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    Someone's going to have to get paired with me. That's why I recommend double elimination.

    I don't mind the league idea either. Anything that gets us more games is fine!
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    14 people should be enough, right?
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    I wonder if I can make Csargo cry harder by doing everyone but his ISO.

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    Default Re: Hotseat Tournament

    Yes I think so. Let's get things started.

    TinCow, as you're entirely neutral and an effective umpire and moderator, I would leave it to you to pair us all up or form our groups of three/four.

    We can do the season games first or skip right to a 14 player double elimination tournament.
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    I don't mind being paired with you ATPG!

    I'd rather be bashed in the game by you, then in OOC posts by... ok, so I'll just drop that subject... if I manage to get over it...

    Highly unlikely as I'm not a real nice guy... but sometimes I make an effort

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    Default Re: Hotseat Tournament

    By who?

    send me a pm
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    Default Re: Hotseat Tournament

    All I have is vanilla M2TW patched to 1.3 and SS 4.1 and Kingdoms.

    dling another mod is not an option.
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    I wonder if I can make Csargo cry harder by doing everyone but his ISO.

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    Default Re: Hotseat Tournament

    Thats not an issue, Ichigo. Everyone should have 1.3 installed on their system, so that if it comes down to it we can duel using that.

    I'm utterly sick of 1.3, so if there is an option to take BC or LTC, I want to take it, if my sparring partners wouldn't mind. But again, I'll use 1.3 if necessary.
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    You should have SS 4.1 as well for LotR.
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    I wonder if I can make Csargo cry harder by doing everyone but his ISO.

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    Default Re: Hotseat Tournament

    Yes, but until I play it more, (I've not even done a single campaign) I would feel quite out of my element.

    I would need an entirely new strategy, as blitzing as most factions looks enormously difficult/impossible.
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    SS 6.1 is so much neater anyways. But you need Kingdoms bwahahahaha!

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    I agree with ATPG's bracket. I'll pair people up and draw up the draft rules, which can be discussed before the tournament begins. For the record, I will put ATPG and one other person in the 'bye' bracket. So, whoever has to play him will get the benefit of skipping a round if they win. Seems fair, since you're all so afraid of him.


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    Afraid? Bah! I remember a certain Indestructible Turkish Sultan who didn't quite make it

    But I agree this wasn't the full BlitzMaster trying to crushinate me.

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    Yes, well, it was my first major battle in a player v player game, I was computer controlled, and you did have overwhelming forces.

    That aside, I've done quite well since then.

    EDIT: And I WILL crushinate you. All of you. Under my boot.

    I volunteer The Lemongate to face me in the first round. I have a certain friendly score to settle with him for obliterating my Sultan Kilij Arslan.
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    i hate when parents think its good with a "active" vacation i could play if someone knows how i can set a remote connection from my laptop to my stationary comp.
    next 2 weeks ill be away but after that i should be able to play a couple games

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassu View Post
    i hate when parents think its good with a "active" vacation i could play if someone knows how i can set a remote connection from my laptop to my stationary comp.
    next 2 weeks ill be away but after that i should be able to play a couple games
    Ohh yeah, I remember those Active vacations,
    My parents dragged me camping!, how I missed my computer on those treacherous trips...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TinCow View Post
    I agree with ATPG's bracket. I'll pair people up and draw up the draft rules, which can be discussed before the tournament begins. For the record, I will put ATPG and one other person in the 'bye' bracket. So, whoever has to play him will get the benefit of skipping a round if they win. Seems fair, since you're all so afraid of him.
    Meh, I'll take him on without those preconditions.
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    Default Re: Hotseat Tournament

    Oooh intrigue!

    Lemongate already challenged me, but I can let you guys decide who faces me first.




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    Well, I make no special claim to skill, but I'm not afraid to take on anyone in a fair fight. I mean, really, what's at stake here except fun?

    ooooh, I just noticed I can edit my favorite smilies now! Like I didn't already spend too much time here...


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    Dont be so modest Ramses... You are the only one who has completed my War for Independence Challenge. I still havent found the time to complete it.

    You seem to do very well in hotseats as well... I respect you very much as an opponent and I believe you could beat me.

    But the only one I truly fear is.......
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    Default Re: Hotseat Tournament

    So when is this tournament going to start up anyways? I'm looking forward to it.

    If Tincow is busy, I could pair people up myselfs and draw up the roolz.



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    Default (unofficial) Tournament Rules and Pairings

    Loosely based upon the order in which Tincow posted them in the first post:

    Seed One
    Monk
    Ramses II CP


    Seed Two
    Elite Ferret
    Ichigo


    Seed Three
    rossahh
    Ignoramus


    Seed Four
    Ibn-Khaldun
    Byblos


    Seed Five
    00jebus
    TriforceV


    Seed Six
    turcoman
    AndyNgFL


    Bye Bracket (Seed Seven)
    Askthepizzaguy
    The Lemongate


    Optional Bracket (Seed Eight?)
    Are you guys joining the tournament?
    FactionHeir- expressed interest
    Cassu- cannot play during summer

    ________________________

    Round Two:
    First Division
    Seed one winner versus Seed two winner
    Second Division
    Seed three versus Seed four
    Third Division
    Seed five versus Seed six
    Fourth Division
    Seed seven BYE or versus Seed eight winner (or default player)

    ________________________

    Round Three:
    Semifinal One
    First Division versus Second Division
    Semifinal Two
    Third Division versus Fourth Division

    ________________________

    Final round:
    Semifinal winner One versus Semifinal winner Two

    ________________________

    Main rules:

    Vanilla 1.3, LTC 3.1, or Broken Crescent 1.5 with hotfixes (same version must be agreed upon by both players, Vanilla 1.3 is default.

    Console must be disabled, passwords must be given to TinCow.

    No Crusades or Jihads launched against a human player's province within the first 10 turns. If a human player takes the target city, tough luck for them.

    No hacking or modifying the game files.

    Reloading prohibited, except when opponent agrees for sportsmanship reasons. (Your starting army goes rebel for no reason, for example)

    While choosing neighboring factions is not prohibited, I'd prefer that you get permission from your opponent to choose a neighboring faction. If you insist on that faction, your opponent has a chance to pick again or stand pat.

    Also, if both agree to be neighboring factions, crossing into each other's borders or declaring war on turn one is not allowed (due to unfairness of attacking your opponent before he gets any chance whatsoever to defend).

    Additional:

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    1. Two human players enter a hotseat game, forced autoresolve off, console disabled, password enabled.

    2. The challenger picks the first faction, his opponent picks the second faction. Who goes first is determined automatically by the game (usually the faction on the player select screen furthest to the left… England in Vanilla, however it’s the Turks in Broken Crescent).

    3. In tournament play, a simple game of rock, paper, scissors or a random coin toss can determine who the “challenger” is (who picks first).

    4. The game’s version, mod, and factions must be agreed to by both players prior to the game.

    5. In tournament or official game play, the console must be disabled.

    6. Reloading is discouraged. If you can’t beat your opponent the first time, too bad. However, since reloading cannot be policed, we are forced to go by the honor system.

    There may be extenuating circumstances, such as your largest army going rebel on you against all odds. Ask your opponent permission to redo a turn, and if they value sportsmanlike conduct, they will likely allow you to take back one turn in a match.

    7. General honesty, sportsmanship, and integrity is valued highly. If you dishonour your opponent, you can expect no one else will be willing to face you at a later date.

    8. It is considered bad form to abuse the crusade/jihad system in the following way: Directing a turn 1 (or turn two or three, etc) jihad against a player-controlled faction. If they do not have access to crusades or jihads, it is an unfair tactic. However, if both challengers agree to use crusades or jihads, there are no other restrictions, for example:

    Turn 1 crusades/jihads against AI factions are acceptable.

    Launching a jihad or crusade against the opposing player is acceptable IF they have called a crusade or jihad against either you or the computer-controlled factions.

    In short, if you use crusades or jihads, use them honourably or expect to be counterattacked! Using them against factions who cannot crusade is acceptable only if the opponent agrees.


    9. Only well-known and tested mods can be used for official duels. If you and your friends modified the game in your basement, that is not an acceptable mod for duels unless your opponent agrees to it. It will not be used as part of any official tournaments.


    If the tournament bracket and the tournament rules are agreed upon by those participating, I suggest we begin. I'll wait a few days so everyone gets a chance to read this, and if TinCow has time he can modify the bracket or the rules and resume his volunteer umpire duties at his convenience.
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    Default Re: (unofficial) Tournament Rules and Pairings

    Apologies, I've been very busy in RL and haven't been able to devote much time to the Org. All my free time goes to reading the LotR threads, since that's my major responsibility, and playing GH's latest Mafia game. I have no problems with ATPG taking over organization of this thing. I am still available to act as a neutral umpire of sorts, if one is needed. Just send me a PM, and I'll make sure I deal with whatever needs to be dealt with.


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    Default Re: (unofficial) Tournament Rules and Pairings

    Hmm I thought I was the first to sign up.
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    Default My 2000th post

    Drat.... drat drat drat.

    I was hoping my 2,000th post would be more momentous... but... I had things to add to the rules.

    First of all, happy 5,000th post, TinCow

    Second, some suggested additions to the rules:

    While choosing neighboring factions is not prohibited, I'd prefer that you get permission from your opponent to choose a neighboring faction. If you insist on that faction, your opponent has a chance to pick again or stand pat.

    Also, if both agree to be neighboring factions, crossing into each other's borders or declaring war on turn one is not allowed (due to unfairness of attacking your opponent before he gets any chance whatsoever to defend).


    Also, FactionHeir is in the tournament, and I'm putting him wherever an empty slot is if someone drops out, OR, he's facing the winner of ATPG versus Lemongate, and we'll go from there. If Cassu is available he will face him first though.

    Is everyone ok with this?

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    Default Re: My 2000th post

    TC made his 5000th at the LotR forum btw

    Sounds good to me overall.
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    Default Re: Hotseat Tournament

    I'm tempted to name a couple of prohibited factions. Basically all the ones I've used so far...

    I have to admit I think the Seljuks in Broken Crescent are overpowered enough to make the game unfair in a duel environment. They can claim Baghdad very easily and expand in any direction against all the AI's at once, have the largest starting empire, huge starting forces, have weak neighbors... need I go on?

    I don't want to unilaterally eliminate the Seljuks as a faction without everyone's consent. I think they are fine for a handicap match in a friendly game, but honestly in tournament play I think they are too cheap.

    I'd personally vow not to use them, as that would be patently unfair to my opponent.
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    Default Re: Hotseat Tournament

    I was more thinking along the lines of papal states actually
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    Default Re: Hotseat Tournament

    If you want to use the Papal States, that's fine. Just be warned, you can't call a crusade, and a Jihad will likely annihilate you rather swiftly, after the 10 turn limit.

    I think it would be... how does that song go? Suicidal... Suicidal...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydvQH-teImk





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    Tomorrow ill play my turn but after that ill be on the road for x amount of days (1 - 2 weeks). i might be able to come back when this tournament thingy is ending but cant join you now but hopefully fore the next one or the ending of this one. :(
    Last edited by cassu; 06-10-2008 at 23:28.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy View Post
    If you want to use the Papal States, that's fine. Just be warned, you can't call a crusade, and a Jihad will likely annihilate you rather swiftly, after the 10 turn limit.

    I think it would be... how does that song go? Suicidal... Suicidal...
    It would more or less force your opponent to play a non catholic faction though lest they wish to be excommed for the rest of their lives
    Last edited by FactionHeir; 06-10-2008 at 23:31.
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