OOC Thread

**Ramses II CP** · 05-08-2008, 13:57

Ahh, the trouble with me taking the job is, I'm still involved in a civil war and, in fact, pretty much alone and on the run. If I can give orders to those men who were supposed to be my reinforcements I'm going to order them to instead reinforce Anjou's nobles. So if I became Chancellor and immediately thereafter I died... new election with King Louis holding all the cards.

We're going to have to pick a different person. I have someone in mind, however, which I'll try to discuss with the heads of the respective houses as sure as we're certain it's necessary.

**TinCow** · 05-08-2008, 14:01

Since we're at the point of adding a lot more complexity (and time) to the Test Game, do we want to continue it? We're only playing this to test the rules, so when it ceases to serve that purpose we should end it and prepare for the real game. Does it seem like there is still more to be learned from the Test Game?

**The Lemongate** · 05-08-2008, 14:19

Hum, I must say that though I tried a bit to give life to Raoulet, I wasn't that much into the guy... so I wouldn't mind closing the Test Game now. Or we can continue it.

**Privateerkev** · 05-08-2008, 14:25

Originally Posted by TinCow

Since we're at the point of adding a lot more complexity (and time) to the Test Game, do we want to continue it? We're only playing this to test the rules, so when it ceases to serve that purpose we should end it and prepare for the real game. Does it seem like there is still more to be learned from the Test Game?

I'm happy with what we've learned from it. I say we close it unless we think we can learn more from it. But if others want to continue it, then I will continue to to prosecute a civil war to the best of my ability.

If we do continue the game, does Ichigo's vote count? This thing might come down to the wire so it is important. Can his replacement vote? Do we force him to abstain? It doesn't seem fair that a guy voted after he quit the game.

*edit*

Nevermind, it seems Ichigo's game works and he can keep playing.

**OverKnight** · 05-08-2008, 14:36

Things are some things we haven't vetted in the test game:

Oath-breaking and the fall out from that.

Reorginazation, merging or splitting of Houses and the fall out.

Inheritance

Beheading of former Chancellors on charges of high treason.

Still, I'm eager to get going on a real game. I'm not opposed to learning on the fly.

**Privateerkev** · 05-08-2008, 14:50

It would take forever to test every aspect of the rules. In fact, we've changed the rules since we've started the test game. I think we've got the mechanics of the game "down" pretty good and the rest will shake itself out. Plus, in the real game, we can just pass CA's if we find rules that need tweaking.

**The Lemongate** · 05-08-2008, 15:11

Originally Posted by OverKnight

Reorginazation, merging or splitting of Houses and the fall out.

That was actually in the works with the impeachment.

Though I'm not sure we would've gotten the impeachment done because some ppl probably won't answer, being mostly AFK and all.

**Ramses II CP** · 05-08-2008, 15:23

I feel obligated to point out that even in the test game, where we're playing with throw away avatars and deliberately trying to test the rules, no one was willing to break their oath. The King made repeated attempts including offering to let people start their own house and have a well developed city in Marsellies. I would very much like us to reconsider some of the stability rules to prevent oath breaking in that light. In character considerations will be the number one stability enhancement IMHO.

As far as continuing, I'm not sure there's enough commitment to the avatars to make the wrangling over merging houses really impactful. I still favor some sort of secondary land based nobility system, but I think the general consensus was towards the double count system instead.

Oh, and it seems the primary check on the Chancellor's power is going to be impeachment (As it should be, the Chancellorship is meant to be that pwoerful!). If you're in a conflict with the Chancellor you're going to want to be quite sure you have an emergency session call in your hand, and you might want to count votes ahead of time too, or get ready to surrender.

**Privateerkev** · 05-08-2008, 15:31

Originally Posted by Ramses II CP

I feel obligated to point out that even in the test game, where we're playing with throw away avatars and deliberately trying to test the rules, no one was willing to break their oath. The King made repeated attempts including offering to let people start their own house and have a well developed city in Marsellies. I would very much like us to reconsider some of the stability rules to prevent oath breaking in that light. In character considerations will be the number one stability enhancement IMHO.

I'd argue that apathy was the real reason people didn't break their oaths. No one was very attached to their avatar or the game. In the "real" game, I suspect people will care about their avatar more and take oath-breaking into consideration to further their goals.

Oh, and it seems the primary check on the Chancellor's power is going to be impeachment (As it should be, the Chancellorship is meant to be that pwoerful!). If you're in a conflict with the Chancellor you're going to want to be quite sure you have an emergency session call in your hand, and you might want to count votes ahead of time too, or get ready to surrender.

Yeah, we learned that the hard way.

The Chancellor is powerful but can be brought down if he steps on too many toes.