Mafia VIII: Return of the Recommencement of the Revenge of the Mafia [Concluded]

[GeneralHankerchief]

In my opinion, your both trying too hard to stay alive.

That is the goal, is it not?

[Privateerkev]

That is the goal, is it not?

Well, the collective town needs to stay alive. It matters not which individual townies stay alive. Therefore, any specific person who tries too hard to live looks suspicious to me.

[FactionHeir]

I think if this were RL, PK would be going after a Medal of Honor: "As long as humanity lives through my sacrifice, it is worth it"

[Privateerkev]

I think if this were RL, PK would be going after a Medal of Honor: "As long as humanity lives through my sacrifice, it is worth it"

Or Spock in Star Trek. "The needs of the many, outweigh the needs of the few, or the one."

[Crazed Rabbit]

FH is a bit changed from his only recent self-sacrificing talk. Odd, yes. I still think he's a better lynch than Tincow. But a near tie to the end isn't bad. Tincow is seemingly flying below the radar, a far cry from his townie days in Capo II.

CR

[GeneralHankerchief]

There is a small chance that I may miss the 24 hour mark tonight.

If this is the case, then voting will be closed precisely at 20:16 GMT-5 (exactly 24 hours after I sent the WoG warning PMs). If you cast your vote at 20:17, it will not count.

Unless, of course, we're at another tie, but I'll only go into that if I have to.

[Privateerkev]

new page, new tally:

Tincow: 6 (FactionHeir, Sigurd Fafnesbane, CountArach, discovery1, Sasaki Kojiro, shlin28)

FactionHeir: 5 (Gaius Scribonius Curio, Sarathos, makaikhaan, Quintus.J.Cicero, TinCow)

Abstain: 1 (Seamus Fermanagh)

For abstains, I'm just counting those who actually vote "abstain".

[Ferret]

PK reminds me of the Black Hand type people in Hot Fuzz (best film ever), "for the greater good"

[Kommodus]

Vote: TinCow out of respect.

In Netherworld he had me tricked so completely that I resurrected him even after he'd been killed, handing the victory to his mafia faction. He has pulled the wool over the eyes of a hapless town more times than I can count. Maybe this is what's called being a victim of one's own success!

Also, I am sure that if he's really pro-town he'll remain active in order to help the town. Then again, if he's pro-mafia he'll do the same to confuse the town. Like I said, I'll just have to review everything when I get some actual time.

[TinCow]

In my opinion, your both trying too hard to stay alive.

Sorry, but I simply don't share your opinion on the usefulness of townie death. Townies tend to die quietly because people who get roles with no abilities don't tend to care as much about the game. From a strategy standpoint, though, it's not a good move. Letting myself get lynched does not help the town in any way. Indeed, if one of more of the people who are arguing against me are mafia, going quietly actually hurts the town, because it increases the credibility and control of those mafioso. Your whole 'post while still dead' thing is perfectly valid, but at the end of the day a live townie is better than a dead townie because he can vote. I promise you that I will never, ever die quietly, no matter what role I have. It's bad for your side, no matter what side you're on.

[Privateerkev]

Sorry, but I simply don't share your opinion on the usefulness of townie death. Townies tend to die quietly because people who get roles with no abilities don't tend to care as much about the game. From a strategy standpoint, though, it's not a good move. Letting myself get lynched does not help the town in any way. Indeed, if one of more of the people who are arguing against me are mafia, going quietly actually hurts the town, because it increases the credibility and control of those mafioso. Your whole 'post while still dead' thing is perfectly valid, but at the end of the day a live townie is better than a dead townie because he can vote. I promise you that I will never, ever die quietly, no matter what role I have. It's bad for your side, no matter what side you're on.

But instead of working hard to stay alive, you could be looking for mafia. It is something you can do no matter if your dead or alive. It's not about going quietly. It's about what you say before you go down. I spent my last moments alive this game trying to defend Sasaki. A move I am now coming to regret. But at the time, that is what I thought I could do to help.

Your right that a live townie is better than a dead townie. But a live townie who is trying too hard to live seems more like scum than a townie.

Plus what your telling me now is contradicting a PM you sent me in Taormina. You told me then that you were town and your life didn't matter because you served the town. And this is before you got recruited into Yakuza. Now all of a sudden your life matters? Why the change of heart?

[TinCow]

Because if I ever go quietly, it will be a change in my pattern of behavior which will be easily recongizable. That makes me easier to ID when I have a role in a game. Regardless of what I said to you privately in Taormina, I would have resisted a lynch if one had seemed likely.

[Privateerkev]

Because if I ever go quietly, it will be a change in my pattern of behavior which will be easily recognizable. That makes me easier to ID when I have a role in a game. Regardless of what I said to you privately in Taormina, I would have resisted a lynch if one had seemed likely.

Ironically, I found that PM to be quite inspiring. I didn't use it that game, because I was mafia, but it has guided my actions for this game.

Now that it seems your going to be lynched, would you mind finally giving us your reasons for voting against FH?

new tally:

Tincow: 7 (FactionHeir, Sigurd Fafnesbane, CountArach, discovery1, Sasaki Kojiro, shlin28, Kommodus)

FactionHeir: 5 (Gaius Scribonius Curio, Sarathos, makaikhaan, Quintus.J.Cicero, TinCow)

Abstain: 1 (Seamus Fermanagh)

For abstains, I'm just counting those who actually vote "abstain".

[TinCow]

I gave my reasons a long time ago: his change in behavior. Ironically, I actually think Sasaki is now a better lynch, but that's no longer an option for me. I would urge against a knee-jerk FH lynch next round if he survives. Keep pressure on him, but don't lynch him just because he was today's other option.

[Joe Monks]

Vote:Tincow

I reckon he is probably not Mafia - but just to be sure. Also I am not Mafia.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Unlike Sasaki, I don't believe either is mafia this time.

What a wretched scenario.

Unvote: Abstain; Vote Sasaki Kojiro

Note: I am aware that this vote is invalid. I lodge it to send a message, not to vex GH.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Voting over.

Stand by for the execution.

(Seamus's vote is doubly invalid because it was made for Sasaki and it was cast after the time limit. This, unfortunately, means auto-WoG.

[KukriKhan]

Voting over.

Stand by for the execution.

(Seamus's vote is doubly invalid because it was made for Sasaki and it was cast after the time limit. This, unfortunately, means auto-WoG.

Nevertheless, I, too, vote: Sasaki











and accept my fate.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I'm not mafia.

[KukriKhan]

I'm not mafia.

To quote an Irishman:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

To quote an Irishman:

To quote our detective, whoever he may be:

[KukriKhan]

To quote our detective, whoever he may be:

:) Indeed. That guy ought to contact somebody he trusts pretty soon to run interference for him.

I'm gonna be pretty pissed if either TinC or FactH turn up maf - fooled again, as it were. But I don't see it so far, for either. The other board reveal, at the end, ought to be interesting.

Farewell M8, I'll try to assist as I can.

[GeneralHankerchief]

It had been a long evening. Chief of Police Beirut, desperate to get home in time to watch his favorite television program (Parking Wars), was mortified to learn that there had been a tie vote and that voting was to thus be extended. Several times he had been fingering his pistol, itching to take it out and blast both "finalists" just to end this thing.

"After all, they're probably both guilty," he mused. "I'm doing the town a favor." But of course, he didn't shoot, as if restrained by some unspoken force, some overser of the town.

Eventually, things finally sorted themselves out (after Parking Wars had finished, of course), and TinCow, lawyer extraordinare, was determined guilty of killing several citizens of the Kingdom of Peace and Love.

"TinCow," Beirut said, "You are hereby found guilty of murder, which, by the state of New Jersey Code of Criminal Justice, falls into the category of 2C:11-2: Criminal homicide." TinCow suddenly started sweating bullets as Beirut pulled out a stack of papers and began reading.

"Criminal homicide, defined as when a person is guilty if he purposely, knowingly, recklessly or, under the circumstances set forth in 2C:11-5, which I will address at a later time, causes the death of another human being. Criminal homicide is divided into subcategories of murder, manslaughter, or death by auto, the charge of murder having already been specified in your case in the first paragraph of my monologue."

The crowd already started filing away. They wanted blood, not somebody droning on and on about somebody's crime! This was highly unlike Beirut.

"Section 2C:11-2.1," Beirut said, "Murder. Now, according to the aforementioned New Jersey Code of Criminal Justice, which doesn't even really apply here but it's the first code I could get my hand on, criminal homicide constitutes murder when:

(1) The actor, in this case being you, purposely causes death or serious bodily injury resulting in death; or

(2) The actor, again, being you, knowingly causes death or serious bodily injury resulting in death; or

(3) It is committed when the actor, still you, acting either alone or with one or more other persons, is engaged in the commission of, or an attempt to commit, or flight after committing or attempting to commit robbery, sexual assault (doesn't really apply to you, or at least I hope it doesn't), arson, burglary, kidnapping, carjacking, criminal escape or terrorism perusant to section 2 of P.L.2002, clause 26 (C.2C:38-2), and in the course of such crime or of immediate flight therefrom, any person causes the death of a person other than one of the participants; except that in any prosecution of this subsection, in which the defendant was not the only participant in the underlying crime, it is an affirmative defense that the defendant... I'm just going to skip over this part because it doesn't really apply since this isn't a proper court per se, so we'll just move onto...

(4) ...any person convicted under subsection a.(1) or (2) who committed the homicidal act by his own conduct; or who as an accomplice procured the commission of the offense by payment or promise of paymentof anything of pecuniary value, pecuniary defined by dictionary.com as an adjective; 'of or pertaining to money'; or who, as a leader of a narcotics trafficking network as defined in N.J. Section 2, Clause 35-3, and in furtherance of a conspiracy enumarated in N.J. Section 2, Clause 35-3, commanded or by threat or promise solicited the commission of the offense, or, if the murder occured during the comission of the crime of terrorism, any person who committed the crime of terrorism, shall be sentenced by the court to life imprionment without eligibility for parole (for our purpose, we'll change this section to read 'immediate execution'), which sentence shall be served in a maximum security prison (again, this will be changed), if a jury finds beyond a reasonable doubt that any of the following aggravating factors exist:

(a) The defendant has been convicted, at any time, of another murder. This is you, since you've killed multiple people. For purposes of this section, a conviction shall be deemed final when sentence is imposed and may be used as an aggravating factor regardless of whether it is on appeal;

(b) In the commission of the murder, the defendant purposely or knowingly created a grave risk of death to another person in addition to the victim;

(c) The murder was outrageously or wantonly vile, horrible or inhuman in that it involved torture, depravity of mind, or an aggravated assault to the victim (I think the one where you ran over TevashSzat twice before shooting him twice at point-blank range with a shotgun qualifies here);

(d) The defendant committed the murder as consideration for the receipt, or in expectation of the receipt of anything of pecuniary, again defined by dictionary.com as an adjective; 'of or pertaining to money'; value;

(e) The defendant procured-"

"TOO... MUCH... LAW!!!"

"Er, procured... the commission..."

But Beirut's continued droning had become inaudible over TinCow's screaming. Having studied and practiced law all of his adult life, he had finally snapped, declaring "enough" when having a point-black definition of his alleged crime directed at him. Shaking and sweating all over, his hands had moved up to his head, where, after seemingly little effort, TinCow ripped his own ears out in order to make it stop. His head quickly turning into a multiple-spouted red fountain, he reached over to Beirut, wrenched the gun out of his holster, and blasted it at the general direction of himself, not really bothering to aim it. He pulled the trigger again and again, just trying to make contact with something that would end the pain, and finally fell over, dead, after many shots fired.

Beirut quickly got over his shock and addressed the crowd.

"Well," he said, trying to find the right words, "Let this be a lesson to how powerfully boring law can be. Best if you don't get into it at... oh, my Lord..."

Beirut had then noticed what had happened to TinCow's errant shots. They had miraculously connected with four people's heads, and Mithrandir, Fenring, Lord Winter, and georgeman51 were all on the ground, dead, along with |Sith|R|AntiWarmanCake88, who had inexplicably committed seppuku."

"Uh... I hope to God that one of them was mafia," Beirut said. But in his mind, he was thinking that he was going to have to clean this mess up, and he wouldn't even get home in time to view the late-night episode of Parking Wars.

Day 4a tally:

TinCow: 8 (FactionHeir, Sigurd Fafnesbane, CountArach, discovery1, Sasaki Kojiro, shlin28, Kommodus, Joe Monks)
FactionHeir: 5 (Gaius Scribonius Curio, Sarathos, makaikhaan, Quintus.J.Cicero, TinCow)

Abstained: 1 (KukriKhan)
Sasaki Kojiro: 1 (Seamus Fermanagh) (invalid) (now on double-secret probation)
Didn't vote: Everyone else.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Still alive: (21)
Ichigo
RoadKill
TinCow
shlin28
makaikhaan
Sasaki Kojiro
Sigurd Fafnesbane
Caius
Gaius Scribonius Curio
Sarathos
Beefy187
Tiberius of the Drake
KukriKhan
CountArach
Kommodus
Rythmic
Seamus Fermanagh
Quintus.J.Cicero
Kagemusha
discovery1
FactionHeir
Joe Monks

Suicide/Wrath of God:
|Sith|R|AntiWarmanCake88
Mithrandir
Fenring
Lord Winter
georgeman51

Killed:
Tratorix
Omanes Alexandrapolites
Andres
Craterus
LittleGrizzly
TevashSzat
Crazed Rabbit
woad&fangs

Executed:
Privateerkev
Elite Ferret
peverpink
TinCow

PMs please.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

overser
perusant
paymentof
enumarated
occured
comission
imprionment

The underlined words...

missing E
Missing space
Missing R
Missing M
Missing S

should be enumerated
perusant is fine i think

So could enumarated be missing E, added A?

[Sarathos]

Hows that missing letters going btw, I thought everyone agreed that is was only a distraction...

[FactionHeir]

You missed:

extraordinare - extraordinaire (missing I)
perusant - pursuant (major misspell)
carjacking - car jacking (missing space)

[woad&fangs]

I think the word "civilians" can be spelled out with the missing letters now.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Hows that missing letters going btw, I thought everyone agreed that is was only a distraction...

It's night time...

You missed:

extraordinare - extraordinaire (missing I)
perusant - pursuant (major misspell)
carjacking - car jacking (missing space)

Your right about extraordinaire, (firefox dictionary doesn't have it). Pretty sure carjacking is one word though. Perusant I was guessing was some sort of legalese, guess not.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

"pursuant" is a classic legal-speak word. Sentence structure/content preclude "perusal" (the only other word close to the mis-spelling).

"carjacking" can be rendered as one word or two connected by a hyphen.


GH:

Thank you for your forbearance. It was not, indeed, my intention to remove myself from play.



The Clock Ticks:

19 [will be soon]n, 18d, 16n, 15d, 13n, 12d, 10n, 9d, 7n, 6d=mafia victory.

5 missed lynches = a loss.

1 correct lynch, past or future, adds; 4n, 3=mafia victory.

Woggings would shorten this. If anybody else appears close to a wog, we should cajole/abuse them to some level of activity so as not to over-shorten our time.

[GeneralHankerchief]

GH:

Thank you for your forbearance. It was not, indeed, my intention to remove myself from play.

What, the devilish smiley and the use of the phrase "double-secret probation" didn't tip you off?