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    Quote Originally Posted by TinCow View Post
    I'm having a brain fart. Can someone help me figure out when (game year/turn) Pavlos Chrysovergos (Ituralde) achieved the rank of Patrikios?
    He gained his third vassal here.

    That would start his Antypatos timer. From the various links in the History thread, it seems this started on 1125. (You look at the timestamp of the post and compare it to timestamps of other posts, such as Megas reports, to figure out the year.)

    He gained his fourth one here.

    In 1132, Pavlos would have met his TIR for Patrikios. He had 4 vassals so he would have been promoted immediately.

    Pavlos got his 5th vassal in 1135.

    He'll meet his TIR for Duke in 1140. The Caesar might leave the House before then if the Emperor dies but Pavlos can just give land to Motep's avatar.
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    Thanks


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    Phew, I don't remember these bodyguards being so powerful!!!

    They ripped that Jihad army to shreds largely themselves - now I know why you guys are so confident at carving empires of your own with yourselves and 20 horsemen for company.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smowz View Post
    Phew, I don't remember these bodyguards being so powerful!!!

    They ripped that Jihad army to shreds largely themselves - now I know why you guys are so confident at carving empires of your own with yourselves and 20 horsemen for company.
    Yeah, the times we have lost avatars has been when there has only been one RBG on the field. You get two or more and there is little you can not accomplish.


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    Which brings in how I feel about the raw power of the bodyguard. No offense, but it kinda eats away at the game for me when I can take 4 cavalry and defeat an army 6 times that size easily. I like the challenge of battle, and it's starting to feel...missing. I don;t know about you guys but I could do for some slight rebalancing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by YourLordandConqueror View Post
    Which brings in how I feel about the raw power of the bodyguard. No offense, but it kinda eats away at the game for me when I can take 4 cavalry and defeat an army 6 times that size easily. I like the challenge of battle, and it's starting to feel...missing. I don;t know about you guys but I could do for some slight rebalancing...
    I like that there are no limits on RBG's in a stack. Because it requires inter-player cooperation. The AI was always going to be absurdly easy and we knew it.

    Also, banding together RBG's helps to minimize the effects of a neglectful Megas. But an army is still needed. And that is for taking and holding large cities.


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    I'm not talking purely against the AI though, more or less about PvP. The imbalance in my opinion will show up so greatly that it will come down to who was unlucky enough to lose a single man from their RBG unit to random missile fire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YourLordandConqueror View Post
    Which brings in how I feel about the raw power of the bodyguard. No offense, but it kinda eats away at the game for me when I can take 4 cavalry and defeat an army 6 times that size easily. I like the challenge of battle, and it's starting to feel...missing. I don;t know about you guys but I could do for some slight rebalancing...
    RBGs are powerful, but using them is still a major risk because it's your avatar on the line. We've already had 3 deaths in battle in the first 35 game turns. It took over 70 game turns just to get one battle death in KotR and over 100 game turns to get 3 battle deaths. I think it's doing pretty well, all considered. Plus, we concluded at the end of KotR that the real competition was player versus player, not player versus AI. That's why the current rule system allows so much freedom for political maneuvering and civil war. As far as I'm concerned, the AI exists mainly to give the players the resources to fight each other.


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    If we ever do

    PK, what if it's only between 2 avatars? Really, the whole thing comes down to avatars in PvP, not what your troops are or etc. Maybe I'm just missing something or I have been playing LTC to long...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Privateerkev View Post
    He gained his third vassal here.

    That would start his Antypatos timer. From the various links in the History thread, it seems this started on 1125. (You look at the timestamp of the post and compare it to timestamps of other posts, such as Megas reports, to figure out the year.)

    He gained his fourth one here.

    In 1132, Pavlos would have met his TIR for Patrikios. He had 4 vassals so he would have been promoted immediately.

    Pavlos got his 5th vassal in 1135.

    He'll meet his TIR for Duke in 1140. The Caesar might leave the House before then if the Emperor dies but Pavlos can just give land to Motep's avatar.
    Thanks! I was just wondering about that myself!

    Having vassals can be soo confusing...
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    I will pray to some devine god that someone finds out about this little tryst between Mak and Anna.

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    And start a war over a woman! What sane minded Greek would ever want that!


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    I hope you're all happy, I have the People's Court theme song stuck in my head.
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    *edit*

    Nevermind, I confused it with "Night Court"
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    Quote Originally Posted by AussieGiant View Post
    I will pray to some devine god that someone finds out about this little tryst between Mak and Anna.
    It's basically like Lothar's "assassination of Siegfried" story. Everyone knew it OOC but no one knew it IC. (Except for the Illuminati people.)

    I don't expect it to stay quiet forever but it would be a shame if random NPC's (looks over at YLC) claimed IC knowledge and starting spreading rumors.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Privateerkev View Post
    I don't expect it to stay quiet forever but it would be a shame if random NPC's (looks over at YLC) claimed IC knowledge and starting spreading rumors.
    What?


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    Quote Originally Posted by YourLordandConqueror View Post
    What?

    Oh nothing. Just the fact that you've already tried to use loopholes to gain IC knowledge of that story...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Privateerkev View Post
    Oh nothing. Just the fact that you've already tried to use loopholes to gain IC knowledge of that story...

    I was asking! Yeesh! If there was a way of knowing, then I wanted to know if it was reasonable to know through such a source. Shoot me down for checking back with you .

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