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    Quote Originally Posted by TinCow View Post
    Remember... a hostile Megas IS BAD. If someone wins an election who is hostile to you, the best response is to hunker down and conserve your forces until a more friendly Megas can be put into power (either by waiting for the next election or choosing 'other' methods to get rid of the current one).
    Order players know all about hunkering down. We did it last term. And in the two terms before that, we walked on eggshells since neither Megas was exactly "friendly." So, I know how nerve wracking it can be to bite your fingernails wondering if your non-PA will get disbanded out from under you. Because of that, I am trying to keep things as bright and cheery OOC as possible. If anyone has a problem, talk to me OOC and I'll let you know where I am coming from. I want to punish characters, not players, and I hope my actions come off that way.

    Those who are on Mak's bad side will have to hunker down, pucker up, or put together a coalition to oppose him. Or some combination of all three...


    This is thinking about the situation backwards. The Megas never has to seize anything, because it all belongs to him. The only people who can seize anything are the other players. If it's not in your garrison, RA, or PA, then it wasn't yours in the first place. The Megas can allow you to move units that are not yours, but you do not have any legal ownership over them. Again the "or otherwise" language is definitely confusing, and I will mark that down on my list of things to correct at the next Senate session.
    That was my fault for using the "seizing" language in the SOT. I'll use different verbage.

    Reclaim is probably more accurate...


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    To answer WH question about Methodios "punishment" in the Megas thread, I have the battle report ready but as it is tied with a story using Kosmas (Zim's character), I'd like to check it out with him first...
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    I want to thank TinCow for clearing up all those things. I think everybody should have a better understanding of how things work now. It was never my intention to harm anybody with my interpretation of the rules, I hope it didn't come across that way. I am, as ever just curious to learn more about the game rules. The clearer the situation is the easier it is for me to act within the boundaries presented and know where I stand!

    I'm glad we settled all of this OOC and although I now also bicker about a bit IC, I just want to let you know PK that from an OOC point everything is clarified and fine for me!

    Happy gaming everybody!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ituralde View Post
    I want to thank TinCow for clearing up all those things. I think everybody should have a better understanding of how things work now. It was never my intention to harm anybody with my interpretation of the rules, I hope it didn't come across that way. I am, as ever just curious to learn more about the game rules. The clearer the situation is the easier it is for me to act within the boundaries presented and know where I stand!

    I'm glad we settled all of this OOC and although I now also bicker about a bit IC, I just want to let you know PK that from an OOC point everything is clarified and fine for me!

    Happy gaming everybody!

    Cheers!

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    Here is to IC bickering!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ituralde View Post
    It was never my intention to harm anybody with my interpretation of the rules, I hope it didn't come across that way. I am, as ever just curious to learn more about the game rules. The clearer the situation is the easier it is for me to act within the boundaries presented and know where I stand!
    This is why I am going to write the Exarch guide and the Code of Conduct. The Rules needs to be enforced, but that can't realistically be done unless people understand exactly what the rules are. I understand them just fine, but I wrote them and thought about them for a good 6 months before we even started playing. No one else should ever be expected to know the rules as well as I do. It is thus my responsibility to make sure that they are explained properly in a manner that can be understood by all. This is a complex game and I have worked, and will continue to work, to make it as easy to play as possible.

    I appreciate you all being patient with the constant rule issues that pop up. It's a work in progress and this is bound to continue for some time to come. I hope there's still some enjoyment being had underneath all of the confusion.


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    Love your work TC!!

    The gift of explanation is overpowering in you!!!

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    And does anyone know where the Emperor and Patriarch are...I need to have a chat now I'm not strapped to a chair like I'm in a James Bond film!!

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    Well, after some the rather convincing deluge of PM's sent my way, I guess I will have to stay. I do intend though to be switching Avatars, depending on a response i am waiting for, which will make slight alterations in current storyline. I'll pm TC with details
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    YLC, I am afraid you are quite stuck with us...



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    All adhesives wear off...I'll just bide my time...


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    So while I was writing the battle report for the bridge near Cairo it occurred to me that not a single time during the battle did I see any Egyptian Desert Archers fire their bows. Can anyone confirm whether or not they are broken? Might make it rather difficult for the Fatamids to defend Cairo if a chunk of their archers can't shoot. I also noticed that Turkomen substantially outrange Vards even though Vards supposedly have 'very long range...' Not that I'd complain about Vards being cranked down.

    I hope KoP got a good trait or two for that battle.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramses II CP View Post
    I hope KoP got a good trait or two for that battle.
    He got a few. I think he got a shieldbearer. He got "fine with blood" and a couple others. And he got a MotH offer which I am still waiting on Motep to decline/accept.


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    Hi Ramses,

    I've been playing a number of campaigns with SS 4.1 and I can confirm that archers in general need to be manually prompted to fire very frequently.


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    Second part taken care of . Please read the story thread.

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    I am waiting on KP to respond to my message. I will not adopt him if it is against his wishes. If he wants it, I shall.
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    Well, it is really up to you. I would like to know before I take the save back tomorrow afternoon.


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    If he does not respond by the time you have to move onto the next turn, PK, accept the MoH.

    Ill take a gander at my "adoptee"

    I will not make any changes with the save and will remove it afterwords, so I will not bother announcing that I have taken it.
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    To those of you who PMed me over the weekend, if work allows I'll be catching up on my correspondence a bit later.
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    No one in this game can ever pronounce my avatars name right. It's not that hard: Vart-holo-maios Ksiros. Vartholomaios.

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    Though IC Methodios will face anything thrown his way, I want everybody to know that OOC I sacked Alexandria both for public order and to raise our treasury...

    If only Zim would come online and give me his go with the story, perhaps judgment would be less fierce

    Now that said, criticize and punish all you like...
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    Actually.. I would have done the same thing if I would have seen that public order is in red

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tristan de Castelreng View Post
    Though IC Methodios will face anything thrown his way, I want everybody to know that OOC I sacked Alexandria both for public order and to raise our treasury...
    Well that's all just dandy in theoretical OOC world. Unfortunately Apionnas doesn't get to live there and therefore will never take that into consideration.

    I’m not trying to sound harsh but this type of disclosure is a little confusing.


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    What I'm getting at AG, is that I knew full well what might befell Methodios when I chose this option but the mechanics of the game "almost" forced my hand...

    If this diclosure sounds confusing to you, just keep on berating Methodios for what he did...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tristan de Castelreng View Post
    What I'm getting at AG, is that I knew full well what might befell Methodios when I chose this option but the mechanics of the game "almost" forced my hand...

    If this diclosure sounds confusing to you, just keep on berating Methodios for what he did...

    Alright thanks for the information.

    I'm not sure how a game forces your hand...but I'm prepared to indulge in the "concept" for arguments sake.

    I'll carry on as instructed.

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    Still waiting for that contact NN.

    Seems I'm part of the kommendoukishoodydookywoogy.

    Reminds me of Peter Van Danhoogenboogentroogendoogenboogen.
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    Tincow, you made a small mistake in moving Methodios' army...

    The Crusader sergeants you took belong to Annios Solomon... The unit I intended to take with Methodios was the complete one you just added, not the depleted...
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    I will switch them at the earliest opportunity. Apologies for the error.


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    In the meantime, a revolt is simmering in Cairo even with the low taxes and Annios Solomon and the remaining garrison are powerless to prevent it from happening.
    TC .. I think that it should be Alexandria and not Cairo

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    Fixed, thanks for the notice.


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    Confusing, heh ?
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