Stele #6: Pergamon

[paullus]

The Ptolemies indeed had a complex titulature. They understood their dynasty as "Alexander down to whomever ruled at the time," all of whom (after Alexander, at least) were called "Ptolemaios." The kings didn't self-reference themselves by the place that they ruled, but by their ancestors, so calling them the Ptolemaioi is decently close.

EDIT: here's how Ptolemy III phrased it in the Adoulis inscription, from c. 246, following his invasion of Syria in the 3rd Syrian War.

"Great King Ptolemy, son of King Ptolemy and Queen Arsinoe the Brother and Sister Gods, the children of King Ptolemy and Queen Berenike the Savior Gods, descendant on the paternal side of Herakles the son of Zeus, on the maternal of Dionysos the son of Zeus, having inherited from his father the kingdom of Egypt and Libya and Syria and Phoenicia and Cyprus and Lycia and Caria and the Cyclades islands."

[Majd il-Romani]

out of curiosity, is the Nabataean kingdom gonna be in? I really want it as a faction.

[Ludens]

out of curiosity, is the Nabataean kingdom gonna be in? I really want it as a faction.

The team has not revealed their choices for the new factions yet, apart from Pergamon obviously.

[Che Roriniho]

The team has not revealed their choices for the new factions yet, apart from Pergamon obviously.

Incidently, when's the next Stele?

[Foot]

Soon?

Foot

[abou]

Incidently, when's the next Stele?

Seriously? I mean, we did just release a bunch of historical battles. You think you could wait a month or something before you start inquiring about stelai.

[Hax]

I can understand Che's view of the situation.

He probably thought that there were an EB1 and EB2 team working apart from eachother or something like that.

[paullus]

well, and its not like we aren't working on the next stele right now. If things go well, it could be out before the end of August.

[Foot]

... what paullus means is that "it could be out before the end of August ... 2010!"

Phew! Saved that one, I think.

Foot

[Parkev]

Don't worry about any more Stelai; just spring EB II on us one day; most of us will still be alive.
Or at least half

[Hax]

I fear they might die of a heart attack soon thereafter though.

[Mithridates VI Eupator]

I agree. I'd better get a new life-insurance...

[Che Roriniho]

I can understand Che's view of the situation.

He probably thought that there were an EB1 and EB2 team working apart from eachother or something like that.

No, but it has been 3 months. Not that I'm complaining, as I'm just dipping my toe in modding (One day, I WILL become an EB member! I WILL!), and it's going alright, considering my computer was old when I got it 2 years ago, and to be honest, I'm amazed that any of you can even attempt to make something like EBII. Here's to you!

[Hax]

Alright. No harm done.

[Aromir]

Besides, at the start of EB Attalos hadn't been born.

Hmm to my knowledge the name attalid is not derived from Attalos I, but rather from Attalos the father of Philetaerus, grandfather of Eumenes I and great grandfather of Attalos I, since these 3 rulers are only connected familywise through this "Attalos".

Anyway the person named Attalos that the attalids were named after were dead and gone long before the game starts, so no problem there. If the name kingdom of pergamon or attalids is most suited i really dont know, but seems to me that during this period, rulers put more focus on who they decented from, than what they ruled.

[Oqlanth]

Very good choice...I only wonder about what will Pontos do with this limited space! :(

[bovi]

Struggle?

[Jolt]

Struggle?

That is so ahistorical. Historically, Pontus should quickly wtfpwn everyone in the region and engulf the Black Sea, building up for the mighty battles against AS And Ptolies!

[Oqlanth]

Well...I know it is probably hard to represent Pontos in a game like R:TW or EB...
For example the fall of Sinope to Pontos is in 183 BC. Kings of Pontos tried to take the city before 183 BC but they failed again and again. But you can take easily take it in the beginning! If not...you will have great financial problems!... But Sinope was very strong city-state in her time. Well but i thing with free upkeep possibility (both from cities and permanet forts) this may be solved...
We will wait and see :D

[Elcmar]

Excellent - i had migrated Epeiros as Pergamon before and had a great game - going to be great having them as a proper faction!

[Cyrus]

This is the third thread this week that has been resurrected after more than 4 months of being dead! what is happening?

[Mediolanicus]

This is the third thread this week that has been resurrected after more than 4 months of being dead! what is happening?

Perhaps people are just looking at the EBII previews and saying how much they are looking forward to EBII. I can't see anything wrong with that...

[Cyrus]

No that's not what i meant..... i just said it's the third, not that i'm sick of it happening.

[Elcmar]

Sorry if i contributed to any recent vamping - would have posted months ago, but i only just stopped lurking recently

[QuintusSertorius]

Excellent - i had migrated Epeiros as Pergamon before and had a great game - going to be great having them as a proper faction!

Indeed, I've done the same with EB 1.0, 1.1 and now 1.2. There's something distinctly satisfying about playing as a Hellenistic power centred in Asia Minor and beating all the other Hellenistic superpowers nearby (Seleukids, Ptolemies, Makedonians). Helps that it's a densely populated and resource-rich area, too. Recreating the Thracian Kingdom provides a neat motivation as well, giving expansion a historic underpinning rather than just grabbing land for its own sake. I also like that they're not just another boring "pikemen and heavy cavalry" style of military.

I'm looking forward to playing EB2 as Pergamon a lot more than I might once have anticipated doing a grand historical Roman game. When EB2 finally appears, I'll get round to getting a new machine and buying M2:TW, neither of which I have any reason to own at present.

Yeah, I necro'd this thread, reading it again from the link on the main Previews thread.

[fightermedic]

i don't think there is anything wrong with "necroing" an official preview
so at least all the new guys around get to see the good old stuff from time to time
and this preview is very well written indeed

[vartan]

i don't think there is anything wrong with "necroing" an official preview
so at least all the new guys around get to see the good old stuff from time to time
and this preview is very well written indeed

Plus original authors get to realize that their hotlinked images don't work, such as the lack of a Faction Symbol, and can hence replace them with properly hotlinked and updated images!

[CaesarAugustus]

This act of necromancy astonished me when I realized EBII is over two years old already!

[QuintusSertorius]

Did I read correctly elsewhere that the primary overhand spear/secondary sword bug was still in effect in M2:TW?

[Gustave]

Yes you did. it's not a major issue though.