OOC Thread and Chatroom 2

[_Tristan_]

I have a bit of a problem with the move made by YLC in this turn.

I don't recall giving him authorization to move Methodios or his army IIRC and my SoT confirms this...

I have no ability to have access to the save and therefore Methodios could get killed while I'm AFK...

Could the console be used to undo that move ASAP, please ?

IC, Methodios being severely wounded is the explanation behind his being grounded in Solomeia (or Medina)

[TinCow]

I have a bit of a problem with the move made by YLC in this turn.

I don't recall giving him authorization to move Methodios or his army IIRC and my SoT confirms this...

I have no ability to have access to the save and therefore Methodios could get killed while I'm AFK...

Could the console be used to undo that move ASAP, please ?

IC, Methodios being severely wounded is the explanation behind his being grounded in Solomeia (or Medina)

I will move Methodios back to the spot where he started the turn with the console when I get home.

[Ramses II CP]

I recommend everyone do a house keeping check/update of their SoT entry. I realized I never updated mine with my rank, and poking through saw a few things that probably needed an update from other people.

You can be sure I won't put Methodios in battle Tristan. When I fought the rebels I didn't want to retreat him (Does that accrue bad traits?) but I did leave him parked by the entrance with all his low number veteran cavalry so there was zero chance of them getting in a fight.

[Smowz]

I think the Priortising system is an excellent idea.

I do think the numbers for the PU's could do with being scaled down a little. I also believe the wording on the Priortised Buildings needs to worded in exactly the same way as the PU's. As it stands currently there is the potential for Oath swapping around to get lots of PBs' for a house in one megas term.

The mistakes I often make with my turns have been with players changing their Status and Order Threads and me not spotting it. The latest example being Acre, which I had long understood to be a target of conversion to a town. Of course it is Cecil XIX prerogative to change his own Orders as he wishes and I should have double checked before I put it in, but it is not always easy to spot, even with bold red writing.

As I said I should really painstakingly double check all building works, but it becomes a very time consuming process in this case.

I would like to suggest that players changing their Status and Order threads during a Megas Term should PM the Megas to say that they have done so. I apprieciate this adds a level of bureaucracy to the situation and that others before me have managed with it, but this has been my main issue.

I don't think that my Megas powers have been to damaged, but then I did not play a Megas previous so I do not have a point of comparison.

[Ituralde]

Man do I hate Horse Archers. There were just so many of them, I didn't know where to turn. My battles really don't improve if the battles I fight for this PBM are my only M2TW battles.

[Ramses II CP]

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I think the Priortising system is an excellent idea.

I do think the numbers for the PU's could do with being scaled down a little. I also believe the wording on the Priortised Buildings needs to worded in exactly the same way as the PU's. As it stands currently there is the potential for Oath swapping around to get lots of PBs' for a house in one megas term.

The mistakes I often make with my turns have been with players changing their Status and Order Threads and me not spotting it. The latest example being Acre, which I had long understood to be a target of conversion to a town. Of course it is Cecil XIX prerogative to change his own Orders as he wishes and I should have double checked before I put it in, but it is not always easy to spot, even with bold red writing.

As I said I should really painstakingly double check all building works, but it becomes a very time consuming process in this case.

I would like to suggest that players changing their Status and Order threads during a Megas Term should PM the Megas to say that they have done so. I apprieciate this adds a level of bureaucracy to the situation and that others before me have managed with it, but this has been my main issue.

I don't think that my Megas powers have been to damaged, but then I did not play a Megas previous so I do not have a point of comparison.

PBs are only calculated per Senate session, so oath swapping will not result in more PBs.

[TinCow]

PBs are only calculated per Senate session, so oath swapping will not result in more PBs.

Actually, that's not true based on how the rules are written now. PUs are calculated at normal Senate sessions, but PBs are granted whenever the rank is achieved. This inconsistency is due to the fact that the PB rules were original to the game, but PUs were introduced recently. I simply forgot to check on this when we wrote up the army changes last time. Smowz pointed this inconsistency out to me earlier in this term, and it has since been my intention to fix it via an amendment at this coming Senate session. I will simply propose an amendment that makes it so that PBs are calculated based on the rank held at the last normal Senate session, just like for PUs.

This will be one of several rule tweaking amendments I will be proposing this term. None of them are major, just little adjustments here and there to improve the system.

[Smowz]

Well there it is the end of my Megas term.

It certainly is a nice experience although I must confess quite time consuming at times. It is easy as I said to make mistakes with the Status and Order thread but that is a nice way of checking out what can and cannot be done.

How did you guys find the timing of the saves, was I going too fast? too slow? Were the Megas reports too brief, too long, not informative, too informative? Do my endless grammar errors grate?

Anyway look forward to seeing what Igno makes of the week whilst he has been away, who will stand for election this time and what to make of these newcomers. I just hope zim was not wanting his avatar to take after his mother!!!

[Ramses II CP]

Magnentios the Bastard! That is simply superb. If I'd known he was coming I'd've been tempted to get Vissa killed just to get that title. I think we should all work as hard as possible OOC to make sure he's next in line for the throne too.

I think the game has moved along nicely this term, and the new rules are working out just right. Well done Smowz!

On that note, I'd love to have that Pagan Magician Vissa gained executed. In fact I'll probably write a story to that effect, and soon. We're still allowed to kick them out, right?

[Northnovas]

Well done, Smowz! Excellent job for first time Chancellor and new to the PBEM. I gues the tweaking of the rules made the game play smoother? I thought it was a good pace with the saves.

Ramses yes we can get rid of the Pagan Magician I can't wait for your story on how the execution will go.

[TinCow]

Please point out any titles that need to be moved to new avatars or other avatar traits/retinue that need to be otherwise altered. (Other than Ramses' Pagan Magician, which will be taken care of shortly.)

[Smowz]

Well Vartholomaios Ksiros has the Duke of Damascus, as it stands it should be on Armatos, but his retinue may be full I am not sure.

[deguerra]

ahem, "Magnentios the Bastard" ey....well that certainly changes things. Guess I can't keep my moral high ground over Anna after all

[Ituralde]

Just a heads up that I will be gone for the next 12 hours or so, so don't expect any answers from Pavlos until tomorrow.

[AussieGiant]

A very good job by Smowz in my view. Things went far smoother and with the PU tightening then I'd say we are in a good position for the next term.

[Ignoramus]

I agree. Smowz's term was a very good example of a smooth Megas turn. Well done.

[Smowz]

Ok I was just updating my notes.

Who is currently high steward, high chancellor and has the privy seal?

[AussieGiant]

I currently hold the position of Lord High Chancellor.

Another issue, can someone move the "Bucharest Duke" title from me to GH?

[woad&fangs]

I have the Privy Seal

[Northnovas]

Ramses

Nice work on the pagan magician, your writings are always entertaining to read!

[TinCow]

I have the following list of retinue changes to do. I will work on the mugshots tomorrow, so please point out any others that I am missing before then:

Vissarionas ek Lesvou - Remove Pagan Magician
Vartholomaios Ksiros - Remove Duke of Damascus, transfer to Armatos ek Naksou if possible.
Apionnas Vringas - Remove Duke of Budapest Bucharest , transfer to Klimis Dokeianos

[Ramses II CP]

Thanks NN!

[AussieGiant]

TC,

It's Bucharest not Budapest.

Ramses, always entertaining to read your stuff. I certainly liked the blood and guts through the piece.

[ULC]

Is it actually possible within the current system to marry within family? I don;t think the marriage between Andronikos and Hypatia is possible.

[OverKnight]

I double checked, the game allows it.

[ULC]

Now the question is whether or not Methodios will let that happen

[OverKnight]

Good point, it is Methodios's daughter. We'll see.

[Ituralde]

Just my views on the building Edicts.

Do I see this right that those are Edicts that are binding for Senators, since they can not be enforced by the Megas without breaking the game rules. So if the conversion of Rhodes must be done by will of the Senate, its owner Hypatios Machonios must put this in the build queue otherwise the Megas can not fulfill the Edict since he is only allowed to build things that appear on the build queue and Edicts don't overrule parts of the rules.

So that's my view. Before I bring anything up about it IC I would like to make sure we're clear on the OOC parts here.

[Smowz]

Well I feel that this is something that the senate should be able to be used for a pressing concern for the empire is the maintenance of a fine economy.

I do not see anything wrong with Edicts targeting senators, as well as the Megas. In this case the holders of Rhodes and Nicosia have a responsibility to ensure their settlements are being used for the greater good of the empire.

Of course for a settlement to change into a Town, both the senator in charge needs to change his build queue and the Megas needs to allocate the appropriate funds to carry out the conversion.

Of course in the case of Rhodes and Nicosia, there is another way to do it through the house leaders Priortised Building. I am not sure if the Priortised building can be used to override an individual senators build queue however.

[deguerra]

just as a quick heads up for the next Megas:

I have ammended my SOT to allow Smowz to handle my prioritizing..