Even though it's horrible, all I can say is I told you so and that's what you get for denying help because of your ridiculous beliefs.
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Even though it's horrible, all I can say is I told you so and that's what you get for denying help because of your ridiculous beliefs.
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Poor young woman.
Ah, well. Tragic accidents because of beliefs...
Scientology is just another cult, this proves it.
"But a spokeswoman for Scientology's Australian arm, Vicki Dunstan, said she doubted the family belonged to the church. It had no knowledge of them and had never had contact with them."
Classy. Nothing like distancing yourself from a problem you created. I'm sure if they had been practicing Scientology "correctly," this would not have happened, right?
Hail Xenu!
Maybe she did this because she didn't eat enough placentas? :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lemur
Woah. You'd think her parents might have relented a bit earlier if she was coming out with stuff like this.Quote:
I'm wanting more killing
Even if the Scientologists are telling the truth about not being affiliated with these people-which I doubt-they do hate psychiatry, right? So what these people were doing was in line with their beliefs.
Devils Advocates Mode :devil:
Did she kill anyone while she wasn't taking anti-psychotic drugs? No.
Did she kill anyone after taking anti-psychotic drug? Yes.
So the scientologists are going to use this as vindication that their system works.
Devils Advocates Mode off :angel:
Actually, that was my first thought when I read the article. Scientology can even use this to prove their point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Papewaio
But even if she did kill after she had begun taking the drugs, she would never have decayed so fast or so greatly if she had had the proper help and care. So IMHO Scientologists can go cram it. ~DQuote:
Originally Posted by doc_bean
Scientology cult scientology evil cult.
Sorry - just doing my little bit to keep the Google cult ranking up for the business execs of xenu.
Fair enough Idaho, because that's exactly what it is. An evil money stealing cult.
Meh, an evil cult is what the large religion calls the small religion.
And the other way around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
But even our atheist government called Scientology an evil cult, does that make atheism a large religion?
No, it means that secular governments are most of the time too scared to stand up to the excesses of large organised religions also.Quote:
Originally Posted by Husar
That is the reward of being the first.
I'm with Louis on this. It amuses me when people laugh at all of the "Hail Xenu!" stuff, but then will brook no criticism of their own, mainstream religion.
Does that mean child molesting catholic priests are not being imprisoned or islamic terror cells are left alone? Or what are the excesses of modern mainstream religions?Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
Do you mean things like the Pope saying condoms are bad? I wouldn't say that's comparable to this case because there are enough other ways to not get STDs. As a "virgin" I know what I'm talking about.:juggle2: :laugh4:
Doesn't mean I'm a fan of the Pope or catholicism, I just think they're treating their members in somewhat more humane ways.
As much as I loathe scientology, I don't think this incident can be used to condemn them. This is a very rare example of human behavior. It is simply not possible to say, nor reasonable to assume, that psychiatric care would have prevented this degradation. Outside of the fact that if she had been locked up, she would not have been able to hurt anybody. Psychiatric facilities are prisons first and not pleasant places for the jailed or the jailer.
Hah! Everything about you screams Catholicism. I even recognised you in this video! ~;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Husar
That must've been my heretic twin. Despite living close to Cologne, I have never been there on carnival.Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
I'm also known as a lutheran in this website's chat. ~;)
Doesn't mean I'm a fan of Martin Luther though...:laugh4:
Well don't worry, this isn't the first time it has happened and won't be the last.Quote:
Originally Posted by Del Arroyo
Warning: Contains graphic images that is not worksafe, good for children or for people with weak stomachs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCGP-0545EU
Dude there's a big step between believing curing sickness and aliens loaded into D60s or whatever and dropped into volcanoes. But your right in that it is so incredibly hypocritical of people if they can't take criticism of their beliefs. So I don't mind if you criticise what I believe, because in some cases it deserves criticism.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big King Sanctaphrax
It is not the strange beliefs of the cult of Scientology that make it dangerous, but the practicies of the organisation. Threats, intimidation, extotion and control of information about what they do and difficulty of leaving.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big King Sanctaphrax
I think that this is it. The one instance which is the topic of this thread and the one additional instance cited in the mini-"documentary" linked by TB of "Scientology-induced" psychotic killing rage are isolated and poorly understood.Quote:
Originally Posted by Idaho
Scientology is still of course evil, and there are plenty of other reasons to take action against it.
Its like that for all religions. The fear of the unknown of death has drawn humans to make up all these fairy tales. When people realise that their existence means nothing, that your moment in time is just that, then true liberation from the horrors of this world (and of death) is the real gift. I urge everyone to turn their back on their particular dogma and prepare for their end by ignoring it because it doesn't make a difference.:2thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Idaho
Scientology is just a the same jibberish that 2000 years from now people will be wearing drinking wine and calling it the blood of Hubbard. Yawn....:book:
Why do you hate Jesus?Quote:
Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave
Because he hates you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lemur
Oh come on Dave, stop being so hateful. I pay him well to mow my yard, he should love me for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave
Badda bing badda bang, try the potato salad folks.
:balloon2:
Jesus loves you more than you will know. :yes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave
On topic: Back to the grounds of where religious freedom stops and concern for life begins. Clearly this case is far off the left field on the issue. The poor woman. :no:
The article's writing does seem a bit sensationalized, though.
Now you've thrown me. I thought you were a paid up god-botherer Dave?Quote:
Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave
Don't tell me the Scientologists have got to you!? :laugh4:
Did Ron have a mother and was she called mother Hubbard? :laugh4: