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    Default Re: Can I get a gay couple here?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goofball
    1) It says that it's okay to discriminate against gays because we have always done so in the past, and not discriminating them is a "revolutionary" new idea that we should take slowly. Based on that logic, should we not allow employers to fire homosexual employees, in order to improve workplace harmony by not offending the sensibilities of more conservative employees?
    A Strawman arguement my dear Goofball, the care and raising of children does not equate to an individuals ability to perform their job. I but into this conservation because I happen to agree with Beriut about adoption.


    2) There is no basis whatsoever to make a claim that same-sex couples are any more likely to be unfit parents than hetero couples, and there is no evidence to suggest that having opposite-sex parents is any more or less beneficial to a child than having same-sex parents. On the other hand, I can come up with a considerable amount of data that would support the idea that children raised by black parents are more likely to become criminals than children raised by white parents. Should we also give preference in adopting based on skin color? And your statement about what is "normal" is just silly. In the thirties, it was more or less "normal" for a husband to blacken his wife's eye for her if she didn't mind her manners. Luckily, several wacky "social experiments" since then have changed that custom. (Okay, I know I said sarcasm was off, but I couldn't resist that one.)
    Your throwing a red herring into the arguement Goofball. Address the issue of same-sex couples and traditional couples to bring forth your premise. Traditional families have been shown to be the preferred method of child rearing, regardless of the color of thier skin.

    There is already considerable evidence that a good portion of heterosexual couples make a complete balls-up of raising their children. Should we outlaw all heterosexual couple adoption for thirty years or so until we can do an in-depth study to determine what kind of people are more likely to be good parents vs. bad parents so thet we may more properly screen applicants?
    Is that a counter to the arguement that a traditional family is the preferred family unit for child rearing for a healthy society?


    "We shouldn't let gay couples adopt because if we do, the rest of us will continue our narrow-minded, cruel ways and discriminate not only against the gay couple themselves, but against the child they adopt as well. Hey, don't blame me, blame society."
    I don't believe that is the stance Beriut nor myself have taken on the issue. Edit: I see that was directed at someone else. Sorry for the mis-reading of the statement.
    Last edited by Redleg; 01-13-2006 at 00:03.
    O well, seems like 'some' people decide to ruin a perfectly valid threat. Nice going guys... doc bean

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