Looks like everything turns out exactly how I want it.

[Fragony]

Of course mr Wilders and his Triumph. Or the other way around as some would have it. I think that if you want to see peaceful coexistance one should keep an eye on our little piece of europe. Since the existance of that movie was leaked the multiculti-left has made an absolute fool out of theirselves, as much as I detest them even I am starting to feel sorry for them, it's a miracle they have been able to hijack the debate for so long so succesfully by just moral intimidation. The existance of this stupid little movie that just might be offensive has lead to some very interesting reactions from the establishment, but none of them are from the muslims who's passive reaction must be a bit confusing to that same establishment who couldn't be dragged out of the mosks where they were busy insisting it really wasn't them and they aren't to blame. Funny thing is that other parties are just dying to surf this wave, even the social democrats or the dhimmi-party as we call them is kinda stuck between blind multiculturalism and cautious common sense. The (extreme leftist) animal party protested against halal butchering because there is no sedation. Leftist champions are openly critisised on tv. New times, better ones, something is happening here and Frag is happy.

[ICantSpellDawg]

Yippee!!!

[Goofball]

Sorry, what are you talking about?

[ICantSpellDawg]

I think that he's talking about the inevitable "fed up" feeling that people invariably get over policies that take chunks out of human nature and show themselves as unworkable over time.

Whether those policies subvert sexuality, anger, greed, violence, compassion, intellect, ignorance, etc.

He is using the "rightening" situation in the Netherlands as an example, I believe.

[Vladimir]

I think he's just drunk with power.

[Samurai Waki]

Or Schnapps...

[Kaidonni]

Of course mr Wilders and his Triumph. Or the other way around as some would have it. I think that if you want to see peaceful coexistance one should keep an eye on our little piece of europe. Since the existance of that movie was leaked the multiculti-left has made an absolute fool out of theirselves, as much as I detest them even I am starting to feel sorry for them, it's a miracle they have been able to hijack the debate for so long so succesfully by just moral intimidation. The existance of this stupid little movie that just might be offensive has lead to some very interesting reactions from the establishment, but none of them are from the muslims who's passive reaction must be a bit confusing to that same establishment who couldn't be dragged out of the mosks where they were busy insisting it really wasn't them and they aren't to blame. Funny thing is that other parties are just dying to surf this wave, even the social democrats or the dhimmi-party as we call them is kinda stuck between blind multiculturalism and cautious common sense. The (extreme leftist) animal party protested against halal butchering because there is no sedation. Leftist champions are openly critisised on tv. New times, better ones, something is happening here and Frag is happy.

Here in the UK, that revolution is yet to happen. White males can now be discriminated against in favour of women or ethnic minorities. Heck, didn't our political leaders say that we need more women and ethnic minorities in Parliament? I mean, come on, pick the person who is best for the job, screw everything else. If I found I was declined a job because I was a white male, I'd make a very loud noise about it. Maybe it'll spread, Fragony, and political correctness and bending over backwards for minorities will be defeated once and for all. Heck, a Muslim was paid benefits for polygamy which is ILLEGAL here in the UK...it's gotta stop some time. I have no qualms with tolerating those who are different, but they will integrate and respect the values of their host country - or else.

Nah, I'm not drunk, guys. But it has been over three hours since my last cup of tea...maybe I'm suffering the same affliction?

[Goofball]

I think that he's talking about the inevitable "fed up" feeling that people invariably get over policies that take chunks out of human nature and show themselves as unworkable over time.

Whether those policies subvert sexuality, anger, greed, violence, compassion, intellect, ignorance, etc.

He is using the "rightening" situation in the Netherlands as an example, I believe.

Man, I need to work on my reading comprehension.

I thought he was telling a dirty joke about surfer chicks at beach parties...

[ICantSpellDawg]

Man, I need to work on my reading comprehension.

I thought he was telling a dirty joke about surfer chicks at beach parties...

What is Frag usually going on about? How multiculturalism is a failure and how it is destroying the social experiment in the Netherlands.

When he says that he is happy that the tides are turning as leftist champions are being scorned on the airwaves, I'd assume he means that the tide is changing - less tolerance for hostile foreign influence coupled with less tolerance for bad social ideas in general.

Nederlanders are becoming more "conservative" or at least less socialist. What do I know? I'm just a stupid Amerikaaner and I've never been to Holland.

[Tribesman]

Hilarious Frag , I could have sworn you were completely outraged when you started a topic moaning about the imans telling people to ignore the film

[Fragony]

Hilarious Frag , I could have sworn you were completely outraged when you started a topic moaning about the imans telling people to ignore the film

No I was completily outraged when governmentmuppets begged asked the imams to keep their lot down. Idiotic displays of dhimmitude like that are growing less popular. Enough with the special treatment seems to be the tune of the day. Every idiotic anti-wilders campaign turned into a complete faillure, the multiculti's are a in total shock because calling everyone who doesn't agree with them a racist or an islamophobe just doesn't rally the masses anymore, makes their attempts to demonise all the more laughable. Time to grow up and start solving problems.

What do I know? I'm just a stupid Amerikaaner and I've never been to Holland.

It's a pocket-USA you will love it, we are basicly your naughty cousin.

[Tribesman]

Hey Frag ,if there wasn't riots everywhere doesn't that mean that it was Wilders who was the failure , his stated intention was to provoke violence wasn't it .

[Fragony]

Hey Frag ,if there wasn't riots everywhere doesn't that mean that it was Wilders who was the failure , his stated intention was to provoke violence wasn't it .

We don't know what the movie is about, I doubt there is a movie at all, we are getting close to 1 april. It's a triumph either way, if there are no riots the establishment will be exposed being the scared little chickens they are, if there are riots multicultists will have a wonderful time explaining why we have to adore all this.

[Banquo's Ghost]

Does the 1st of April have the same tradition in Holland as in more Westerly places?

[Fragony]

Does the 1st of April have the same tradition in Holland as in more Westerly places?

Yup. Would be a good one no?

[CountArach]

Yup. Would be a good one no?

Bloody hilarious...

Very bloody...

[drone]

Is this movie the reason OBL sent in a video addressing EU leaders?

[Husar]

I heard on the radio about an audio tape where he supposedly says all of Europe will have to bear some consequences or so, but they said it may not even be him as he may already be dead.

Don't really know why he would want to bomb me but if it makes him happy...

[Fragony]

Is this movie the reason OBL sent in a video addressing EU leaders?

No, that's about the danish cartoons, they reprinted them as an act of solidarity with the cartoonist, some nutjobs tried to send him to hallalistan, one big screw you.

some more on movie, interview on FOX

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0jUuzdfqfc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0W6t...eature=related

Uncle Osama's beard is probably gonna be on fire

[Kralizec]

If all this does turn out a April 1st joke, in a way it will be the best one ever. Wilders will have made his point without actually showing anything provocative.
Balkenende (our PM) would be the fool of the century. His "handling" of this situation so far is an embarassment to the entire country. Stressing that Wilders is acting entirely on his own is one thing, running around like a headless chicken and warning everyone about the apocalypse is another.

Some MP's (including the Green party!) have offered Wilders the chance to publish his film in the House of Parliament, because he couldn't afford the security costs to do it elsewhere. He declined, wich is a damn shame- I'd have loved to see Balkenende's reaction!

[Adrian II]

[..] his stated intention was to provoke violence wasn't it .

It never was, at least not that I know of.

His stated intention is to tell the truth about Islam as he perceives it: a threat to civilization. Whatever else moves him, I wouldn't know. I would speculate that fear, coupled with his forced personal isolation for the last two years, goes a long way toward explaining the phenomenon. Which is not to say that the film will be bad, after all I haven't seen it...

[Fragony]

I would speculate that fear, coupled with his forced personal isolation for the last two years, goes a long way toward explaining the phenomenon. Which is not to say that the film will be bad, after all I haven't seen it...

Well at least that is more sound then the pathetic speculation that he was in love with a girl and that she runned of with a muslim. It is my opinion that he's flogging the wrong donkey but as far as I am concerned in the end the result is the same so power to him. If he succeeds in breaking the back of the absolutily terrified I will just not have to vote for him.

[Vladimir]

Does the 1st of April have the same tradition in Holland as in more Westerly places?

Thank you generous host ghost! Makes me realize how much I like the Dutch and their funny wooden shoes.