So, how fast CAN you complete a short campaign?

[Breetai]

Crusades completed as Egypt - 8 turns.

BEHOLD!




The entire thing was a complete blitzkrieg, complete with very dicey battles where I took out multiple stacks with single stacks of 'junk' units, and abused the crap out of the siege distance trick*.

Any other takers?





*(The trick is as follows. Ever try to attack/besiege a city with a stack of troops, only to find yourself JUST outside the city walls and unable to lay seige or start building equipment? Simply select a single cav unit, click and beseige the city with it, THEN move the rest of your army and merge with the cav unit. Behold - you've managed to essentially squeak out an extra single square of movement in a turn, and can take the city in one more turn instead of 2 more.)

[Askthepizzaguy]

You can bet your bottom dollar I will be trying this myself.

Can you complete Medieval 2 Total War, the Long Campaign in just 9 turns? Myself and one other have accomplished this feat.

[Quintus.JC]

You can bet your bottom dollar I will be trying this myself.

Can you complete Medieval 2 Total War, the Long Campaign in just 9 turns? Myself and one other have accomplished this feat.

The long campaign! seriously that's unbelievable. Did you really do that?

[_Tristan_]

Yes, he did...

I sure hope it was only bragging... It would mean the AI had some punch...

[Quintus.JC]

Yes, he did...

I sure hope it was only bragging... It would mean the AI had some punch...

Wow! 9 turns...

[SirRethcir]

Wow! 9 turns...

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...t=85054&page=2

[Quintus.JC]

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...t=85054&page=2

[ArtistofWarfare]

You can bet your bottom dollar I will be trying this myself.

Can you complete Medieval 2 Total War, the Long Campaign in just 9 turns? Myself and one other have accomplished this feat.

Obviously, using exploits.

Let's say you start with 5 provinces. You conquered 40 provinces in 9 turns? 4+ provinces per turn starting at turn 1?

I don't quite see how that's even physically possible unless of course, there are some exploits/tricks used.

Just like the OP here. He claims he completed the short campaign in 9 turns, and then explains how he used an exploit and cheated the system to do so. In my opinion, I don't see what's so exciting here.

[Warmaster Horus]

Ever tried the Crusade button, ArtistofWarfare? That's the exploit. Read ATPG's story about his Turks blitz game (where he got 106 provinces, the one advertised in his sig). Well explained.

[ArtistofWarfare]

Playing using exploits would be so utterly boring and pointless to me I would wind up turning the game off in under 5 minutes.

That's why some of us don't do it - It's not playing the game, it's beating the coding with an exploit.

To each their own, but I find it to be a total, total waste of time.

I just can't find these "feats" impressive, when the player cheated the game royally to accomplish them. I mean, I don't see that as a total war feat - I see it as a circumvention feat. It's just...not very interesting to me.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Since the Crusade option is available to both AI and human player then it is not an exploit.
Exploits would be merchants in a fort or the 8+1 trick..

Also.. considering how **** the AI is then even moving your units could be seen as an exploit by some.

[Ethelred Unread]

It's not so much as using the exploits that is amazing in ATPG's campaign, it's that it's done so quickly. As he says, make one mistake and you're screwed.

If you wanted to be hardcore about it , you could try to do it without save/reload.

Try a complete blitz campaign Artist and see how fast you can do it. It's not certainly not "easy" and with only vanilla it's probably the best way to make the game challenging.

[Ferret]

I bet if I used all the exploits I knew I could take over every province, including the new world, on turn one...

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I bet if I used all the exploits I knew I could take over every province, including the new world, on turn one...

Actually you just need the following console commands to do that - create_unit, character_reset, toggle_fow, auto_win

Using those you can take 106+America in turn one..
Now that is an interesting idea

[FactionHeir]

Nope. For that you also need move_character

[Ibn-Khaldun]

You are right.. I forgot that move_character is the only way to get to America

Edit: Well.. after I conquer everything in turn 1 then will the game continue? I will have some 80-90 turns to the Mongols I think then.

[Ferret]

Then you can use med manager to change the game date to the turn before the Mongols could first possible arrive, you could theoretically own the whole world and beat the Mongols and Timurids in about 5 turns

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Ok.. it took me 4 hours to win the game in 1 turn.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

I admire those who can conquer the world or finish campaign without cheats and exploits as fast as ATPG and Breetai have done. So this here is not mockery.

[Carlos Matthews]

4 whole hours lol.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

4 whole hours lol.

I would have done it faster but was distracted a lot

[Ferret]

AND WE HAVE A NEW BLITZMASTER!!!!! ATPG IS NO MORE, ALL HAIL KING IBN THE BUILDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All your blitz are belong to Ibn

[Askthepizzaguy]

Someone must be bored.

At least my win was legitimate! Impressive that you'd spend that kind of time on it though.

[decimator22]

His fingers most hurt LOL a lot of typing as copy paste doesn't work in TW games

[Ratwar]

His fingers most hurt LOL a lot of typing as copy paste doesn't work in TW games

Just press the up arrow, and the console automatically retypes your last command. ;)

[SirRethcir]

I bet if I used all the exploits I knew I could take over every province, including the new world, on turn one...

With all due respect, but that's not correct.
Exploits are exploits, but using the console has nothing to do with playing the game.

Do you know Speedruns?
That's what these blitzing campaigns are all about. To show what's possible within the ruleset the game gives us.
Speedruns are a very special way to play a game. Noone expect you to play it that way, nor do I play the games in that way - for most of the time. And Speedruns demand planing and some insight in game mechanism.
That said, yes, these people deserve some kind of respect.

So, be kind and excuse my first sentence.

[uanime5]

Someone should record these speed runs using FRAPS and send them to http://speeddemosarchive.com/ . It'd be fun to show everyone just how fast this game can be completed.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

With all due respect, but that's bullshit.
Exploits are exploits, but using the console has nothing to do with playing the game.

Do you know Speedruns?
That's what these blitzing campaigns are all about. To show what's possible within the ruleset the game gives us.
Speedruns are a very special way to play a game. Noone expect you to play it that way, nor do I play the games in that way - for most of the time. And Speedruns demand planing and some insight in game mechanism.
That said, yes, these people deserve some kind of respect.

So, be kind and excuse my first sentence.

I believe they were just kidding around. Both Elite Ferret and Ibn-Khaldun are my loyal zombie slaves... I mean fans.

They mean you no harm. They just want to tear your flesh from your body with their ravenously cannibalistic fangs... I mean, give you a warm, friendly hug.

[SirRethcir]

They mean you no harm.

No problem from my side, but I had (have?) the feeling that they don't know what they are talking about.
By the way, there are 'Smilies' for that purpose.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Well.. I found out in my '1 turn campaign' that I was able to call a crusade 3 times!!
Looks like if I end the Crusade in the same turn it was called then I am able to call another one again in the same turn..

Edit: Why just 3 times? Well.. because I run out of settlements to conquer

[Ferret]

With all due respect, but that's
Exploits are exploits, but using the console has nothing to do with playing the game.

Do you know Speedruns?
That's what these blitzing campaigns are all about. To show what's possible within the ruleset the game gives us.
Speedruns are a very special way to play a game. Noone expect you to play it that way, nor do I play the games in that way - for most of the time. And Speedruns demand planing and some insight in game mechanism.
That said, yes, these people deserve some kind of respect.

So, be kind and excuse my first sentence.

Guess there's no point in replying to a post that breaks forum rules....

But yeah you should feel shame, I was joking and judging from the fact that everyone else knew that was clear, which means you don't have any reason to swear at me...