OOC Thread and Chatroom 2

[_Tristan_]

So I'm able to take the save right now ?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Yes.

[Smowz]

Sure will GH, thanks for the information.

I have been frustrated by this before... for me as Megas it has been difficult to make the move in less than two hours with the huge amount of double checking over absolutely everything (even then I have missed 2 or 3 things already). However for others things should be a little easier the only issue sometimes can be the uploading of the save i guess.

I was thinking of suggesting a time limit (or at least a suggested one) to TinCow as a CA to the rules, what do others think of this or is this being too formal. I know no-one has knowingly kept the save for longer than possible, but i remember one evening when KoP had intenet issues I was waiting all evening on a workday to make the move and ended up having to make a rather miffed OOC statement bemoaning my situation

anyway thoughts?

[AussieGiant]

I'm against adding it into the rules as a CA.

[_Tristan_]

I'm not for it either...

Btw : I've edited my Megas post with some requests for the Megas

And Ibn-Khaldun, you seem to have forgotten to have Stavros and his men embark on your ship... He's still near Gaza while the ship is already moving north...

You might want to take the save once more to check it...

[GeneralHankerchief]

I'm against adding it into the rules as a CA.

I'm with AG on this. We don't need to formalize it; I think a consensus feeling is enough.

[_Tristan_]

Yes, most times you don't need more than 2 hours to play a battle. Three hours should be the max... Even for the worst siege situations...

[Cecil XIX]

Don't worry about Stavros, everthing is going according to plan.

Speaking of whom, what is the Order to do about him and Nathanail? Legally speaking, they have to remain exactly where they are unless KoP or BananaBob change their SOT. Can we make an exception that players who have left the game can have their SOTs ignored?

[_Tristan_]

Players that have left the game should have their avatars killed off...

I find notably gamey the fact Ichigo's avatar is sitting in Constantinople since the beginning of the game, to be used in the defense of the city...

Same could be said of how PK used Nathanail during the siege of Antioch.

Exceptions could be made when players are away for a definite period of time but players going away more than two terms should have their avatars done with...

EDIT : And this doesn't even take into account the fact that they "inflate" the feudal chain artificially...

[Ramses II CP]

I think TC suggested that KoP's avatar should be 'stashed' somewhere safe by the GM at the earliest convenience since he officially retired from the game, though that logically should be done in such a way as to avoid IC consequences for his army. I dunno about Bob. Did he vote in the last election? He should've been declared inactive and killed off if not.

Personally I don't care where you park your avatar if you're voting and being involved in the game, but Bob has been gone a long, long time really. KoP was here very recently and, since he was in contact with PK not too long ago I think it's possible he'll make a comeback if his schedule allows so I hope his avatar isn't killed off.

[Ramses II CP]

Ahh, one thing I forgot to mention; Dongola and Sofia have auto-manage turned on. Probably best to turn that off so the AI doesn't go building/recruiting random stuff there.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I'll try to address this later tonight when/if I get on.

[Smowz]

Regarding the automanage thing, I noticed this when I loaded up the save earlier to take some notes, It was not something I did I don't think. But I guess i should check before I save and pass it on each time.

I guess you guys are right about the length of time thing - it is pretty clear in TC's rules that it is essential to be as quick as you can be when dealing with the save which is good enough as you say.

With regards to the Avatars, I am in total agreement to what has been said before there are a number of inactive Avatars around who really should be deleted. It has already been discussed how strong our BGs' are in battle, but they also can contribute to aiding RR.

Anastasios (Lemongates avatar) in Belgrade for example. I guess we really should have mentioned it before.

The Stavros (Knights of Palma) situation could be awkward given that he is a Land owning vassel, I am not sure how long TC gave Savvas (Andres) to return. Probably best to wait for TC to return regarding that.

[OverKnight]

Please note than when I destroyed the first Jihad army, I only took along Vringas and his men. When I sallied against the second Jihad, I guess I could have left inactive avatars behind in the city square, but it didn't occur to me, they were there so I used them. It wasn't my intent to be "gamey".

Barring a civil war, I don't think the capital will be threatened again, unless another Jihad is called. The question then becomes if we don't store inactives in the capital, where do we put them? Killing unused avatars is at the discretion of the GM.

I've noticed a couple times that auto-manage can sometimes turn on by itself when the save is transferred from system to system. Whenever someone takes the save, glance around and see if the cog symbol is on any of the settlements and let the Megas know. No settlements should be auto-managed as that is the job of the Megas (per the directions of the owners).

[Smowz]

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

He died.

[ULC]

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

He died.

ZOMGYHTBKTINPW!

Anyway, is there any form of consensus as to whether or not a game balance update for units stats is wanted?

[Cecil XIX]

[Seinfeld]Well let's start the insanity.[/Seinfeld]

And yes, I'm all for more unit balancing.

[AussieGiant]

Just to expand on my point.

Snowz, you've handled the Igno issue with the save perfectly. Given this all Megas holding players should simply follow suit.

Avatar's hanging around for more than two terms should be seriously considered and redundant and removed.

Did Al die?

If he did, then now things get interesting.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Regarding inactive avatars: TC gets back in a week. As the decision to kill off an avatar is a rather permanent one, I think we can all put up with the minor annoyance for a little bit longer.

Regarding the Stainless Steel update: I think the best course of action here would be to propose it as an OOC Charter Amendment at the next Magnaura session, discussing it here in the meantime. FWIW, if it's compatible, I'm for it.

[pevergreen]

Would it require having the 6.1 mod, or just fiddling with unit stats?

[Northnovas]

Also mod upgrade 6.1 would mean Kingdoms already installed? I think there are a few of us who have not purchased/installed Kingdoms.

[GeneralHankerchief]

If 6.1 requires Kingdoms, that changes things. We've already been bleeding players.

[OverKnight]

Well it was a good run. I guess I'll be taking a recruitable general.

I did file a will with TC, but he's on vacation so I'm going to forward a copy to GH.

Guess I need to take a crash course on House politics and rules.

[ULC]

Would it require having the 6.1 mod, or just fiddling with unit stats?

Also mod upgrade 6.1 would mean Kingdoms already installed? I think there are a few of us who have not purchased/installed Kingdoms.

If 6.1 requires Kingdoms, that changes things. We've already been bleeding players.

No, it will only require fiddling at most with units stats and animations, as well as some abilities (such as the hold BI shield wall - yes it is present in vanilla, and it does increase the effectiveness of your spearmen considerably, they can now reliably fight cavalry ). Nothing else will be carried over from SS6, unless people want me to bring over the flags standards and colors (meaning no purple on the battlemap, and a better faction flag) I am not sure if that though is save compatible. Everything else to my knowledge is.

[Ramses II CP]

<-- Doing my part to stir IC matters up.

[ULC]

<-- Doing my part to stir IC matters up.

Yes, we need things stirred up with a madman on the throne and a prince who happens to be the second most controversial man besides Hypatios



I also demand that those in the Veteran's Haven begin posting

[pevergreen]

If it doesnt require 6.1, sure. IIRC 6.1 is a huge download.

[ULC]

*ahem* Before I get to far, does anyone want me to bring over the units for Byzantium from SS6?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Just to be clear, we are sticking with 4.1 and what we have now until the next Magnaura session. If there's going to be any downloading/messing with the mod, I want it to be done when:

a) There's a vote.
b) We do it at a point where everyone will DL it and use it from the same savegame.

[ULC]

Just to be clear, we are sticking with 4.1 and what we have now until the next Magnaura session. If there's going to be any downloading/messing with the mod, I want it to be done when:

a) There's a vote.
b) We do it at a point where everyone will DL it and use it from the same savegame.

Indeed, I was making no assertion what I was doing would be immediately implemented. I am only asking now so I can actually have it ready when the time comes.