Mafia VIII: Return of the Recommencement of the Revenge of the Mafia [Concluded]

**seireikhaan** · 06-09-2008, 18:53

Originally Posted by Privateerkev

Do you really mean to tell us you have no other suspects other than Sasaki? I said he seemed "off his game", not guilty.

Regardless, it is proving to be a distraction. He is throwing a lot of suspicion on to Kag who might very well be innocent. Townies who distract the town in such a way end up helping the mafia. So they should be lynched. Do not keep them alive or they may very well try to distract the town some more with their bored antics.

Though it makes me wonder why your defending him. Are you protecting your scum-buddy?

Because its a waste of a lynch to take out someone who we are almost certain of is a townsperson. Even an unhelpful townsperson is still a townsperson, and thus, we're only ensuring that we DON'T lynch a mafioso. Now if people had the sense to realize he was being a fool and nothing more, than he wouldn't be a distraction, now would he? That's sorta why I'm trying to get people to realize that he's not a detective, so we can basically tune him out.

**Privateerkev** · 06-09-2008, 18:59

Originally Posted by FactionHeir

Tell you, not tell us. Big difference

And no, I'm waiting for more night kill writeups before making any serious attempt at a vote as currently any vote is more likely to diminish the town's power by lynching innocents unless we have a really strong lead.

Besides, does it matter if I vote pever or someone else today? He's sure to be lynched anyway.

Yes it is important to get everyone talking and adding analysis. If you keep sitting out, you deprive us of not only your analysis, but of the opportunity to analyze your statements.

Originally Posted by makaikhaan

Because its a waste of a lynch to take out someone who we are almost certain of is a townsperson. Even an unhelpful townsperson is still a townsperson, and thus, we're only ensuring that we DON'T lynch a mafioso. Now if people had the sense to realize he was being a fool and nothing more, than he wouldn't be a distraction, now would he? That's sorta why I'm trying to get people to realize that he's not a detective, so we can basically tune him out.

Your right, mafia are priority. But after that, we should move on to unhelpful townies. People who lurk, abstain, or goof off are not making our job easier. So they should go if no better lynch subject arises.

And pever might very well be mafia. I personally doubt it but it is possible. Why are you trying so hard to convince us he is a harmless townie?

**seireikhaan** · 06-09-2008, 19:06

Originally Posted by Privateerkev

Your right, mafia are priority. But after that, we should move on to unhelpful townies. People who lurk, abstain, or goof off are not making our job easier. So they should go if no better lynch subject arises.

And pever might very well be mafia. I personally doubt it but it is possible. Why are you trying so hard to convince us he is a harmless townie?

I'm pretty sure he's not mafia because when he is, he isn't this goofy; rather he tries to be helpful to some degree. When he's not get a role, this is what he has often done; playing for personal enjoyment before trying to help the town win. In Netherworld, when he was mafia, he tried to "help" lead the town in their efforts to win. Here, he's just being deliberately unhelpful; hence, I believe him to be just his regular, unhelpful self.

**Privateerkev** · 06-09-2008, 19:07

Originally Posted by FH

If we keep this back and forth between us, then the real mafia gets a chance to lurk.

Much like you've been trying to do. Well, you've at least been trying to stay "low-key".

As for the lurkers, we'll go after them too if they don't get WoG'd.

Originally Posted by makaikhaan

I'm pretty sure he's not mafia because when he is, he isn't this goofy; rather he tries to be helpful to some degree. When he's not get a role, this is what he has often done; playing for personal enjoyment before trying to help the town win. In Netherworld, when he was mafia, he tried to "help" lead the town in their efforts to win. Here, he's just being deliberately unhelpful; hence, I believe him to be just his regular, unhelpful self.

And therefore, deserving of death.

(OOC: in mafia games that is

)

**seireikhaan** · 06-09-2008, 19:12

Originally Posted by Privateerkev

And therefore, deserving of death.

(OOC: in mafia games that is

)

And that's unfortunately where you're wrong. This is quite fortunate for the town, because we can simply tune him out and leave him be. Why do the mafia a favor and kill someone whom we're quite sure is a regular(even if unhelpful) townsperson. Anytime you can get a near confirmation of innocence, its good because you can turn the lynch to someone who might actually be a mafioso.

**Privateerkev** · 06-09-2008, 19:16

Originally Posted by makaikhaan

And that's unfortunately where you're wrong. This is quite fortunate for the town, because we can simply tune him out and leave him be. Why do the mafia a favor and kill someone whom we're quite sure is a regular(even if unhelpful) townsperson. Anytime you can get a near confirmation of innocence, its good because you can turn the lynch to someone who might actually be a mafioso.

If you have a better target, I'd like to hear it. And I'm not convinced yet by the arguments against Tiberius.

Pever distracted the town and tried to throw suspicion on Kag, who might very well be innocent. We should let him live because?

Though I still keep wondering why your fighting this so hard...

**Craterus** · 06-09-2008, 19:20

Originally Posted by Privateerkev

Though I still keep wondering why your fighting this so hard...

Why are you?

Even you don't think pever is mafia so why lynch him? The aim is to lynch the mafia so there's little point in lynching someone who is believed to be innocent. Thus, may as well lynch another possibly-more-helpful, but possibly mafia, 'townie'.

**seireikhaan** · 06-09-2008, 19:21

Tiberius blatantly ignored previous data given in two different posts to lodge a quick vote before soon disappearing into the background again to lurk. Further condemning, he completely mischaracterized CR's vote in an attempt to justify his own vote. What part of that do you not feel is scummy?

Btw, I could say that you're trying awfully hard to make sure pever DOES get lynched. The pendulum swings both ways.

**FactionHeir** · 06-09-2008, 19:07

Originally Posted by Privateerkev

Yes it is important to get everyone talking and adding analysis. If you keep sitting out, you deprive us of not only your analysis, but of the opportunity to analyze your statements.

I don't think you can argue that I have not contributed towards the town

If we keep this back and forth between us, then the real mafia gets a chance to lurk.

Originally Posted by Privateerkev

Your right, mafia are priority. But after that, we should move on to unhelpful townies. People who lurk, abstain, or goof off are not making our job easier. So they should go if no better lynch subject arises.

And pever might very well be mafia. I personally doubt it but it is possible. Why are you trying so hard to convince us he is a harmless townie?

Because he is a townie.