RIAA is at it again

[TB666]

Yep, they are reaching a new low.
Radio is a form of piracy
What will they come up with next ??

[drone]

Reverse payola?

I guess suing their customers isn't going over so well, it's time to sue their promoters. I would imagine in a few years time they will be suing their artists.

[TevashSzat]

Reverse payola?

I guess suing their customers isn't going over so well, it's time to sue their promoters. I would imagine in a few years time they will be suing their artists.

Well, it is their fault that their work has to be so good that people are willing to steal for it.

[Husar]

http://www.gema.de/en/



Saying it's a form of piracy is a bit stupid but as one can see above they already pay here for whatever music they broadcast, even if you hold a public party you have to pay the GEMA here, I thought that was more or less normal everywhere?

[drone]

Don't ASCAP and BMI collect artist royalties for radio broadcasts in the US? I don't keep up with the music biz/cesspit that much anymore, but I thought stations already payed to the artists. Or is the RIAA insisting that they get paid as well?

I imagine this is what this is all about. It's not piracy, they just want more of a cut. My first post might actually be close to the truth, it's not too far a stretch to see the RIAA going after concert/performance money soon.

[TB666]

Don't ASCAP and BMI collect artist royalties for radio broadcasts in the US? I don't keep up with the music biz/cesspit that much anymore, but I thought stations already payed to the artists. Or is the RIAA insisting that they get paid as well?

Yes, all radio/public events music that you play you gotta pay the actual artist.
This is about the record companies wanting money.

[HoreTore]

Ridiculous. The artists should be paid, of course, but why on earth should the record industry profit?

It doesn't surprise me though. A few years ago, the norwegian version of RIAA(tono, I think) found out that if you listen to the radio while working, you should pay them royalties...

And they did it by simply sending bills with an amount they made up on the spot to a bunch of companies, with a note that said "pay up or we'll sue".

[Fragony]

Ridiculous. The artists should be paid, of course, but why on earth should the record industry profit?

Promotion costs a lot of money, they take the risks so should be a reason to do it, but sadly it's the music industry telling us what to like giving real talent no chance, more r&b it sells! Internet saved music in a way.

[HoreTore]

Promotion costs a lot of money, they take the risks so should be a reason to do it, but sadly it's the music industry telling us what to like giving real talent no chance, more r&b it sells! Internet saved music in a way.

I support any measure that will rid the world of Britney Spears and N'sync.

[Fragony]

I support any measure that will rid the world of Britney Spears and N'sync.

Perfect example of products and the music industry wants to keep cashing in on carefully assembled microwave-meals. Not a shred of heart in it, music industry is a burden. Can die, absolete, internet rock on.

[Caius]

Then, will the "box" sued for piracy?

[Lemur]

RIAA files motion with judge declaring that providing "proof" of infringement is not fair. "Requiring proof of actual transfers would cripple efforts to enforce copyright owners' rights online." Awwww, my little heart is breaking for them.

[Beirut]

RIAA files motion with judge declaring that providing "proof" of infringement is not fair. "Requiring proof of actual transfers would cripple efforts to enforce copyright owners' rights online." Awwww, my little heart is breaking for them.

Is there not some mountainous passage in the pages of US law that says you have to prove someone is guilty of a crime before they can be punished for a it?

[drone]

Is there not some mountainous passage in the pages of US law that says you have to prove someone is guilty of a crime before they can be punished for a it?

The problem is that copyright infringement is not a crime, it's a civil offense. There is no innocent or guilty, just a ruling for either the plaintiff or defendant. So it's not a case of beyond reasonable doubt, it's just a majority ruling in the case of jury civil trials.

The RIAA, I'm sure, is attempting to make copyright infringement a criminal offense, but we haven't gotten quite that far yet.

[Beirut]

The problem is that copyright infringement is not a crime, it's a civil offense. There is no innocent or guilty, just a ruling for either the plaintiff or defendant. So it's not a case of beyond reasonable doubt, it's just a majority ruling in the case of jury civil trials.

Really? Hmmm.

Can you appeal a civil court decision?

The RIAA, I'm sure, is attempting to make copyright infringement a criminal offense, but we haven't gotten quite that far yet.

Wouldn't that be self-defeating? Then they would have to supply proof.

[PanzerJaeger]

I support any measure that will rid the world of Britney Spears and N'sync.

Good news! That era was over 10 years ago! Or are you guys just getting N'sync over there? Beyonce is going to blow your collective minds!