Mafia VIII: Return of the Recommencement of the Revenge of the Mafia [Concluded]

[TinCow]

I call BS on this.

So you think that I'm not only a mafioso, but that I actively tried to divert votes towards Ichigo, rather than FH, at a point when it was becoming obvious that either FH or I was going to be lynched? I'm slightly insulted that you think I would do something that dumb.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

So you think that I'm not only a mafioso, but that I actively tried to divert votes towards Ichigo, rather than FH, at a point when it was becoming obvious that either FH or I was going to be lynched? I'm slightly insulted that you think I would do something that dumb.

No, I think you waffled on whether Ichigo was a good lynch and claimed you were joking when pressed on it.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Voting over.

Stand by for the execution.

[GeneralHankerchief]

We have a tie vote between FactionHeir and TinCow. Here's how things are going to go down:

All votes are wiped. The voting round will start again.
All votes must be for either FH or TinCow (or abstain of course).

You have 24 hours, at which time the person with the most votes will be lynched. WoGs will happen at the end of the tiebreaker round.

Day 4 tally:
FactionHeir: 3 (TinCow, makaikhaan, Gaius Scribonius Curio)
TinCow: 3 (Sasaki Kojiro, Beefy187, FactionHeir)
makaikhaan: 1 (Ichigo)*
Kommodus: 1 (Sigurd Fafnesbane)
Sasaki Kojiro: 1 (KukriKhan)
|Sith|R|AntiWarmanCake88: 1 (Kommodus)
KukriKhan: 1 (Rythmic)
Sarathos: 1 (Seamus Fermanagh)
Caius: 1 (Sarathos)*

*Sarathos's vote for khaan is void because he forgot to unvote Caius.

Abstained: 4 (shlin28, CountArach, Kagemusha, Joe Monks)
Didn't vote: Everyone else.

[FactionHeir]

I found it interesting that in Ichigo's meatballing, he took off his vote for TC in time to have me be voted leader until Joe Monks returned the tally to a tie shortly before the end of the voting period. I say there may be some connection there.

vote: TinCow obvious choice for me, but feel free to discuss.

[Gaius Scribonius Curio]

Vote: FactionHeir, more suspicious than Tincow imo.

Edit: You think there may be a connection between Ichigo and Joe Monks? Seriously or are you just trying to draw attention away from yourself?

[FactionHeir]

I'm saying there is one between TC and Ichigo. Please do read my posts.

And as per nature of mafia games, whatever you do or say can (or rather will) be used against you.
Hypothetically:

I vote TinCow and argue that he is more mafia than I am: I am suspicious because I am distracting away from myself and voting the other tied guy.
I vote myself as proof of innocence: Can be construed as mafia tactic.
I don't vote at all: Trying to sit out until the last minute to make a deciding vote

Personally, I don't care if you vote me or not, but obviously anything I do or say (or for that matter TC does or says) won't change anything, because people will read things their own way and have their own ideas.

[TinCow]

No, I think you waffled on whether Ichigo was a good lynch and claimed you were joking when pressed on it.

Are we reading the same post? This is what I am reading:

Ichigo's meatballing is annoying and nonsensical, but it's so bound to attract attention that I think it's unlikely to be mafioso behavior. Too easy to get lynched with that kind of voting, he would be more careful. Then again, he may be a worthy lynch just because it's irritating.

On one side, I am saying that Ichigo is not a good lynch because his behavior is too reckless to be mafioso. On the other side, I am saying that we might want to get rid of him because his voting style is annoying. The first poses an actual argument and substantiates it with reasoning. The second is just flippant. Is that really so hard to see?

[Privateerkev]

TC:

You seem like your too worried about what Sasaki thinks of your actions. If anything, arguing with him is bringing attention to yourself. He has basically been absent from this game but he seems fixated on you for some reason.

If your town, then just let it go. Help us find mafia regardless on whether you get lynched or not. You seem a little too preoccupied with your own survival for my taste.

[TinCow]

TC:

You seem like your too worried about what Sasaki thinks of your actions. If anything, arguing with him is bringing attention to yourself. He has basically been absent from this game but he seems fixated on you for some reason.

If your town, then just let it go. Help us find mafia regardless on whether you get lynched or not. You seem a little too preoccupied with your own survival for my taste.

That's actually what I'm trying to do. Sasaki's arguments have been very flimsy lately and my responses are designed to point that out. Aren't you curious why he has been riding me for most of the game without any substance to back himself up? In the beginning he claimed inactivity, but he has been posting very regularly lately. Whenever I respond, he posts right back just like clockwork. Obviously he's got the time to post, but he's not putting any effort in like he usually does. His excuse is now invalid, yet the behavior remains.

[Privateerkev]

Aren't you curious why he has been riding me for most of the game without any substance to back himself up?

Yes I am...

He has really puzzled me this game. At first, I put it off to real-life busyness. But more and more I'm wondering if he "changed" his personality for this game. If this is true, the question is why?

He knows I played with him recently as mafia in Taormina so he knows I'm clued into how he operates. If he did change his behavior, would he do it if he was a townie? I suspect, that if he was a townie, he would just be his normal inquisitor self. So, my guess is that he is really busy, or he changed his "style" for a reason. This is all really flimsy. But I'm starting to get a bad feeling about him.

But that doesn't let you off the hook either. I can pretty much say the exact same stuff about you. But I doubt your both scum-buddies. He is pushing you way too hard for both of you to be mafia. The main reason your even on the chopping block is because he keeps pushing the issue.

So, I'm starting to suspect one of you is scum but I don't know which.

[Andres]

Are we reading the same post? This is what I am reading:

Ichigo's meatballing is annoying and nonsensical, but it's so bound to attract attention that I think it's unlikely to be mafioso behavior. Too easy to get lynched with that kind of voting, he would be more careful. Then again, he may be a worthy lynch just because it's irritating

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On one side, I am saying that Ichigo is not a good lynch because his behavior is too reckless to be mafioso. On the other side, I am saying that we might want to get rid of him because his voting style is annoying. The first poses an actual argument and substantiates it with reasoning. The second is just flippant. Is that really so hard to see?

The problem with that particular post is that you do not take a position towards Ichigo. Basically, you are saying : "we don't have to lynch him, but then again, maybe we should lynch him."

This kind of avoiding to take a position, as if you are avoiding to step on someone's toes, is typical mafia behaviour