Heavy Fighting in South Ossetia

**Evil_Maniac From Mars** · 08-10-2008, 05:04

Originally Posted by SwedishFish

And weakening a sovereign nation's hold over it's own country....

Russia occupied Georgian territory and has attacked numerous areas outside Ossetia and you are still in belief that the Russians are right in their attack.

Sure. Georgia broke a ceasefire, and now they're getting a hard lesson in what happens when you mess with areas which have stated Russian protection. The Georgians were not being sensible, and the Russians responded in force. Big surprise.

**KarlXII** · 08-10-2008, 05:06

Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars

Sure. Georgia broke a ceasefire, and now they're getting a hard lesson in what happens when you mess with areas which have stated Russian protection. The Georgians were not being sensible, and the Russians responded in force. Big surprise.

Yes, yes, Georgia has no right to it's own country, Russia is responding nobely,

**Evil_Maniac From Mars** · 08-10-2008, 05:10

Originally Posted by SwedishFish

Look at the Georgian aggression! How dare a country actually attempt to govern rebellious areas? Russia is obviously acting noble, freeing oppressed peoples

Russia is massing troops? Big surprise, considering Georgians have been attacking Ossetians and Russian peacekeepers for at least a day now.

Originally Posted by SwedishFish

Yes, yes, Georgia has no right to it's own country, Russia is responding nobely,

The region in question is not under Georgian control, but under Ossetian control. The Ossetian people are largely Russian citizens and for the most part want to join Russia. Russia has every right both to protect it's citizens and to honour previous agreements in the region - something Georgia has not done.

There is a fine line between enforing a cease-fire, and full blown occupation. This is the latter.

Russia is driving Georgian forces out of Ossetia, and the first attack by Georgia was an act of war.

**KarlXII** · 08-10-2008, 05:14

Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars

Russia is massing troops? Big surprise, considering Georgians have been attacking Ossetians and Russian peacekeepers for at least a day now.

The region in question is not under Georgian control, but under Ossetian control. The Ossetian people are largely Russian citizens and for the most part want to join Russia. Russia has every right both to protect it's citizens and to honour previous agreements in the region - something Georgia has not done.

You protect your citizens by having them evacuated, getting them out of the danger. You do not bomb the country, nor amass "peacekeepers" on such a scale.

I'm not surprised Russia is amassing troops, in fact, it'll help in the suppresing of the "Evil Georgian State" and the liberation of others

**Evil_Maniac From Mars** · 08-10-2008, 05:21

Originally Posted by SwedishFish

You protect your citizens by having them evacuated, getting them out of the danger.

Kind of tough when it's 70% of the population, and that's the main part of the population being targeted in an area that isn't, de facto, part of Georgia.

[QUOTE]You do not bomb the country

No, you bomb a country when that country breaks a peacekeeping deal to attack your forces and the government you are protecting.

nor amass "peacekeepers" on such a scale.

They are peacekeepers - and recognized by the Georgians as such - in the agreement the Georgians just broke.

**KarlXII** · 08-10-2008, 05:21

I can imagine it now:

(Scene opens on playground, large tough kid is talking to smaller kid)

Russia (Large kid): I'm gonna go pummel that Georgia, here's 10 bucks, tell the teacher I'm doing it for you.
Ossetia: You're the best!

**Evil_Maniac From Mars** · 08-10-2008, 05:24

An update, and this is the Georgian Interior Minister:

He told the BBC that Russian troops had not entered Georgia from South Ossetia, but added that fighting was continuing.

**CrossLOPER** · 08-10-2008, 14:39

Originally Posted by Marshal Murat

The Russians reap what they sow.

What? How is Georgia's terrible economic situation and ultra-nationalist government Russia's fault?

Originally Posted by SwedishFish

I can imagine it now:

(Scene opens on playground, large tough kid is talking to smaller kid)

Russia (Large kid): I'm gonna go pummel that Georgia, here's 10 bucks, tell the teacher I'm doing it for you.
Ossetia: You're the best!

Georgia SHELLED South Ossetia. They nearly wiped a town off the map.

There was a really, really messy civil war in that area. If you think that the break away republics had any wish to remain with Georgia, you're wrong.

Also, I'm not sure why people in this thread think that shelling a civilian population is a perfectly acceptable way of dealing with rebels.

**FactionHeir** · 08-10-2008, 14:56

Originally Posted by CrossLOPER

Also, I'm not sure why people in this thread think that shelling a civilian population is a perfectly acceptable way of dealing with rebels.

As long as they are a Western ally, anything they do is fine, no? Who cares if a few civilians die as long as they like us and are not communist or threatening us in any way

**Devastatin Dave** · 08-11-2008, 20:04

Originally Posted by CrossLOPER

Also, I'm not sure why people in this thread think that shelling a civilian population is a perfectly acceptable way of dealing with rebels.

Are you kidding? Several here get in this thread get a boner if anyone ever mentions what NATO did to the Serbs. We bombed civilian Serbs in that conflict like a bad Dresden reenactment. Personally, I'm just waiting for the strongly worded statement from the UN. That'll show 'em!!!