Do you support duelling as a manner of settling disputes and/or "recreational" duelling (Mensur)?
Duelling
Do you support duelling as a manner of settling disputes and/or "recreational" duelling (Mensur)?
Last edited by Evil_Maniac From Mars; 08-26-2008 at 18:22.
Re: Duelling
I don´t fight fair.....I´m more inclined to smash a chair on your noggin when you´re not looking.
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What type of duel you talking? Handgun and 10 feet or with a Rapier? Maybe even a fistfight?
I quite like those in old films and in games, though I imagine people nowadays will try to cheat. Like walking 9 instead of 10 before turning with the gun and all.
Is there actually a law banning those? They used to be legal I think.
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Re: Duelling
All for it, but not with handguns. There needs to be some skill involved. Swords make it to quick at that, knife's and fists.
Pretty sure that duel's qualify as mansluaghter in most countries. If they arent outlawed specifically their covered in laws dealing with homicide, sadly.
Wine is a bit different, as I am sure even kids will like it.
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It is the only honourable way to resolve a dispute between gentlemen, provided of course that they are gentlemen. If they are not, then the old fisty-cuffs is just as acceptable.
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I am opposed to it.
Resolving disputes is what the law is for. Failing that, the ability to deal with those you don't like with without resorting to violence is a basic prerequisite of civilized society.
I certainly don't see why prowess in physical combat has any bearing on the legitimacy of either side in a dispute. Seems mostly like a means for those skilled in combat to take whatever they want from those who are not.
Furthermore, I consider the right to life to be inalienable. Meaning, there is no contract you can enter into to surrender it. Since your opponent in a duel cannot have legitimately waived their right to life, killing them is murder.
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It is a way of settling questions of honour which must be agreed to by both parties, not a way of doing divorce settlements.Originally Posted by Poor Bloody Infantry
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It is illegal in most jurisdictions, but I believe it is legal in certain US states, except by members of the National Guard.
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You're asking whether or not I support "Might is right"?
No, the stone age was a few thousand years ago....
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
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It has nothing to do with "might is right", but two consenting adults who, for whatever reason, decide to duel.
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Bah. I spit on your flirt with aristocratic macho-nonsense.
Taking a life is illegal. And it should remain as such.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
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No it isn't, at least not in certain circumstances.
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Do you support assisted suicide? If both parties agree to a duel in writing, both should have the reasonable expectation that they will die. Like soldiers, if you will.
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It's an interesting take on it, however instead of viewing it as assisted suicide you could equally well view it as premeditated murder.
For the record, I do not support assisted suicide for anyone but the terminally ill. Certainly not for perfectly healthy young men who still have plenty to contribute to society. The example of Evariste Galois always springs to mind, a brilliant young mathematician killed in a duel aged 20.
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That's a good argument, actually. But even in places where asisted suicide it's proceeded by careful deliberation and review by medical experts. In contrast I don't see how you can prevent scenarios where one drunk challenges someone and the other is to far gone to refuse while he otherwise would have.
Last edited by Kralizec; 08-27-2008 at 12:52.
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If two morons want to kill each other, from thugs fighting with broken bottles to aristos with platinum swords I really don't have a problem with it. Chances are they're going to do it anyway. At least no one else wil get hurt.
An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
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Anyway, EMFM, have you been getting inspiration from muslims lately?
Last edited by HoreTore; 08-27-2008 at 10:50.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
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No.
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