OOC Thread

[GeneralHankerchief]

Okay, right now my disk drive does in fact seem to be working and I do have access to the save. If nothing changes, I will begin proceedings tomorrow as planned.

You guys have no idea how relieved I am at this moment.

[Privateerkev]

I notice in the Status and Orders Thread, that people are telling the Chancellor what specific units to recruit. Correct me if I'm wrong but the Chancellor can recruit what ever he wishes. The thread is just to tell him what he can not disband or move.

Of course people can "ask" the Chancellor to recruit things but he can ignore that.

Do I have the above correct?

[TinCow]

Correct. The SOT (I like that acronym) is as good a place as any for requests, since they need to be given to the Chancellor anyway and the SOT is mainly for the Chancellor's convenience.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Just a heads-up, I will be unfreezing the save this afternoon (GMT -5). Anybody who does not have their preferences up by that time will be ignored. Thanks.

[Cecil XIX]

By the way, GH. I can't speak for everybody, but I hope you don't hold anything back as Chancellor. This is just a ten-turn Civil War, and it's important for us to see the full power of a biased Chancellor for our analysis.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I have a plan, don't worry.

[Privateerkev]

By the way, GH. I can't speak for everybody, but I hope you don't hold anything back as Chancellor. This is just a ten-turn Civil War, and it's important for us to see the full power of a biased Chancellor for our analysis.

You were worried he would hold back?

And don't worry, he'll have some help...

[Privateerkev]

How often does the Chancellor have to check the status thread? Once a "term"? Every turn? Somewhere in between?

In KotR, it seemed that you basically had one chance a term to get your orders in. After that, even if settlements were lost or taken, or avatars died, build queues and army orders were up to the whim of the Chancellor.

If you got your build queue and army order in before voting ended, the Chancellor had to obey it. If you turned in late, or tried to give revised orders, it was his discretion.

Are we doing that now? If I edit my status post, can GH ignore it? Or is he bound to follow it? Does this put too much on the Chancellor to have him check it every turn? I have never been Chancellor so I don't have a good grasp as to what is "too much".

[GeneralHankerchief]

Guys,

I'm very sorry, but I'm going to have to drop out. My disk drive has just decided to stop reading on me. It's been like this for a little less than a week now, and while there were some days where it's worked, it hasn't done squat for the past two days. After searching online, it seems like there's nothing I can do but bite the bullet and get a new one.

I've contacted AussieGiant, and, if he is willing, he will step in and take my place as Chancellor. Those of you who know him from KotR know that he is an extremely competant Chancellor.

This is across the board, meaning I've got to drop out of the Hotseats too. I don't know if this will be fixed in time for me to take part in the Successor game.

Again, very sorry guys. Good luck with your trialling.

GH

[Privateerkev]

That sucks GH. :(

I hope you can get it fixed in time for the Successor game.

[Cecil XIX]

Sorry to hear that GH. Here's hoping you get back quickly.

[Ramses II CP]

You'll be missed GH, come back soon.. Hard drive space tends to be fairly cheap these days, but it's all relative when you're in college. I remember agonizing over whether to purchase the corn chips or the bulkier but nastier ramen noodles.

[Privateerkev]

I remember agonizing over whether to purchase the corn chips or the bulkier but nastier ramen noodles.

I used to purchase all of my Ramen once a month on 10-cent Ramen day. I would bring a 10-dollar bill, fill the cart up with a hundred packs, and then roll it up to a horrified cashier.

[Zim]

That's too bad, GH. I'll miss you here and in the hotseats. Hope you make it back soon.

[The Lemongate]

On a related note, what about the chancellor thread? Is it still up and should I still go grab that save and kick Frankfurt over?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Thanks for the support guys.

Zim: I'll still be around, just not able to play.

Lemongate: I think you'll be okay to take Frankfurt.

[AussieGiant]

Oh boy...I need a moment to think about this.

GH thanks for the vote of confidence.

Can I get back to you all tomorrow?

[deguerra]

sure AG, take your time

[gibsonsg91921]

Yikes GH, you were such a big part of KOTR and the set-up of this game. You'll be missed greatly.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Just an update, OverKnight is going to take over as Louis and TinCow is going to take OK's former role. It should probably get started (finally) tomorrow.

[OverKnight]

I'll be reviewing the threads and the rules, and I'll take a look at the save after work.

We should see some forward progress, though I ask for patience since the rules are new to me as well.

If you have been plotting with GH, unfotunately we're back to a blank slate.

[OverKnight]

Play will continue once I get home from work. Since we have had a rather extended window for "free play", I will take possession of the save once I'm home in ~9 hours.

If you're going to do anything with the save, do it now.

If you're going to update in the SOT regarding orders, build queues and such, do it now. Once I take the save, I will proceed with the information there at that time.

We will make our way through the test game as expeditiously as possible, iron out the rules and then proceed to the real fun, the full blown KotR successor game.

So say we all.

Edit: I just realized I have a three hour training on top of my usual shift. Which means it'll take a bit longer for me to start.

[OverKnight]

Sorry for the triple (!) post, but that three hour training after work turned into five hours and change. I have to be back at work in 10 hours, which means play will be delayed until Tuesday morning EST.

My apologies, but RL has interfered and I want to be clear headed and unrushed when I try to implement this new system. On a positive note, I am caught up on Louis's correspondence and the rules. Once I can get some quality game time, things should go smoothly.

Again, my regrets.

[TinCow]

Not a problem. There's plenty of stuff still to be ironed out with the rules and many of us are still decompressing from KOTR. The Test Game won't take long once it gets rolling anyway, so a delay at the start isn't a big deal.

[TinCow]

I was asked to comment on this post:

How often does the Chancellor have to check the status thread? Once a "term"? Every turn? Somewhere in between?

In KotR, it seemed that you basically had one chance a term to get your orders in. After that, even if settlements were lost or taken, or avatars died, build queues and army orders were up to the whim of the Chancellor.

If you got your build queue and army order in before voting ended, the Chancellor had to obey it. If you turned in late, or tried to give revised orders, it was his discretion.

Are we doing that now? If I edit my status post, can GH ignore it? Or is he bound to follow it? Does this put too much on the Chancellor to have him check it every turn? I have never been Chancellor so I don't have a good grasp as to what is "too much".

I hadn't thought about the timing of build queues and whatnot. Since players can legally change their orders about their army/garrison composition at any time, I assumed the Chancellor would be checking at the start of every turn. A quick scan could show whether anyone had edited their post since the previous turn, so that wouldn't be too onerous a duty. If the Chancellor is thus checking every turn, I see no reason that the other stuff, like build queues, couldn't be changed at any time as well. It might be a good idea to PM the Chancellor if you do, though, to make sure he notices.

If this stuff turns out to be too much of a burden on the player who is the Chancellor, we can tone it down later. That's part of what I want to examine with the test game.

[OverKnight]

I am assuming that if PK and Ignoramus wish to turn the civil war hot, they would have to besiege Dijon during 1146 (the current turn) before assaulting in 1148. If this is the case, we might have our first PvP (well really PvAI of same faction) battle in that year.

Is this true?

[Privateerkev]

I am assuming that if PK and Ignoramus wish to turn the civil war hot, they would have to besiege Dijon during 1146 (the current turn) before assaulting in 1148. If this is the case, we might have our first PvP (well really PvAI of same faction) battle in that year.

Is this true?

Ig has a ballista...

^_^

[OverKnight]

Ah. . .I'll have to remember to study the compostion of our own armies.

So, we have the possibility of a France vs France battle. Since one side would be AI led, how do we handle this?

I'm assuming, since it's player vs AI, either Ignoramus or PK will fight a custom battle reflecting the two armies, including walls, and then show a screen shot of the casualties? It would then be up to me to deduct those losses. First, in the Swabian Civil war, how were units removed? Second, I'm not sure how to implement damage to the town, i.e. holes in the wall and damaged buildings.

[Privateerkev]

A Ballista will have trouble knocking down walls. We'll just blast the gate open. So you won't have to worry about repairing damage.

[TinCow]

All PvP battles in the Test Game are AI Battles for speed and efficiency. That should be taken into consideration in any decision on whether to attack or whether to build siege equipment.

If they are capable of assaulting this turn (by any means other than spies) they can do so. Since I'm taking care of the PvP battles for the Test Game via the AI Battle system, anyone who wants to initiate one should do the following:

1) Move their army adjacent to an enemy stack (or city) in accordance with the rules.
2) Send me a PM telling me they want to attack and initiate a PvP battle.

I will then resolve it by the AI Battle sytem and edit upload a new saved game that reflects the results. Unfortunately, I won't be home from work until late tonight, though, so I cannot resolve any battle in this format until tomorrow night. I don't imagine this will make a difference, though, as this turn they would be assaulting garrisons that cannot be moved or reinforced (I think) by other players. If I am wrong about that, let me know.