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    OOC: Have to say that Methodios have pretty good eyes if he can see Efstathios since he is still in Egypt and it was message from him that was read in the Magnaura. But I hope we see that battle report soon then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibn-Khaldun View Post
    OOC: Have to say that Methodios have pretty good eyes if he can see Efstathios since he is still in Egypt and it was message from him that was read in the Magnaura. But I hope we see that battle report soon then.

    OOC: he is in egypt to.
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    OOC : Not good eyes but good ears...
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    I won't have baseless slander of members of House Asteri, least of all from the likes of you, Methodios.

    I have not brought up your nifty little new "house" and its slimy, slithering and underhanded mannerisms, but if you desire to continue along this path I will be more than happy to divulge every last shred I've had to endure from it.

    As for Alexandria, I will refrain from judging you until you deliver evidence of what happened to Kosmas that might justify such a response, but quite frankly, given your track record in the Balkans, I can at least bring some understanding for Strator Laskaris' misgivings.

    As for his right to question you, I would argue that every Senator of the Empire has the right to quesiton another, but perhaps those are just my unchivalrous ways coming through again.

    Finally, the renaming of Caesarea is quite apt to my eyes. We have changed its name from the nondescript sucking-up of a Roman client king to something that has meaning to us in the here and now. Or do you, who is so eager to boast of your own many achievements, doubt those of the late Markianos Ampelas?
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    The sacking of Alexandria is a tragedy. I ask the Senate to punish Methodios for his actions. The sacking of a Crusade target is an affront to God. And Methodios willfully violated an Edict. I will abide by the will of the Senate concerning his punishment. In the meantime, he will be provided with what is needed to protect and defend Alexandria. The people of that city, who is left of them, should not be punished for his crimes.


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    Pavlos enters the Diet with a disgruntled look on his face.

    Senators of the Roman Empire!

    I am not a great speaker and I usuall don't speak in front of you, but I have to speak up against the falsehoods laid against me by Megas Ksanthopoulos in his last report.

    First, my army is bloody well not made up entirely of mercenaries. There are some Saracen bastards, that's true, and some Armenian rabble that thinks it can shoot a bow and I have opted to give Ioannsi Kantakouzinos the company of Armenian cavalry to travel through enemy territory. But the rest of my army is in fact made up of true Roman soldiers!

    Secondly, I have offered the Megas the same thing you can now find in my Orders thread during the last season. You can see for yourself that the recruitment cost for those men I asked for would be lower than the wages I have to pay the mercenaries every year! So the Megas had my permission to supply me with a cheaper army but chose not to.

    It was his decision and not mine that I still have those mercenaries under my command! Don't accuse me of things I haven't done!
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    There is no justifications to the sack of Alexandria.
    What is even more disgraceful is that it was done by a man who voted 'Yes' just recently to an Edict that prohibited such actions.
    I support the Grandmaster here.. He should be punished.
    We can not allow people breaking rules and laws in anyway they want!
    We didn't punish Caesar for his actions..
    Machonios was punished by his House..
    And now Tagaris should be brought to justice and be punished by the state..
    As for the accusations that I spent most of the time sabotaging other Crusaders is not true.. All I did was the response to what Annios Solomon did.. He was the one sabotaging us on the eve of leaving Greece.. Can you deny that?! And this is the man you want to be part of your House?! He sabotaged us even in Egypt by destroying my armies Grand Cross.. What kind of man would do something like that?!
    And I have all the right to name a city in anyway I want since it is under my rule! If I want I could rename it Efstathiopol or something but I don't because I'm not after some personal glory like you are!
    I renamed it Markianopol to honor a great man who is example to all the Megas Logothetes' yet to come!!

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    Mercenaries cost money. Far more money than they are worth. They should be used sparingly, if at all. One of the reasons our economy was in such bad shape is because the Caesar had recruited a massive amount of mercenaries for his House. In the interests of getting on a sound financial footing, I have been targeting mercenary units for disbandment.

    Antypatos Pavlos however has insisted that he keep his mercenaries until he deems them not needed. He claims that Dyarbakir is so strategically important, that it must be moved on immediately. I fail to see the dire strategic need but I don't mind if he moves on Dyarbakir, as long as he does it with a cheaper recruited army.

    Once he disbands those mercenaries, I will recruit him a proper cheaper army. Until he disbands them, he is dragging on our economy. Those that drag on our economy will be the last to benefit from it. As for his "deal," it does not go far enough. All of his mercs need to go, not just a few.

    As for the Armenian Cavalry he gave to Kantakouzinos, I have deemed that action illegal and have "vetoed" it. You can not claim 2+ separate "stacks" as part of your army. Otherwise, every person who has an army can claim 20 different one-unit stacks all over the Empire. It would be chaos...

    The Armenian Cavalry with Kantakouzinos are under my direct control and they will not be moved by anyone. Failure to comply will mean a violation of the "rules."


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    "There is nothing in Megas actions that surprises me. At least now he can climb down from his high horse and stop preaching to us others since his political speeches and actions are two entirely different things. My domain, Yerevan actually has damaged walls, which makes it very hard to even protect with normal garrison in its current state and he chooses not to repair those walls, while Pavlos Chrysovergos has been disbanding large amounts of mercenaries. This just clearly shows what kind of a man Megas is.

    About the sack of Alexandria. There is a law, which i have to say i did not support but there is a law nonetheless and braking the law should be punished. Since Tagaris does not have an feudal lord, i think Emperor should punish him with a appropriate punishment."
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