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    Quote Originally Posted by Andres
    My dear colleague. There's no need to be rude. I asked a simple enough question. Please answer it.
    By my count, your house has at least two members seconding this legislation, and several others, some of whom have declared "no allegiance". Interesting that this legislation could be used to deny our house a province, which could benefit yours.

    And to think I was considering cooperation with your house for our mutual expansion. Now I see my gestures of cooperation and friendship will be spat upon by the greedy.

    Don't put words in my mouth that I never have spoken. I never claimed that I am speaking in the name of our Emperor. Our Emperor is capable of speaking for himself.
    Your faction continues to imply that the Emperor is the one who wants this legislation passed, without proof, and you continue to call me a traitor for opposing it.

    And you continue to use this false argument:

    Are you implying that our Emperor cannot speak for himself? Are you yet again implying that our Emperor is incompetent?

    I'm merely trying to explain that the Edict lets the Emperor decide on the fate of Durazzo, no more no less and you seem to be opposed to that.

    That's why I say that I find your lack of trust in the competence of our Basileus hightly disturbing.
    This is nothing more than accusing me of being a traitor rather than explaining ONCE AND FOR ALL WHY THIS LEGISLATION IS NECESSARY!!!

    What exactly will be lost by allowing my house or my allies to claim Durazzo? If you want it for yourself JUST SAY SO.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kagemusha
    Monomachos, restrain yourself.
    When I am done being accused of traitorism, and people finally stop putting words in the Emperor's mouth, and those who seek to deny my house their rightful claims explain why, then I will restrain myself and not before.


    If you are calling words of Senator rubbish without any proof, you are insulting the office of Senator. You can call Tagaris a lier or that he speaks rubbish if the Basileos denies that he has consented the edict Tagaris proposed. But your current words say nothing else then disrespect towards office of Roman senator, while calling his words rubbish without any evidence of lies.
    The evidence is self-evident, my good man. The Emperor is not speaking, and someone else is claiming he said something that is not on record.

    Until the Emperor speaks for himself it's just plain evident to all sane persons that he hasn't said it yet.

    And for those of you who continue to question my allegiance and call me a fool, I can rightly accuse you of disrespecting a war veteran and the office of a Senator as well, BUT I WILL NOT, because it's a RED HERRING ARGUMENT and I will not be distracted by bit players and issues which are not being debated.

    Now answer me. WHY IS THIS LEGISLATION NECESSARY???

    Senator Monomachos, are you insinuating that the House of the Tagamata is intentionally trying to prevent your House from acquiring Durazzo? If so, that is ridiculous. There are four members of Tagamata, and only two of us have spoken up on this issue. Furthermore, I initially attacked Senator Tagaris believing that his legislation was made for personal reasons! You have lost all sense of reasoning if you think that Tagamata is somehow conspiring against your House. Speaking of which, which House exactly are you loyal to? Since I am apparently part of some conspiracy against your House, it would be useful for me to know who I should be attacking.
    Yes, when only half of your house supports legislation, it would seem to be obvious that the official position of that house is against the legislation.



    My allegiances are not the point of discussion. Should you want an answer to that question, talk with me privately. I WILL NOT have this argument changed for your benefit. Stick to the issues.
    Last edited by Askthepizzaguy; 06-04-2008 at 16:03.
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