RPG with real time fighting

[Peasant Phill]

Last timr I was on this particular part of the .Org I asked what RPGs had some great stories behind them. It ended up with a list of some classic games like baldurs gate. I ended up playing Icewind Dale II (also on the list) because that game was the first I cols find (in my library). I liked it, although I didn't got to finish it.

Recently I played Jade Empire (special edition) and Vamire: masquerade. I both prefered them over Icewind Dale and other 'classic' RPG's because of there real time fighting (no turns). Are there other games you would recommend keeping in mind that I also like an immersive plot and a good developement system (think development by choices rather then ditributing points).

I previously considered Knigths of the old republic II (although it probably has some hidden form of turn based combat) until I saw it here in the 'worst game thread'.

As always, many thanks in advance.

[Pannonian]

Planescape: Torment? Its fighting is done realtime, the character development is diverse, the characters have character, and its plot isn't considered a weakpoint.

[Geoffrey S]

Don't worry about Knights of the Old Republic - in my opinion it fits more in the opposite from the 'worst games' topic. Great game, doubly so if you like Star Wars.

Technically, Mass Effect too, though the jury's out on that one...

[Crazed Rabbit]

There's Mount and Blade, of course, though that is very low on plot. There are mods that add a lot of storyline, but the main campaign is very open ended.

Character development is also on the low end. It's strong suit is the fighting. The demo is free if you want to try it.

CR

[Tratorix]

Knights of the Old Republic is a great game. I wouldn't say the combat is great, but it keeps the game flowing well and it has an excellent story.

Mass Effect I would also recommend, though it is a bit short for an RPG. About the same length as Jade Empire, maybe a bit longer.

[Veho Nex]

Diablo!!! and Diablo II!!!!!

[Lehesu]

Morrowind, or Oblivion, if that's your cup of tea.

[Xiahou]

Tales of Symphonia?

[Whacker]

Morrowind, or Oblivion, if that's your cup of tea.

Those aren't RPG's.

Also, I gotta disagree wholehearted about the other thread's comments on KOTOR2. Yeah, it was incomplete in a lot of ways, and the bugs were pretty ugly, but all in all it was still a very good game. Hopefully the fan patch will fix most of these, if they ever finish it. I you like Star Wars it's definitely worth a shot.

[Tratorix]

Also, I gotta disagree wholehearted about the other thread's comments on KOTOR2. Yeah, it was incomplete in a lot of ways, and the bugs were pretty ugly, but all in all it was still a very good game. Hopefully the fan patch will fix most of these, if they ever finish it. I you like Star Wars it's definitely worth a shot.

It also had a poorly put together story that tried(and failed) to have a big twist at the end, but just ended up coming off as obvious. Most of the characters were either boring or recycled from the first game. It was ridiculously easy, even more so than the first which wasn't terribly difficult. Not to mention the ridiculous amount of bugs . Sorry if i'm kinda dragging this off topic. To summarize: KOTOR= KOTOR 2=

[Raz]

Those aren't RPG's.

If they're not, then what is?
I'd call 'em RPG's.

You could also try the Gothic series.

[Fragony]

Fable perhaps, bit lite but fun. Closest to Jade Empire I can think of.

and its plot isn't considered a weakpoint.

Oh boy. Such an excellent haunting story.

[rajpoot]

KOTOR2 is nice, go for that.
But even better is Mount and Blade, nothing is as satisfying as ramming your enemy with a couched lance.

[Peasant Phill]

Don't worry about Knights of the Old Republic - in my opinion it fits more in the opposite from the 'worst games' topic. Great game, doubly so if you like Star Wars.

Technically, Mass Effect too, though the jury's out on that one...

Knights of the Old Republic is a great game. I wouldn't say the combat is great, but it keeps the game flowing well and it has an excellent story.

Mass Effect I would also recommend, though it is a bit short for an RPG. About the same length as Jade Empire, maybe a bit longer.

I mistyped, I actually meant KOTOR 2. I read that KOTOR 2 had some more options about character development. KOTOR would really push you towards good (more options that way, more or beter compagnions, ...) while KOTOR 2 provides equal chances both ways with alot of gradations on each side.

I looked 'Mass Effect' up and apparently it hasn't been released yet on PC. It looks interesting though.

Planescape: Torment? Its fighting is done realtime, the character development is diverse, the characters have character, and its plot isn't considered a weakpoint.

It's from 1999, right? I'm looking for something newer.

KOTOR2 is nice, go for that.
But even better is Mount and Blade, nothing is as satisfying as ramming your enemy with a couched lance.

There's Mount and Blade, of course, though that is very low on plot. There are mods that add a lot of storyline, but the main campaign is very open ended.

Character development is also on the low end. It's strong suit is the fighting. The demo is free if you want to try it.

CR

It really looks interesting. But I realy like a good story line that keeps me focussed otherwise I lose interest quite fast. It's on my maybe list.

Diablo!!! and Diablo II!!!!!

I would prefer something a bit more recent.

Morrowind, or Oblivion, if that's your cup of tea.

I've played Oblivion for a little bit at a friends place. I quite liked it, especially the way your experience at certain skills would grow by using those skills. The downpoint of the game is the high requirements (I don't know if I could run it at home) and the lack of clear goals which starts to bore me in the end.

Tales of Symphonia?

Not a PC title.

You could also try the Gothic series.

Gothic 3 is on my maybe-list. I'm a bit discouraged by the fact that the fights are nothing more than button mashing.

Fable perhaps, bit lite but fun. Closest to Jade Empire I can think of.

Oh boy. Such an excellent haunting story.

Iv'e seen this game in my local library. I took a quick look but I noticed it had 'classic japanese' turn based battles which was enough for me to put it back on the shelf.

Also, I gotta disagree wholehearted about the other thread's comments on KOTOR2. Yeah, it was incomplete in a lot of ways, and the bugs were pretty ugly, but all in all it was still a very good game. Hopefully the fan patch will fix most of these, if they ever finish it. I you like Star Wars it's definitely worth a shot.

It also had a poorly put together story that tried(and failed) to have a big twist at the end, but just ended up coming off as obvious. Most of the characters were either boring or recycled from the first game. It was ridiculously easy, even more so than the first which wasn't terribly difficult. Not to mention the ridiculous amount of bugs . Sorry if i'm kinda dragging this off topic. To summarize: KOTOR= KOTOR 2=

At the moment I'm still in favor of KOTOR 2 as my next in between game (when I'm bored of MTW and FM2006). I'm all set for a star wars game. Besides the option to play a believable character (not pure good or black but somewhere in between) is very tempting.
It'll be a in between game so I don't mind that it's over quite quick or isn't to challenging. It's even better this way. Just as long as the bugs aren't to game killing.

[Pannonian]

If you're looking for story, I don't think there's any videogame that approaches PST, even though it was made a decade ago.

Have a read.

Edit: Having downloaded a few Fatal Frame videos, I've just realised how good the voice acting was in PST.

[TinCow]

PST is definitely has one of (if not the) best storylines in any game ever made. I'm not sure I would call it real-time combat, though. Along with KOTOR and KOTOR2, it simply uses non-pausing turn-based combat. It's essentially the same combat system as Baldur's Gate and Icewind Dale, but designed to be playable without using pause quite so much. Even so, the attacks occur in 'rounds' and are technically turn based.

[Fragony]

Iv'e seen this game in my local library. I took a quick look but I noticed it had 'classic japanese' turn based battles which was enough for me to put it back on the shelf.

Fable is very much real-time

[FactionHeir]

Hmm you could try the Witcher as well.

[Fragony]

Hmm you could try the Witcher as well.

How on earth did I forget about The Witcher. Yep, that one Peasant Phill. Awesome but it might make your computer cough up blood if you don't have fast memory and dito videocard.

[Peasant Phill]

Fragony I'll take a closer look at Fable when I'm at the library again.

I've noticed the Witcher in the shops. I think I'll wait just a little while and let the price fall a bit.


I expanded a bit on my search for a RPG as an in-between game and I'm in a bit of an dillema. On one hand I have KOTOR 2 with the good story, jedi powers and limited game duration, on the other hand the sweet sweet action of Mount and Blade which unfortinatly doesn't have a lot of story and isn't finished yet.

What should you guys recommend?

[rajpoot]

Buy Mount and Blade, I've bought the one out now, and I can assure you that if you like medieval combat on any level it's worth it, plus you have free storyline mods, and when the game's completed you'll get the upgrade very cheap.
Right now ofcourse it has not storyline at all, but I believe that the combat is staisfying enough till the game's completed and all.

btw, if you couldn't run Oblivion, you certainly won't run Witcher.

[Geoffrey S]

I expanded a bit on my search for a RPG as an in-between game and I'm in a bit of an dillema. On one hand I have KOTOR 2 with the good story, jedi powers and limited game duration, on the other hand the sweet sweet action of Mount and Blade which unfortinatly doesn't have a lot of story and isn't finished yet.

Well, have you played KOTOR 1 yet? If so, and you enjoyed it, go for KOTOR 2 - though if you have some patience, it looks like a massive unofficial patch recreating a lot of important cut content is nearly done for that one. If not, certainly get KOTOR. Both are quite long games.

[Raz]

As Fragony said, Fable is definitely real-time and probably isn't in Japanese as it is a Microsoft Games development.

The PC version (also on XBox obviously as it is produced and developed by Microsoft) is fully titled: Fable: The Lost Chapters. The thing with Fable is that it's character development isn't too crash hot. You can't play as a female for instance and there are numerous bugs in it (though I haven't patched my version, there could be a patch for it). With bugs however, they're not really bugs if the player doesn't exploit them.


On Oblivion: I recommend this site. I also recommend bookmarking it for later use. =D

[Baby Boomer]

As stated Mount&Blade is worth its money.

Though not exactlly exciting at Vanilla it provides a new game for every new mod.
History Mods:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Depending on era's your into:
Galipolii Mod: A WWI mod.
Liberty or Death!: I loved this one (Only for .808) A American Revoulutionary one.
Greek Wars (Except with fancy name): About the late BC wars of Greece
Renaisancce: Not exactly Renaissance but close to it.
Dark Ages: Dark Ages
Wild West: Wild West
THat's only history. There are heaps more covering Character development, NPC develpment, soldier rceruiment, Arena fighting, quests, lots more. If you haven't already look around at Taleworld's forums, Cartograhper's Guild for released mods.

KOTOR II is also a good game. Unluckily I have not been fortunate enough to catch I (Though with its high praise undoubtly will) As a newcomer I enjoyed it highly though was disappointed slightly...

Not to put fire on your hopes other Fable supporter's but when it was released for Xbox I remember it got really bad reviews.

[Husar]

As far as Mount&Blade is concerned, you can try it for free up to level 6 and then unlock it by buying a key, no need to buy it right away.

Gothic, as was said, isn't bad either, especially 1 and 2, if you can get 2 with the addon(actually an addin, it adds stuff right into the game/story so install it before you start playing), get that as well. 3 has nice graphics and more freedom in a way but that also results in less of a story, more bugs etc. There are, however, quite a few fanpatches, supported by JoWood and with advanced tweaks from another gaming studio which tweaked the engine etc. haven't tried them myself, but they may well improve the game.

[TinCow]

Fable isn't an RPG. It's a fighting game in an RPG setting.

Well, have you played KOTOR 1 yet? If so, and you enjoyed it, go for KOTOR 2 - though if you have some patience, it looks like a massive unofficial patch recreating a lot of important cut content is nearly done for that one.

Where is the website for the unofficial patch? I'd be interested in replaying KOTOR 2 when it is finished.

[Peasant Phill]

I've downloaded Mount & Blade last night. I've now finished most of the training missions. I seem to have some graphical issues but I'm sure I'm really going to enjoy the game.

I'll hold of playing KOTOR 2 until next time I want a break from my usual games.

[Veho Nex]

Fable isnt turn based....

And Diablo 2 is the best out there until D3 is made, there is still a huge online community but if your going to be a stickler about the years then i recommend the RPG game pack, at your local(or internet) EB games.

[Whacker]

Fable isn't an RPG. It's a fighting game in an RPG setting.

Which is also what Morrowind and Oblivion are, aka Fantasy FPS's. Don't get me wrong, I actually enjoyed them both to some extent, but RPG's they ain't.

Where is the website for the unofficial patch? I'd be interested in replaying KOTOR 2 when it is finished.

http://www.team-gizka.org/

Progress has been very, very, very, very slow the past year. They got close to closing out the bugs on their tracker, then progress literally ground to a halt. It looks like they finally started a closed beta, and more bugs are popping up, but that's some real progress. I doubt it'll be out before summer though, so don't get your hopes up too much.

[TinCow]

Which is also what Morrowind and Oblivion are, aka Fantasy FPS's. Don't get me wrong, I actually enjoyed them both to some extent, but RPG's they ain't.

I agree on Oblivion, and at least somewhat about Morrowind, though I think Morrowind is more of a borderline case. For the record, since this relates back to our previous discussions, I no longer have any faith in Fallout 3. The more I hear from my friends at Bethesda, the more disappointed I get. I'm willing to concede the point to you on that game, even though it hasn't come out yet.