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    Default Re: Phalanxes Overpowered?

    Don't let the attack value fool you. It has the "spear" attribute, which means it has a penalty against infantry. As a result, they were up-stated to compensate for that.

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    Why in the world is there a -4 penalty when using spears against infantry?

    I'm pretty sure spears were good against infantry.

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    Just the fact that if an swordsman got past the striking distance of the spearman, the spearman will find it hard to win that fight. Though in this game it's generally about formations and spearmen work well in formation, but the developers didn't think so I guess.

    They get +8 against cavalry though, so it's alright.
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    no no ........no more ..........!!! The phalanxes are very well ballanced....

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Wicked
    no no ........no more ..........!!! The phalanxes are very well ballanced....
    Hell no, they are often equal in skill against infantry when flanked or attacked from behind by them.

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    the problem lies in the great flexibility that the RTW engine gives to phalanxes...real life phalanxes couldn't run and change the direction of the pikes so easily

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    Quote Originally Posted by eggthief
    Hell no, they are often equal in skill against infantry when flanked or attacked from behind by them.
    well in my mac campaing my deuteroi and mercenary phalanxes are very easy to beat in hand to hand combat .... not to mention the frontal attacks by other phalanxes ..... they fall like flies

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    Rhomphaiaphoroi > Phalanx in hand to hand combat in all my battles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abou
    Don't let the attack value fool you. It has the "spear" attribute, which means it has a penalty against infantry. As a result, they were up-stated to compensate for that.
    ...except that spear was replaced with light_spear starting with 1.0 (replacing the -4 attack vs infantry with -4 defense vs infantry) but the increased spear attack values were not lowered back.
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    Default Re: Phalanxes Overpowered?

    Quote Originally Posted by mcantu
    ...except that spear was replaced with light_spear starting with 1.0 (replacing the -4 attack vs infantry with -4 defense vs infantry) but the increased spear attack values were not lowered back.
    Can someone else confirm if that's true? Would modding down the attack and increasing defense skill of all light_spear units solve this?

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