Spirit Mafia [Concluded]

[GeneralHankerchief]

From the write up, and also the fact I have not been informed I have to do anything remotely anti-town. I doubt makaikhaan forgot, and Kukri hasnlt told me otherwise. If the town wants, I am at your disposal and will investigate how ever you wish. Just put it to a vote.

YLC, you seriously need to be more forthcoming if you expect anyone to believe you. That, and history (check Netherworld Mafia) isn't on your side here.

[ULC]

Exactly what is confusing? In the write up he is clearly labeled as a spirit of purity and light.

The twelve spirits ensured the survival of the pure and kindly being.

That seems benevolent to me at least.

I brought it up because it seemed like I should clarify that he isn't something like "Hades" from the Netherworld mafia game. And the part you quote is just a point that I don't think either one would have goofed on such an important matter as telling me that I am now a pawn of Kukrikhan. I have received nothing telling me that I am. And may I ask why we are now focusing on Kukrikhan, and not you, Sigurd, and Glyphz, the only ones left that I revealed to? Claim a role, or I change my vote

And no takers for a vote on whom I should investigate? Does anyone want their innocence proven? Does anyone not want to work together on this one?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Where exactly does it say that Kukri is this?

And you never revealed to me, so I have no idea what you're talking about.

[ULC]

Sorry GH, when I posted that, I was replying to CR, not you.

As to your question...

Originally posted by makaikhaan

The thunder quickly ended; the lightening bolts soon after. The twelve spirits ensured the survival of the pure and kindly being. They returned to its side, between it and the lightening-wielding attacker. Each spirit raised a hand, and, with a massive blast, shot out the electricity each had stored during the assault towards the attacker. Only through a nimble jump backwards, all the way back to the window from which it had leaped. The attacker suddenly shook its head, as though it was shaking the cobwebs out. A confused look temporarily overtook its face, however, when it peered down at the spirit guards which stood formidably before the two on the ground. Not looking eager much longer for engagement, the lightning being withdrew into the castle halls.

Whic is right after I am resurrected. Why you cannot read this, I do not understand, so my vote stands GH, for asking a question you could have easily answered yourself, scum. How about we start using my ability to it's fullest while we can, or at least start discussing suspects.

[Crazed Rabbit]

How does that affect GH's suspicions about Kukri, though?

CR

[ULC]

How does that affect GH's suspicions about Kukri, though?

CR

That is the weirdest question I have ever heard CR, at least coming from you. How do decide what affect GH's suspicions? What MK was referring to was definitely NOT me. Your acting scummier by the post CR, FoS: Crazed Rabbit.

I am really tiring of this game between you two, so either start claiming roles or I will simply investigate you when the time comes. Better yet, how about you start using me to full effect instead of posting useless arguments and interrogating me. I can do whatever you say, and yet you still suspect me, needlessly, and you question Kukri on the basis that he is like Hades. Nothing is being done for the betterment of the town , and it's getting on my nerves. DO SOMETHING PEOPLE!

[GeneralHankerchief]

You're implying that Kukri is this being of light that summoned the spirits against the lightning guy. I see nowhere in the public thread where this is the case.

If this is another freakin' exclusive pro-town group thing, I'm going to vomit.

[ULC]

Originally posted by makaikhan

The other being raised its head, becoming aware of its attacker. It merely nodded its head in response to the bolt headed towards it. Without warning, appearing from seemingly nowhere, twelve great spirits arose. The twelve stepped together, each with a sword and shield, forming a link between the two beings. The bolt of electricity struck one of the spirits, but was merely absorbed. The attacking creature held up both hands this time, a great, dark cloud accumulating rapidly above the combatants. Thunder sounded loudly above, and great, purple bolts of lightening descended to the attacker's opponents. The twelve spirits moved with blinding quickness, stepping into the path of each and every bolt, and absorbing the charged particles. Bolts continued to rain down upon the field, but not one could penetrate past the guard of the twelve spirits. In the meantime, the defending spirit had returned to the corpse, attempting to finish the job at hand. It continued to pour the pure light into the body, and wounds continued to stitch themselves, while cold and gray flesh became warm and tan. The defending being suddenly stopped; the corpse began to rise from the ground.

Exactly how many times must I post exactly what makaikhan has? How many times must you attack me and Kukri and not concentrate on helping the town? I grow tired of this

And if there is a protown group, I am not parley to it.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Um...Okay, look. GH voted for Kukri. You asked him why he would vote for such a protown role.

I want to know why Kukri is so obviously a pro-town role. You've acted as though GH has said Kukri is the guy who resurrected you and is suspicious of Kukri on account of that.

But I haven't seen where GH said that. If GH has said he suspected Kukri of being the resurrecting being and then voted for him, I could see why you would ask that question.

Now, since GH made the comment about the resurrection and then voted for Kukri, it seems that you took that to mean GH thought Kukri resurrected you. I do not think that is GH's reasoning for voting for Kukri.

Since you're alive and can talk freely again, did you get any investigation results before you died?

CR

[GeneralHankerchief]

YLC:

I voted for Kukri on the basis that I think he's bad. Your initial response was the following:

Why do you vote an obviously protown role GH?

I asked for clarification.

You responded with this:

Exactly what is confusing? In the write up he is clearly labeled as a spirit of purity and light.

"He" as in Kukri.

So, my question to you is: HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT THE SPIRIT OF LIGHT IS KUKRI?

[ULC]

Um...Okay, look. GH voted for Kukri. You asked him why he would vote for such a protown role.

I want to know why Kukri is so obviously a pro-town role. You've acted as though GH has said Kukri is the guy who resurrected you and is suspicious of Kukri on account of that.

But I haven't seen where GH said that. If GH has said he suspected Kukri of being the resurrecting being and then voted for him, I could see why you would ask that question.

Now, since GH made the comment about the resurrection and then voted for Kukri, it seems that you took that to mean GH thought Kukri resurrected you. I do not think that is GH's reasoning for voting for Kukri.

Since you're alive and can talk freely again, did you get any investigation results before you died?

CR

Sorry, I thought that meant GH had some inkling, so I took it as if he was suddenly attacking a protown role. Sorry to Kukri for that, and sorry to GH. My newbishness is getting to me...

No, I did not, and it would not have mattered, for we can see that CA is dead.

Still, any votes on whom I should investigate?

[ULC]

Oops! Forgot to change my vote. Now that it's clear to me that GH wasn't voting Kukri on my rather strangled theory of "GH attacking Protown"...

Vote: Abstain

I'll vote when I'm not being an idiot...

[GeneralHankerchief]

Alright, I think we're cool now.

I don't think Kukri is the resurrector. I have no idea who the resurrector is. But I think Kukri's behavior's been off for the entire game, hence my vote.

BTW, don't forget to unvote me. khaan's a stickler for the rules.

[ULC]

GAH!

Unvote: GeneralHankerchief, Vote: Abstain

Thanks GH

[KukriKhan]

I am the resurrector.

vote: Glyphz

YLC: Please investigate Sigurd as soon as possible.

[CountArach]

I can confirm KurkiKhan's claim.

[FactionHeir]

Resurrector or Hades?

[CountArach]

I was killed by the mafia and I can confirm KukriKhan's claim to being the town's resurrector. Obviously I can't quote anything, though Kukri is free to.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Well then.

Unvote: KukriKhan
Vote: shlin28

[KukriKhan]

I was killed by the mafia and I can confirm KukriKhan's claim to being the town's resurrector. Obviously I can't quote anything, though Kukri is free to.

Of course, quoting my role PM would be the best evidence, but:

NO QUOTING HOST'S PMS, NO QUOTING CHATLOGS, NO SCREENSHOTS, NO ALTERNATE ACCOUNTS, AND NO TRANSLATING HOST'S PM'S-You may quote PM's from other players. You may claim whatever you want, including role name, so long as you don't quote my PM's word for word, or very close to word for word. Also, you cannot reveal victory conditions. Period.

prevents that. But I'll post CA's and my PM traffic. "We report. You decide." :)

CA to me:

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It would appear that we are on the same side in Spirit Mafia. That is interesting. Makaikhaan told me that you are a "rather interesting and benevolent character" when I was using my ability on GH. I am guessing that you are the Detective. Would this assumption be correct? If you need any information to verify that I am trustworthy, feel free to ask.

I respond:

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I'm glad we're apparently on the same side. Makaikhaan used exactly the same words to describe you to me ("rather interesting and benevolent character") in response to my night action.

Later, CA to me:

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Well I assume that means we can probably trust each other. Good news.

I decide to trust, and reveal:

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I'm apparently something a little less than a detective - I don't get investigation results.

My role says that if someone I 'visit' is attacked, I too will be attacked. It also states: "You are protected by the 12 Heavenly Generals, and are thus invulnerable to any night attacks.", so my (admittedly, flimsey) plan has been to 'visit' the big names in mafia (CR on night1, no attack; GH on n2, where I met you, but no attack), hoping I could glean some info from the results of any attack.

I wish I had an intelligent question to ask you/test you, but I don't so far. So I'll just trust you blindly for now, based on instinct.

To try to help, I'll share: I have one amazing ability; I can raise one person/player from the dead in the game. Of course I'll save that trump card for later, when we (town) are floundering, and need a detective, or hero, or pro-town killer to come back.

In sum, I'm more of a doctor than a detective, unable to stop an attack, but able to survive it (them), and re-animate 1 single character.

If you have ideas on who I should 'visit', please feel free.

Regards,

Yakushi Nyarai, aka KukriKhan

We hatch a 'plan', although it's a loose one; CA to me:

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That role is very, very useful, especially when, as you said, the Detective is revealed. I am in fact the traditional Doctor role, so normally I would protect you with my night ability, but your invulnerability means I don't need to do that. I've protected GH both nights because he can be quite useful, and now that I think about it, it might be useful to continue with that for a short time.

My reasoning is that I thought of protecting him, you thought he was a chance of being attacked, and the Detective is likely to investigate him at some point. That means that if I am there to protect GH as well, I will meet with the Detective. We can then form a group of 3 pro-town people, as well as whoever the Detective has confirmed innocent.

I don't know who you should visit, perhaps some of the other big names?

CA, again, to me:

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That means that if I am there to protect GH as well, I will meet with the Detective. We can then form a group of 3 pro-town people, as well as whoever the Detective has confirmed innocent.

I respond:

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Now, that sounds like a plan. I will continue to visit the biggies, you keep protecting GH and we'll meet in the middle, approximately just before end-game.

Who/whatRole is GH, thaT you know of? Some kinda pro-town killer?

Cheers,

K

and responds to me:

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I have no idea. I wouldn't rule out killer, but either way if this works out, we will find out.

Several days pass; 2 days ago (13 Sep), I know we need to do something, and PM CA:

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3 bad guys, and apparently no champion/town-side fighter. I'm gonna have to play the re-animation card this next night phase, or it'll be useless.

I plan to resurrect YLC so he can get one good investigation in before we all die - assuming he really is the detective.

Any objections?

Cheers

Kukri

and his (CA's) reply to me:

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Sounds fine to me - if he wasn't the detective there would be a counter-claim.

Finally, I write to makaikhaan:

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In the next night-phase, I raise YLC from the dead. On the town's behalf, I only hope I'm not too late.

and here we are.

[CountArach]

I can confirm that those are the exact same PMs I have... just in case there is any doubt.

[ULC]

Okay, if i am reading this right, that puts

Innocent
KukriKhan
YLC
GeneralHankerchief
Crazed Rabbit

Possible Mafia
Sigurd
Glyphz
Chaotix27
Shlin28

Of those, 2 I revealed to are still alive, so

Vote: Sigurd

My suggestion is we lynch Sigurd and Investigate Glyphz and/or Shlin28.

You 4 better start defending yourselves, and well.

[KukriKhan]

Therefore, it is now time to "man-up", and everyone still alive: reveal.

[Crazed Rabbit]

My role is just a normal townie.

As for voting, looking back on shlin's seven posts during this game, he's never offered any analysis, he's only voted three times, and each of those votes has been accompanied by a one line statement that isn't very convincing.

vote:shlin

I think he's one of our mafia, trying to hide by lurking.

Kukri and CountArach - why not raise YLC much earlier and then have the doctor protect him? He would have been able to get so many more investigations in.

CR

[Sigurd]

Okay, if i am reading this right, that puts

Innocent
KukriKhan
YLC
GeneralHankerchief
Crazed Rabbit

Possible Mafia
Sigurd
Glyphz
Chaotix27
Shlin28

Of those, 2 I revealed to are still alive, so

Vote: Sigurd

My suggestion is we lynch Sigurd and Investigate Glyphz and/or Shlin28.

You 4 better start defending yourselves, and well.

How on earth does protecting GH during several rounds exonerate him? And what was the concluding evidence that shows CR is innocent? Any thing you guys with roles know that you haven't shared?
In fact, no-one has attacked GH or CR and made them innocent ... or?

Considering this being a makaikhaan game, I will be a little reluctant to fully trust any revealed pro-town roles. Being fooled by a resurrector in the last game kinda does that to you.

And I doubt shlin is guilty. He responded to the townies does not get any PMs thing with FactionHeir. Only vanilla townies know that makaihkaan sent a heads up PM.
I therefore believe shlin is a townie.

Any word from the blocker?

[glyphz]

Townie here, though you can't take my word for it.
I'd assume that all pro-town roles are revealed (YLaC, Kukri, CA, and maybe even Lord WInter (more on that later)), leaving the rest as townies or mafia. And we know the mafia are not gonna stand and say 'Mafia here.'
Us, townies (who are mixed w/ fake townies), can't do much to defend ourselves against this inquisition properly, until we die or get investigated. The only thing we can do is try to be productive here in the public thread, by helping the pro-town roles root out the mafia.
Here's me attempting to do that:

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1) It seems that there was 3 or maybe 4 mafia. 'Wolf w/ bag of wind,' 'Humanoid w/ book&brush,' 'Suicide baddie(?)' & 'Lightning guy.' From that, I'd assume LW is pro-town. I think this is likely fact.

2) The 4 guys YLaC revealed to were left alive and not targeted, until Omanes was lynched. Though that could mean a mafia may exist among us, I'd like to think that at that time (Rnd 2? + I gave YLaC 'selective' process a chance), that the chances of all of us being innocent is higher, and that the mafia left us alone as lynch bait, and why I was hesitant to vote for the other 3. This argument is very weak, and I think so too, because 4 being a very BIG & risky number to reveal to, and especially since YLaC died the next phase, and perhaps due to...

3) Humanoid mafia kept killing each round, till now. Lightning guy, last seen in Rnd1 and perhaps presumed dead by many, replaced him. Though credit to them for avoiding lynch this long, it'd be wise for mafia to have kept 'Lightning' hidden. I'd assume from this that Omanes, who was 1 of the 4 was actually mafia, specifically the 'humanoid,' discrediting point 2. This point can't be proven as fact though.

Vote: shlin28 Why?

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To me, that leaves shlin, Chaotix and GH (despite other's defending them), and maybe 2 (at worst 3) mafia left though CR and Sigurd aren't in the clear either. But, if I'm gonna go w/ my assumptions... shlin's guilty based on...
'that the mafia left us alone as lynch bait'
shlin has voted both me and CR on what I think is 'scummy' reasoning.

Vote: glyphz

Could it be possible that he betrayed YLC and led to his death?

I thought he just randomly picked me out of the 4, and let him be. Then..

Vote: CR

Bad vibes... That's right, thats my only reason...

:edit: If you doubt my 'townieness,' I'm fine w/ having YLC investigate me ...but since I claim town and this being the end game, I'd reason that an investigation on me is a waste. In the end, it's YLC's decision...

[shlin28]

Meh, I'm just a townie, I really got no defence apart from that.

In games where I am just a townie with no role pm I tend to post less, see older games for evidence So me being un-analytical is strictly normal.

Vote: Chaotix

I'm not even gonna try to save myself...

[Chaotix]

Yeah, I'd say we (or YLC, to be precise) should investigate glyphz for this turn. He, along with shlin, seem the most suspicious to me.

So

Vote: shlin28

and FoS:glyphz.

[Sigurd]

So .. shlin28 gets it.
I can't shake the feeling that we have been played by the mafia. That last night's kills were intentionally few.
We will see three kills again tonight and it is game over.

And CR do pose a interesting question. If Kukri and CA knew eachother's roles early in the game, why not resurrect the detective and protect him? Why wait until the game is nigh to twelve?

Ah well, I guess it is The Black Hand all over again.

[Sigurd]

I almost forgot; vote: GeneralHankerchief
It will be recorded that at least I voted the Godfather twice in this game when he laughs at us in his victory.