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    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1221...2_1577_leftbox


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    Crisis on Wall Street as Lehman Totters,
    Merrill Is Sold, AIG Seeks to Raise Cash
    Fed Will Expand Its Lending Arsenal in a Bid to Calm Markets;
    Moves Cap a Momentous Weekend for American Finance
    By CARRICK MOLLENKAMP, SUSANNE CRAIG, SERENA NG and AARON LUCCHETTI
    September 15, 2008; Page A1


    The American financial system was shaken to its core on Sunday. Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. faced the prospect of liquidation, and Merrill Lynch & Co. agreed to be sold to Bank of America Corp.

    The U.S. government, which bailed out Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac a week ago and orchestrated the sale of Bear Stearns Cos. to J.P. Morgan Chase & Co. in March, played much tougher with Lehman. It refused to provide a financial backstop to potential buyers.
    [A man walks out of the Lehman Brothers building carrying a box of his belongings, in New York, September 14, 2008. Talks faltered when Britain]
    Reuters
    A man walks out of the Lehman Brothers building carrying a box of his belongings, in New York, Sept. 14.

    Without such support, Barclays PLC and Bank of America, the two most interested buyers, walked away. On Sunday night, Bank of America struck a deal to buy Merrill Lynch for $29 a share, or about $44 billion. Lehman was working on a possible bankruptcy filing that would allow most of its subsidiaries to continue operating as the firm is wound down.

    Though it steered clear of a bailout, the Federal Reserve is expected to take new steps to stabilize the broader financial system. These steps, expected to be temporary, would make it easier for banks and securities firms to borrow from the central bank by using a wider range of collateral. Bankers say these financial institutions might need short-term funds as they unwind their many trading positions with Lehman.

    In addition, 10 major commercial and investment banks announced Sunday night that they would pool $70 billion of their own money to create a borrowing facility. The 10 institutions, which include Citigroup Inc., Credit Suisse Group, Deutsche Bank AG, could tap the pool to help them ride out the crisis. The banks also said they are mutually committed to trying to mitigate market volatility.

    A sense of foreboding gripped Wall Street as top executives feared collateral damage from a Lehman liquidation. Attention was focused on Merrill Lynch, which boasts the largest force of retail brokers, and American International Group Inc., the insurance giant. Both firms have seen their stocks get hammered on worries that they needed capital.

    "Monday will be a day of reckoning for the financial markets," said Carlos Mendez, senior managing director of ICP Capital, a boutique investment firm in New York. On Sunday, he said, "it was like a fire alarm went off and people ran in all directions."

    How long will it be before the financial sector is stabilized, and what will it take to help bring that about? How should investors respond in the meantime? Share your thoughts.

    AIG executives spent the weekend trying to raise cash, either from asset sales or a capital infusion from private-equity firms, or both. AIG executives were meeting with regulators to see if they could transfer capital from some of its subsidiaries to the holding company.

    As worries spread across Wall Street that Lehman wouldn't survive, brokerage firms, hedge funds and other traders moved to disentangle themselves from trades with Lehman. When hopes of a potential sale dimmed, a quiet Sunday on Wall Street turned into a mad rush. Executives and traders hurried to their offices or worked their phones to unwind outstanding contracts with Lehman and to gauge their overall exposure.

    Merrill, whose brokerage force is known as the "thundering herd," quietly entered into discussions with Bank of America, which has retail bank branches stretching from coast to coast and has long coveted Merrill. Wall Street executives said the Federal Reserve may have been involved in orchestrating the sale, figuring that it was "better to save the relatively healthy patient instead of the dying one," said a lawyer involved in the discussions.

    Lehman, a 158-year-old firm that started as an Alabama cotton brokerage, and Merrill, with its trademark bull logo, have been pillars of Wall Street for much of the past century. With the demise of Bear Stearns, three of the Street's five major independent brokers could end up disappearing, leaving only Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and Morgan Stanley.


    "We have never seen anything like this," said analyst Glenn Schorr, who covers the investment banks for UBS AG. "There have been tough situations like Long-Term Capital Management and the crash of 1987, but the problem here is there is leverage in the securities under the microscope and in the banks that own them. And to try and unwind it all at once creates a one-way market where there are only sellers, and no buyers."

    The convulsions could lead to even tighter credit, higher borrowing costs and moribund capital markets, as securities firms and commercial banks try to further limit risk and preserve capital. Those moves could cause the U.S. economy to slow further.

    The future of about 25,000 employees at Lehman and an additional 60,000 at Merrill is up in the air. Lehman's work force already has shrunk by about 3,000 in the past year. If the firm essentially goes out of business, most of the remaining employees are likely to lose their jobs. That would deal another blow to New York City's economy, resulting in lower tax revenues on personal income, real-estate transactions and corporate income.

    The damage on Wall Street is the latest consequence of a storm that began last year with the sharp decline in American housing prices and losses on loans and other assets tied to home values. Massive capital infusions have failed to stem write-offs and losses, and financial firms are running out of options to escape the damage.

    Regulators and others were preparing for a hectic Monday. The New York Stock Exchange prepared contingency plans over the weekend to reassign the approximately 200 blue-chip stocks that Lehman's specialist unit trades, according to people familiar with the matter. If Lehman is forced into liquidation, the exchange will likely transfer the stocks to one or more of the remaining specialist firms, most likely using the same technology and staff that currently trade the stocks.

    Dozens of Wall Street desks have trades with Lehman. As word spread that the Barclays deal was falling apart, worries that the company could be thrown into bankruptcy mounted, and traders labored to get out of those contracts.

    At approximately 2:30 p.m., government officials hosted a call, and a trading session was opened to ease fears. One trader said it was agreed that other brokers would pick up contracts that trading desks have with Lehman. If Lehman does open on Monday, the deals struck on Sunday, often at a worse price, would be void. "It is utter chaos here," the trader said.

    At many Wall Street firms, traders of credit-default swaps -- contracts that act as insurance against debt defaults -- were told to come to work immediately. Concerned investors were rushing to buy swaps tied to other brokerages and corporations, sending the cost of protection on investment banks such as Goldman Sachs and others sharply higher.

    In a statement Sunday, the International Swaps and Derivatives Association, a trade group whose members include many large dealers, said a "netting trading session" took place between 2 p.m. and 6 p.m. on Sunday. The idea was to allow firms to try to unwind their derivatives transactions with Lehman by finding other parties to step into Lehman's shoes.


    "The purpose of this session is to reduce risk associated with a potential Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. bankruptcy filing," it said. It added that trades conducted during this period "are contingent on a bankruptcy filing on or before 11:59 p.m. New York time" on Sunday. If no filing takes place, the trades will be canceled, ISDA said.

    Some traders said it was difficult to find new counterparties for many of their outstanding trades with Lehman. The snags included different terms and maturity dates on derivatives contracts, and market prices changed rapidly Sunday afternoon. "People were screaming at each other over the phone, asking: How can this work?" one trader said.

    William Gross, chief investment officer at bond-fund giant Pacific Investment Management Co., said very few Lehman trades were offset. "There's an immediate risk related to the unwind of these positions," he said.

    Many Wall Street firms concluded that a liquidation of Lehman's assets likely would proceed in an orderly fashion, people familiar with the situation said. That means other firms could quickly buy real estate, securities and other investments, preventing the assets from flooding the market. Because of that, these people said, some participants in the New York Fed talks decided that liquidation was no worse an option than selling Lehman to a buyer such as Barclays.

    "There will be an orderly wind down," said one banker involved in the matter. "This was the default option. It happens when you have no buyer."

    The outside firms decided that instead of making guarantees for Barclays or some other purchaser of Lehman, they would prefer to pool their resources and buy the assets themselves, taking on the risks and carrying costs, along with the possibility of profiting down the road.

    Those firms would likely then buy assets such as mortgage-backed securities, leveraged loans, private-equity positions and investments in real estate or hedge funds.

    Roger Freeman, a nine-year Lehman employee who analyzes brokerage firms, spent the weekend gathering cellphone numbers and email addresses from colleagues who also are likely to lose their jobs. He plans to clean out his desk Monday morning. "We worked long hours here, we've made some of our best friends here. We're suddenly being ripped apart," he said. "It's just unbelievable."


    Lehman, a 158-year-old firm that started as an Alabama cotton brokerage, and Merrill, with its trademark bull logo, have been pillars of Wall Street for much of the past century. With the demise of Bear Stearns, three of the Street's five major independent brokers could end up disappearing, leaving only Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and Morgan Stanley.
    This is very serious.The market reacted very badly today.



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    I think we are sunk. I feel like we've had a year long stomach bug and just can't stop throwing up. It can either clear up or we can dehydrate and die.
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    Companies fail. Sometimes Big companies fail. Sometimes big companies with allot of investments fail. Are we in a bad time? Yes. Should we be selling everything and moving to the woods? no.
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    There is an upside to everything. Complete collapse of society would allow me to indulge in my horrific underlying blood lust while forging massive alliances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TuffStuffMcGruff View Post
    There is an upside to everything. Complete collapse of society would allow me to indulge in my horrific underlying blood lust while forging massive alliances.
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    $50 billion? bill gates could have straight up bought merrill lynch. lol?
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    now i'm here, and history is vindicated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TuffStuffMcGruff View Post
    There is an upside to everything. Complete collapse of society would allow me to indulge in my horrific underlying blood lust while forging massive alliances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian II View Post
    Aye, there's a man after my heart!

    Well, plans to paint the world orange aside, what this really shows us is that even large mega corporations can collapse. Maybe they don't run the world after all. Or maybe some bigger, megaer corporation is secretly pulling the strings here.

    Maybe it's the work of Big Bottled Water!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    Companies fail. Sometimes Big companies fail. Sometimes big companies with allot of investments fail. Are we in a bad time? Yes. Should we be selling everything and moving to the woods? no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goofball View Post
    Out of the mouths of babes...
    A biblical reference! I love you!!
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    Well, AIG get the federal bailout. $85 billion loan for an 80% stake in the company. Assets should cover the taxpayer bill, the bailout is for an ordered breakup of company assets instead of a firesale.
    http://money.cnn.com/2008/09/16/news...ex.htm?cnn=yes

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    And can a mod merge the Freddie/Fannie thread with this one, they are pretty much dupes at this point.
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    Well the market took a big upward swing this afternoon after hearing that the Treasury Department has a plan to bail out financial institutions by buying their bad assets. Clicky

    The bank rescue concept, as reported by CNBC, would involve creating a federally-chartered company that would buy the bad assets of banks, investment banks and others. The financial institutions would then be able to raise new capital and lend money and finance new ventures.
    Sounds like a great deal if you are a bank, I wonder if the banks will offer a similar deal to their credit card holders. The banks could take back some of the “bad assts” that were purchased with credit and allow me card holders to borrow more money and finance new bad assets ventures.
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    Yeah. So what? That's a whole lot of optimism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwordsMaster View Post
    Yeah. So what? That's a whole lot of optimism.
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    It may prove to be possible to fix the system for far less than $1,000bn- $2,000bn.
    $2,000bn = $2,000,000,000,000. That's a lot of zero's. No wonder they don't wanna say "2 Trillion", being charged on the gov't credit card.

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    There is no free market, only a freer market. I'm surprised to hear ideological indignation from fiscal conservatives about regulation. It is disgusting that the Federal government is doing all of these bailouts. It is disgusting that the corruption has run so deep for so long. I support discussions about a solution to this stuff that won't result in another insane bailout putting all of the risk on taxpayers and all of the payout to the mis-management.

    Anti-trust and monopoly laws were a good thing from what I know about them - these were'nt "free-market" moves, but they sure were sensible ones. People who believe the government should have nothing to do with anything are anarchists. Markets are tools for good when you keep fraudsters to a minimum - when they run rampant, markets tear peace and stability apart.

    I'm for what works both in the short and long term. Capitalism has nothing to do with my moral code unless it is a tool to strengthen it. When it becomes an impediment or it becomes more useful to degenerates we should all take another look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TuffStuffMcGruff View Post
    There is no free market, only a freer market. I'm surprised to hear ideological indignation from fiscal conservatives about regulation. It is disgusting that the Federal government is doing all of these bailouts. It is disgusting that the corruption has run so deep for so long. I support discussions about a solution to this stuff that won't result in another insane bailout putting all of the risk on taxpayers and all of the payout to the mis-management.

    Anti-trust and monopoly laws were a good thing from what I know about them - these were'nt "free-market" moves, but they sure were sensible ones. People who believe the government should have nothing to do with anything are anarchists. Markets are tools for good when you keep fraudsters to a minimum - when they run rampant, markets tear peace and stability apart.

    I'm for what works both in the short and long term. Capitalism has nothing to do with my moral code unless it is a tool to strengthen it. When it becomes an impediment or it becomes more useful to degenerates we should all take another look.

    It's not disgusting at all, Tuff. It's easy to speak of theory. What's difficult is actually sticking to that theory and watching the economy go in the crap hole for a long time.



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