inquisitive: Hmmmm....If so, barring meal times, that would leave Ms. Hilton alone -- with only her thoughts for company -- for as long as six weeks. There's a bit of irony in that, no?
Ultimately, this sentencing etc. is a fiasco. My country is spending millions of dollars on the reportage of this series of escapades and I don't even want to think about the hours of work time wasted over this. Iraq, Afghanistan, Polish prisons, Congress failure to deal with immigration, the Jefferson arraignment -- all of this is sidelined in favor of the redolent tripe of this episode in "justice."
For celebs, with misdemeanors/no victims, its probably just wiser to fine them and move on. They are, by definition, among the "beautiful people" to whom such tawdry minutia should not apply -- and all of us are punished when some well-intentioned soul insists on treating them the same as the rest of us. All the money and adulation mean that we have to cope with an inane circus with everyone falling all over themselves to assert that everything is being handled "normally." That is fatuous at best. Move on, cut the losses and get back to life.
Don, I'm replying to the bolded bit:Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Corleone
(Warning: the links point to pages from the Human Rights Watch's website. While there is no profane language that I've noticed, some of the links contain descriptions of a ... shall we say, unsavory nature.)
http://hrw.org/doc/?t=usa_prisons&document_limit=60,20
Check out the 3 lines that summarize the findings of the third listed article.
Also, check this out, from here: http://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/prison/report7.html
From the same report:Quote:
Originally Posted by The Article
That is why "popular culture" doesn't know much about it - because correctional facilities keep little, if any, statistics. And no, the reason they don't keep statistics is not because "it's not a problem", as the numerous confessions and reports of inmates present everywhere through the (378 pages) Human Rights Watch report repeatedly explain.Quote:
None of the types of prison rape described [what he calls "confidence rape," "extortion rape," "strong arm rape," etc.] are rare. If anything they are rarely reported. To give you an idea of how frequent rape is in prison, if victims would report every time they were raped in prison I would say that in the prison that I am in (which is a medium minimum security prison) there would be a reported incident every day.
--Pennsylvania inmate.
Btw, Don, please don't take this as a jibe against you personally, or anything like that. You just made a statement which I happen to disagree with, and I'm trying to provide some evidence that things are not as "ok" as popular opinion seems to believe. My reply is in no way "personal", but I replied because until not long ago, I was sharing your opinions myself, and I believe that many others among us do.
Alone with her thoughts? Hmm, oughta be pretty quiet then. :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
No offense taken, Blodrast. I was hoping that wasn't the case, but :shame: . Seriously? I'd kill myself before I'd do any length of time. I couldn't face getting raped and what have I got for 'street-cred' once I get in there?
Best thing you can do when you go to Max Security is get in a brawl, doesn't matter if you win or lose, if people know your willing to fight they leave you alone for the most part.
Good, I'm glad you didn't take it personally, especially since it wasn't meant that way. :bow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Corleone
Like I said, I had the same opinion myself, until I started reading some material on the topic. It is ... shocking, to say the least. To me, at any rate. And even more scary, since I'm white, and not exactly with an imposing physique. And I, as well as a number of inmates, share your opinions on getting raped - if you spend more time on those pages, you'll see quite a few of them saw suicide as the only escape. Either that, or become one of the others, so you can survive.
Anyway, I apologize for somewhat hijacking the thread, and also for feeding you all such depressing material right before the weekend and all that. But at the very least we can, and probably should, be aware of some of the more unsavory aspects of the society we're all living in.
Dude, all you have to do is either beat someone up on your first day, or start collecting "underlings" (can't say the real word, remember?). Else I'd watch your butt. Also, I don;t mean to shock you, but:Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Corleone
WARNING: REAL SCREWED UP STUFF:
http://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/prison/voices.html
Also, I got something cool:
EDIT: Some may consider the picture cool, but there is a point where exulting in the misery of others, no matter how deserved, is no longer appropriate for this forum. Removed link. BG
I know we have a prison guard here on the board, so I'd like to hear his input. I don't know about medium security prisons, but I have a relative who's a guard at a maximum security prison in PA. There's basically nothing an inmate can do, where they aren't watched by a guard. Assaults can and do happen- but they're always responded to quickly by guards and, obviously, documented. I know for sure that rape isn't a daily occurrence there.
If prison and government officials under report I also expect that HRW is over estimating the results of their studies.
*Why the hell are we discussing this in a Paris Hilton thread?
Apparently because people want Paris to be lezzy-raped.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xiahou
I agree, not all criminals who serve sentences are guilty, and many aren't serving for the worst of crimes (heck don't some people get to choose jail instead of fines when they can't afford to pay them, for instance?). Security of the prisoners is a necessity in a democracy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Corleone
Why doesn't someone start another thread about prison abuse ? This really isn't the place for that. This is place is for being the lesser man and enjoying the misfortunes of the rich and famous !
From what i read, there was a roommate selected but she had the cell all to herself since they had sufficient space to put all the 'special' prisoners into their own cells.Quote:
Originally Posted by TB666
I heard that she was having a nervous breakdown due to the fact that she isn't allowed moisturiser and leg wax. The trials and tribulations of a 'special one'.
The bit that made me chuckle was when she insisted on attending court via a telephone. The judge took a differing view and had her brought to him in chains. So let's re-cap.
She gets caught driving over the proscribed limit. Goes to court and gets her licence suspended. A few weeks later she is caught driving and given a ticking off. (unbelievable) Then a few weeks after that she is again stopped, this time for speeding as well. This time the officer did his job and she is summoned to court. She gets 45 days in the nick, this is reduced immediately to 23 for 'good behaviour'. :dizzy2:
She hands herself in and gets the orange makeover she aspires to. A couple of days later her psychiatrist convinces the sheriff that she should be released and she is. The judge hears about this (here come the judge, here come the judge :yes: ) and the rest we know.
Now I have an admission to make. Back in '87 I got caught driving OPL and was banned for a year. If I had driven in that time I would have expected to go to gaol. She gets caught 3 times, spends 2 days in't nick......draw your own conclusions. :sweatdrop: