Capo de Tutti Capi - II [Concluded]

[Andres]

I say andres and sigurd are scum

Nice reasoning. Interesting arguments. A solid case

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I think the time has come to post this case:

After seeing chimpyang say in the thread that he'd received recruitment pm's I sent him a pm the exchange went like this:

When you say recruitment pm's do you mean people trying to get you to join a protection group or people trying to get you to join a family?

Sasaki

I guess they are protection groups, however, one offer was for a "private group", leaning towards the ambiguous!

Ok I have an idea. Reply to this person who offered a private group and hint that you are perhaps on the shady side, looking for a mafia group to join. If they say yes then you can infiltrate and expose them in the thread. If they say no, and quote your pm in the thread and say "let's lynch chimpyang he's mafia" I'll back you up and say we set it up as a sting operation. Sound good?

Sasaki

We'll see how the cookie crumbles in this case...I may try this once the day phase has finished...then the lynch effort is delayed.

The result was that he infiltrated this group (some pm's left out here) leading to:

Just as a heads up, Hannibalbarc is in the "private group"..so any investigation will have to take account that he probably took part in the hit on LW yesterday....the others are :

- Zorg
- Xdeathfire
- scottishranger

and me as well...

On my suggestion he post this:

Just as a heads up, Hannibalbarc is in the "private group"..so any investigation will have to take account that he probably took part in the hit on LW yesterday....the others are :

- Zorg
- Xdeathfire
- scottishranger

and me as well...

So, this private group went after taka today? I think it is time to post what you've got, should be enough to lynch xdeathfire and scottishranger.

Sasaki

Also, there are only 3 left now, which means that I think unless we recruit another, no kills can be made. Will let you know ASAP if we do. But the threat is neutered as far as this group is concerned.

Wasn't taka, as far as I know, we went after Caius...Xdeathfire is def a wiseguy at least, he's in charge now....

It's my opinion that thy should be lynched asap, I think a couple kills is enough to promote to made. Sorry to post this without your permission chimp, nice work though.

[Husar]

Quintuple lynch then?

[Caius]

Greetings,

This is the Don of one of the five families.

I have a proposition to make and call a meeting for de Dons.

The Dons of the other four families should contact me via this email:

Don1_CapoDeTuttiCapi@hotmail.com

The meeting of the Dons will be on an external forum where new accounts will be made, one for each Don (the dons register via a link provided).
Send an email using a fresh account, like the one provided above, with answers to these questions where the answers will only be found in the non red sections of your role pm:

1. Your family name – there should only be one of each.
2. The codeword in parenthesis in the first section (Victory conditions)
3. The third word in the first section (Victory conditions)
4. Quote sentence no.1 in paragraph A (General) from the section; Powers & Responsibilities.

If you are not able to answer these questions you will not receive an invitation.
The questions are a precoution against any claimants not being a real Don...

I hope to hear from you...

I cant believe the mafia is being organizated, and we townies are ruining our own lifes.
Why do you kill poor old bald Caius? LEave him alone!

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Quintuple lynch then?

You jest, but if the dons are organizing we may need to do this.

Currently we have:

One of Louis/Husar is mafia (I trust TinCow). I would go with Louis personally, he was really active pro town last game and isn't at all this game, his logic in attacks hasn't been the best and it's somewhat suspicious the way the wagon rolled on for his selection.

ScottishRanger/Xdeathfire: at least one of them needs to go right away, both eventually.

Andres--At best an evil wise guy, probably made or luca, I can't see any pro town wise guy reacting the way he has. He also tried to become mafia the last game where he was a wise guy.

GH-imo not as high a priority as these 4.

Does anyone have the latest tally? Can directors be lynched on a day they aren't up for election? It would be nice to lynch three of these if not four.

[Andres]

Aren't you forgetting Sigurd?

Or are we not going to lynch the only one who got accused of being a Don by the only confirmed innocent detective we have?

[shlin28]

Aren't you forgetting Sigurd?

Or are we not going to lynch the only one who got accused of being a Don by the only confirmed innocent detective we have?

But the only innocent detective DID NOT INVESTIGATE ANYONE! (You are referring to Drisos right?)

Will vote later when I finish reading the posts.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Aren't you forgetting Sigurd?

Or are we not going to lynch the only one who got accused of being a Don by the only confirmed innocent detective we have?

Last game an innocent detective vouched for the wolf. You are using poor reasoning. There are plenty of reasons to be suspicious of Sigurd but this is not one of them. He's on my list (see sig) but not at the top.

[Husar]

One of Louis/Husar is mafia (I trust TinCow). I would go with Louis personally, he was really active pro town last game and isn't at all this game, his logic in attacks hasn't been the best and it's somewhat suspicious the way the wagon rolled on for his selection.

If you trust TinCow then I guess it's Louis, he was coordinating our protection efforts and changed them in the last minute, maybe hoping we wouldn't get our PMs in in time so he could blame us for the failure.
That's why I said he may have led us astray so his buddies could lynch a detective or two. I'm not 100% sure about this though(might be good to know why you trust TinCow) and as long as he is director I guess we won't be able to lynch him anyway.

[shlin28]

Last game an innocent detective vouched for the wolf. You are using poor reasoning. There are plenty of reasons to be suspicious of Sigurd but this is not one of them. He's on my list (see sig) but not at the top.

I dont get your list

[GeneralHankerchief]

If we do not trust Louis then we must remove him from the Director position this day phase. If there's a tie vote, he'll obviously do what's best for him and not the town. Clearly, he won't lynch himself. I suggest getting rid of Louis tonight and then the combo of Xdeath/scottish tomorrow.

QUESTION FOR SEAMUS:

Can we vote to sack a Director on a phase when there's no Director election? Or does he hold his position unless he gets lynched?

Until Seamus answers, I'm going to do a tentative

Vote: Louis VI the Fat

[Crazed Rabbit]

Let's leave Louis off for now - we can only get one lynch at most, not the double or triple we want. As he's director he can choose not to be lynched in the event of a tie.

So Andres, GH, Xdeathfire, sound like good bets for now. I think a triple lynch is the way to go. Lynching Louis removes one disorganizer of protection groups, lynching the others removes active killers.

Oh, and the whole Andres pretending he was a wiseguy thing - wasn't he found guilty, meaning he killed somebody night one? Meaning he is part of the ballet slipper mafia? Since they were the only people who killed Night one.

CR

[Caius]

I do not trust Andres after all. I have my reasons to not to trust him.

[Pannonian]

I do not trust Andres after all. I have my reasons to not to trust him.

Why don't you state them publicly then? You're alive, aren't you?

[Caius]

Why don't you state them publicly then? You're alive, aren't you?

What do you mean?

I forgot to, Vote:Andres

[Sigurd]

I believe a tally is in order: (edit: added Caius' vote)


Andres: 5 (CR, Gibson, Sasaki, TinCow, Caius)
GH: 4 (ajaxfetish, CountA, Proletariat, TruePretorian)
Sigurd: 4 (Husar, Ichigo, Kage, Omanes)
Louis: 1 (GH)
Rythmic: 1 (Kommodus)

Abstains: 5 (hiji, LittleGriz, Sarathos, w&f, Xehh II)
Not voting: 49 !!!

[Caius]

This is in order:
GH: 4 (ajaxfetish, CountA, Proletariat, TruePretorian)
Andres: 5 (CR, Gibson, Sasaki, TinCow, Caius)
Sigurd: 4 (Husar, Ichigo, Kage, Omanes)
Louis: 1 (GH)
Rythmic: 1 (Kommodus)

Abstains: 5 (hiji, LittleGriz, Sarathos, w&f, Xehh II)
Not voting: 48 !!!

[KukriKhan]

So TosaInu, a previously-unlisted player reveals he is a Don, in his single post in-thread. Are there other "surprise" players waiting to spring from the wings?

If so, it makes the task of winnowing out threats even harder.

We've had a few players self-reveal as alleged wise-guys, and one player self-reveal as a detective.

As the only self-admitted Don, I feel I have to:

Vote: TosaInu.

I'll edit-in the vote count here when I find it.
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Just saw Caius's tally, and updated:

GH: 4 (ajaxfetish, CountA, Proletariat, TruePretorian)
Andres: 5 (CR, Gibson, Sasaki, TinCow, Caius)
Sigurd: 4 (Husar, Ichigo, Kage, Omanes)
Louis: 1 (GH)
Rythmic: 1 (Kommodus)
TosaInu: 1 (KukriKhan)

Abstains: 5 (hiji, LittleGriz, Sarathos, w&f, Xehh II)
Not voting: 47

[Sasaki Kojiro]

hmm kukri I think tosa was told by someone else to post that.

[Pannonian]

Tosa's passing on the message for someone else, he's not playing and hence he can't be lynched. We had the same situation with Andres in Capo 1, when he PMed a load of people on Kralizec's behalf.

[Andres]

I think Kukri is well aware of that.

Playing the joker to hide scummy activities?

Vote : Kukrikhan

Let's lynch him. People are dying and he starts making jokes.

[Caius]

Best way to quit himself the suspiction.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I think Kukri is well aware of that.

Playing the joker to hide scummy activities?

Vote : Kukrikhan

Let's lynch him. People are dying and he starts making jokes.

Seriously now? Voting for kukri is your choice given louis, scottishranger, and xdeathfire?

Andres must be lynched today.

[Ferret]

Vote:Sigurd

he's acting very suspicious

[Andres]

Seriously now? Voting for kukri is your choice given louis, scottishranger, and xdeathfire?

Andres must be lynched today.

I was joking

[Charge]

vote: abstain
will let you guys decide who goes to be lynched this time as they all claims that other one is guilty and i'm not a detective

[Sigurd]

Vote:Sigurd

he's acting very suspicious

Please do elaborate...
Did Andres tell you to put that vote on me?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I was joking

Where is the joke?

[Charge]

Tosa's passing on the message for someone else, he's not playing and hence he can't be lynched. We had the same situation with Andres in Capo 1, when he PMed a load of people on Kralizec's behalf.

Should Tosa join then too?

[Ferret]

Andres has never said anything to me in my life, I just voted because you seem to love making tallies and are eager to kill off seemingly innocent people. If someone else looks more suspicious I'll change my vote to them for you