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    Default Re: Should I buy considering the bad Ai?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheogorath View Post
    To be honest, for all we moan about the AI, it really isnt THAT horrible. A bit bare-bones, but certainly functional.
    And really, you cant help but laugh when it does something insanely stupid. Although it can get a bit frustrating when five factions declare war on you at once :p
    I agree with this post. RTW and M2TW are games I keep going back too and definitely Kingdoms has provided many enjoyable hours of game playing. Looking forward to Empire TW. I just take the games for what they are and have fun!! If you want something very intense, then try EU3 - In Nominee from Paradox Games.

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    Default Re: Should I buy considering the bad Ai?

    The title just says what I was thinking.

    I've been playing MTW VI for years now and I'm quite acomplished in playing the game (if I may say so myself). I really enjoy being put to the test tactically as well as strategically. Recently my PC died and I bought a new one that unfortunatly refuses to run MTW.
    This seems to be a right time to also get me an 'upgrade' of my favorite game. Although I haven't been much on this part of the .Org I still heard the horror stories of how dumbed down M2TW is in comparison with STW and MTW.
    Is M2TW (together with an expansionpack and patches) worth buying for someone who really enjoyed the original MTW and puts graphics under gameplay and challenge when chosing a game.
    Are there mods who raises the level of AI up to somewhere near MTW? I know at least Martok and Factionheir know the level I mean.
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    Default Re: Should I buy considering the bad Ai?

    The sad fact is, if you're used to MTW AI you're likely to be sorely disappointed by the AI in M2TW, at least in vanilla. While the AI isn't quite as bad as it is sometimes made out to be, it is still pretty deficient compared to MTW. TBF, most (though not all) of the more infuriating glitches such as passive AI have been eliminated by the patches, but it is still not exactly stellar. It is prone to occasional fits of madness, i.e. besieging your capital with a single unit of peasants, declaring war on you right after signing an alliance etc. However, more annoyingly, it is extremely bad at managing its economy and teching up, resulting in enemy armies usually consisting of large numbers of rubbish troops. It also struggles to expand and to keep any kind of offensive momentum when it has the upper hand; I often see vanilla factions go to war, and spend the next 50 years skirmishing along their border even though one could easily crush the other.

    Most of the mods improve the AI to some extent; the two I play are Stainless Steel and Broken Crescent, both of which are a significant step up in challenge from vanilla. To some extent though, this is achieved by artificially helping the AI through free troops and cash, so it's hard to say exactly how much the AI is improved. The Broken Crescent factions do seem to be substantially better at expanding and mounting a decent offensive than the vanilla ones.

    In all, I'd say M2TW is worth getting for the very fine mods which have been made for it, (it sounds to me like you might enjoy SS, which feels a bit more like MTW than vanilla does), but I wouldn't spend too long on vanilla.

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    Doesn't Kingdoms have somewhat questionable copy-right protection software on the cd,that installs itself without your knowledge,or consent for that matter? That's the only thing that's stopped me from buying it,as usually I frown upon programs installing themselves on my computer without my consent,as I've had issues in the past with spyware...

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    Yes it does install SecuROM.
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    Default Re: Should I buy considering the bad Ai?

    Yes we all moan and cry about it (including me), but considering some other games of this genre it isn't half bad.


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    If'n ya don't like the AI why not play Hot Seat and play each faction in rotation? Ain't dat possible? Just take a nap in between turns so you don't remember what you was doin.

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