Quote Originally Posted by Proletariat
Also, anyone else get an interesting PM from Andres last night? A few rounds ago he PMed me to vote for Kralizec and I'd get an 'in' with his family. I was jumping on the bandwagon against Kral anyway, so I wrote back saying I wouldn't be a part of it unless I knew a more about his family or what his goals were. Yesterday he writes back saying basically 'vote for pevergreen, or I'll quote your response in the game thread.'

I thought that was a pretty poor attempt at blackmail, but it's interesting that Andres wanted Kral dead badly, and now has it in for pevergreen. pevergreen looks plenty guilty to me anyhow, don't really see the need for Andres to go around garnering votes.

Well, well, well. Proletariat wants me dead...

I'll tell the town some thingies...

Just a reminder : my time zone is GMT +1 (Brussels, Paris)

I PM'd Proletariat on the 24th of January at 9:16 am

At that time, the vote tally was as follows:


Quote Originally Posted by Pindar
I'm convinced.

Vote: Pevergreen


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pevergreen - 9 (Kagemusha,Crazed Rabbit,AndresTheCunning, Sasaki, Xiahou, Papewaio, Destroyer of Hope, Stranger, Pindar)
AndresTheCunning - 5 ( Luigi VI di Fatlington, Moros, CountArach, BKS)
ByzantineKnight - 1 (doc_bean)
Abstain - 4 (Alexander, ByzantineKnight, Destroyer of Hope, Kommodus)
Sasaki - 2 (pevergreen, Pannonian)
Reenk Roink - 1 (Reenk Roink)
No Lynch - 1 (Caius)

9 for pevergreen - 5 for me. Seamus posted that this day would en at 14h00 his timezone, this means at 20h00 for me. Still 11 hours to go and it was not sure pevergreen would be lynched. So I wanted a bandwagon by the time the players of the other timezons popped up.

Why did I want pevergreen to die so eagerly?

In tempore non suspecto (when I was not yet participating in the game) Kralizec informed me he was 90 % sure pevergreen was mafia (from another family). After seeing his suspicious "investigation results" I was convinced he was mafia.

So I pm'd Proletariat this at 9.16 am:

Quote Originally Posted by AndresTheCunning
1. Jump on the bandwagon and vote pevergreen
2. pm me your role description.


I assume you don't want this to appear in the Capo thread, do you?
What was this "this"? Well it was a pm Proletariat sent to me in tempore non suspecto (to be precisely the 19th of January at 19:29) to be deliverd at my "mafia contact", id est Kralizec

Here is the pm:

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Quote Originally Posted by Proletariat
Quote Originally Posted by AndresTheCunning
Hello Proletariat,

I apologize for the condescending tone, I didn't mean it like that. I did mean to let you in once you've started to kill for us. I also apologize for what Ichigo did, I messed up the PMs so that he went after you.
If you're willing to forgive me, we need your help pretty badly.
Reenk Roink is one of my potential recruits who I've been talking to. He's (almost) tied with Krazilec when it comes to votes so the result is a little uncertain. If Krazilec is lynched he'll be the scapegoat for this PM episode. Vote for him and I'll bring you into our family.

Signed,
A mafioso

To the mafioso,

No need to apologize, I was trying to get a rise out of the mysterious group that contacted so many players, nothing was meant by what I said in the thread.

I have placed my vote on Kral and willl leave it there for now, but I'm still a little skeptical about what I'm getting into here. What family is this? What's your faction's goal? How can I help?

prole
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Now, why would Kralizec have asked for Proletariat to vote for him? Check this thread and specifically the posts made by that time. Things were going pretty bad for Kralizec. He was about to get lynched. He thought Proletariat didn't want to cooperate and thus he thought I'll say to vote Kralizec and then she will vote for somebody else. Apparently Proletariat was willing to cooperate with the mafia and she voted Kralizec... Don Kralizec gambled and lost.

To prove it was Kralizec who wrote the legendary PM's, I'll tell you this :

Kralizec was surprised that I had joined the game and he wrote this to me:

Quote Originally Posted by Kralizec
Je speelt nu zelf mee?
ff iets dat me meteen opvalt:

Quote Originally Posted by Redleg
Andres should be kept alive this night with a promise to inform the town who he was sending the PM's for if he survives the night. If he fails to provide that information as soon as the night phase is done, for the sake of timing, 4 hours after the Night Phase write-up is posted. If he doesn't provide the information we can always vote to lynch him that day or the next, all depending if his information warrants a detective to investigate or not.

But that is just my idea.
Redleg was een van de personen die onze PM's gekregen heeft.
Het is goed mogelijk dat hij GeneralHankerchief heeft vermoord - GH was een van zijn toegestane slachtoffers in de PM.

-Kralizec
I'll translate the Dutch: You're part of the game now? Something that grabbed my attention - the quote from Redleg - Redleg was one of the persons who got our PM's. It's perfectly possible he was the one that killed GeneralHankerchief. GH was one of the victims allowed in the PM.

So, to conclude:

1. Proletariat was eager to cooperate with the mob which means she is a) a Wise Gal b) a townie playing pro-mafia ==> Lynch her
2) I did get the already legendary PM's from Kralizec
3) Redleg has something to explain.


Now, you all know that with the revealing of this information before the night has ended, I risk my life.

So yes I kept this information for myself because I wanted to be 100 % sure pevergreen got lynched. If not by convincing the townies, then by blackmailing.

To prove I'm pro town I don't wait until the night has expired but I give this information now.

Maybe they won't kill me so you'll all start to think I lied. Maybe they are afraid for what else information I might have (which saddenly isn't the case) and they will take no further risk and kill me.

I think I have sufficiently proven my innocence and have been more cooperative towards the town then many of you who are playing this game since the very start.

Yes Louis the Fat, maybe I am a wiseguy, but read the rules carefully and you'll see that a Wiseguy can decide to join the Light Side of the Force. Until now, you have been doing nothing else then spreading wild accusations, meanwhile leaving alot of lurkers at rest... Why?

You also weren't correct about the time I got my role PM.

Instead of speculations and wild accusations, it might be better to come with clear facts.

Only look at the facts and who should be lynched or at least investigated?

- Redleg
- The Stranger
- Proletariat

Add to that this strange event, and we have some people who have to elaborate on some things, namely:

- Byzantine Knight
- Caius Flaminius
- TheStranger
- Stig (a dead wiseguy whose soul needs to confess )


I would like to remind all of you that I suspect a new strategy: spamming this thread so that vital information gets lost and people who don't spend all day behind the pc will miss it and will just jump on the bandwagon. So if I see spamming, I will just copy paste this post as many times as necessary so that everybody has the chance to read it.

I rest my case... for now...