Call in gay tomorrow

[Goofball]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28118228/

DD and TSM, I hope you both enjoy your day off...



On a serious note, I think it's an excellent idea...

[Tribesman]

I think its a stupid idea , just think how much money the televangelist channels will lose with their key staff missing .

[Vladimir]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28118228/

DD and TSM, I hope you both enjoy your day off...



On a serious note, I think it's an excellent idea...

Have a super day!

[Crazed Rabbit]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28118228/

DD and TSM, I hope you both enjoy your day off...



On a serious note, I think it's an excellent idea...

So the gay people are saying being gay is a sickness?

CR

[Ser Clegane]

So the gay people are saying being gay is a sickness?

CR

It seems more likely that, by using this phrase, they are taking a shot at people who claim it is a sickness

[Ronin]

you know who I feel sorry for?

the straight guy that gets sick with the flu tomorrow and calls in sick.

good luck living that one down

[drone]

Guess there's no point in getting my hair cut tomorrow...

[Goofball]

Have a super day!

I believe you meant to say "Have a fabulous day!"

[Devastatin Dave]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28118228/

DD and TSM, I hope you both enjoy your day off...



On a serious note, I think it's an excellent idea...

I'm spending my special day picking out new window treatments. My current one's are sooooooo 2007...

[Goofball]

I'm spending my special day picking out new window treatments. My current one's are sooooooo 2007...

I love that you actually said "window treatments."

[Hosakawa Tito]

Gives new meaning to the phrase "I got your back,

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sweet cheeks."

[ICantSpellDawg]

If gays left the work force during a recession that wouldn't be bad for anybody. I urge you all not to go into work tomorrow irrespective of your sexual fetishes.

[CrossLOPER]

fetishes

You don't know what that word means.

[KukriKhan]

You don't know what that word means.

<-----fetish; an object believed to have magical or spiritual powers; especially such an object associated with animistic or shamanistic religious practices.

*image used w/permission.*

[Louis VI the Fat]

Just to be sure, I went straight to work this morning!

[KukriKhan]

Just to be sure, I went straight to work this morning!

Q: Are you as hysterically funny in French as you are in English?

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

If gays left the work force during a recession that wouldn't be bad for anybody. I urge you all not to go into work tomorrow irrespective of your sexual fetishes.

Yes, no one will notice the absense of ten percent of the workforce. Whater you may think of people's preferences you shouldn't detach yourself from reality.

[ICantSpellDawg]

Yes, no one will notice the absense of ten percent of the workforce. Whater you may think of people's preferences you shouldn't detach yourself from reality.

Well I can't guarantee you that 10% of the work force wouldn't show up - and one day wouldn't kill anybody. Let them do it.

I would be concerned if illegals left the country or stopped working in droves - If gays did the same thing it would open decent paying jobs up to people and then we wouldn't have to hear about all that nonsense anymore.

I speak of "fetishism" regarding homosexuality as the sexual interest in the "Male" object as it interferes with normal sexual function. I believe that normal sexual function is heterosexual/procreative and anything that interferes or diverts that interest in a sexual way without a physiological cause is a fetish.

[Ronin]

I speak of "fetishism" regarding homosexuality as the sexual interest in the "Male" object as it interferes with normal sexual function. I believe that normal sexual function is heterosexual/procreative and anything that interferes or diverts that interest in a sexual way without a physiological cause is a fetish.

I will agree with you that homosexuality is not "normal".......heterosexuality is.

but it is not a choice, it´s not something extra you do for extra kicks...it´s a sexual orientation, so I don´t think it can be called a fetish.

[ICantSpellDawg]

I will agree with you that homosexuality is not "normal".......heterosexuality is.

but it is not a choice, it´s not something extra you do for extra kicks...it´s a sexual orientation, so I don´t think it can be called a fetish.

I believe that it is a choice, but likely an unconscious one for some. Some people are sexually attracted to a number of things. Without data suggesting a physiological imperative I can only assume that they are a fetish.

We have clear evidence to suggest what genital function is biologically. There is no evidence to suggest a chemical imbalance, genetic pre-disposition or biological function to homosexuality.

There are associations that can be made; such as the younger the male child, the more likely it is that he will be a homosexual statistically - but this says nothing of cause/association.

There have been a few odd studies that come to strange conclusions - but those conclusions are never said to shed light on the physiological or genetic differences. Some say it happens in the womb/ others refute that.

To date - I don't think the government should ban things that are choice based if they are consensual on private property. I do think that we are jumping the gun declaring homosexuality to be as inherent as being black, Asian, female, male, or disabled.

[Lemur]

I believe that it is a choice, but likely an unconscious one for some. Some people are sexually attracted to a number of things. Without data suggesting a physiological imperative I can only assume that they are a fetish.

There's plenty of data about measurable hormonal differences between straight men and gay, if you'd care to do the reading.

If homosexuality is a choice, can you also pinpoint the moment when you decided to be straight? And if being with women is nothing more than a choice, could you just as easily abandon them and spend the rest of your life having sex with men?

[ICantSpellDawg]

There's plenty of data about measurable hormonal differences between straight men and gay, if you'd care to do the reading.

If homosexuality is a choice, can you also pinpoint the moment when you decided to be straight? And if being with women is nothing more than a choice, could you just as easily abandon them and spend the rest of your life having sex with men?

Lemur - heterosexuality is a biologically proven imperative. Genitalia has a clear function.

Homosexuals can't show why there's is biologically wrong. We've had this argument way too often. You don't see heterosexuality as any more inherent than homosexuality? Who are you kidding?

We don't understand the role of hormones much at all. We understand basic effect, but not always what causes increases or decreases. If there is a hormonal imbalance that doesn't mean that it isn't caused by something like habit or mood. I think that we have quite a bit more control over mood than we would like to believe. The tests that I believe you were referring to were of hormones in the womb affecting the determination.

Anyway:

The American Psychiatric Association reports "There are no replicated scientific studies supporting any specific biological etiology [cause or origin] for homosexuality." The APA further states "No specific psychosocial or family dynamic cause for homosexuality has been identified, including histories of childhood sexual abuse."

[Devastatin Dave]

If homosexuality is a choice, can you also pinpoint the moment when you decided to be

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GAY

?

It was when I first met you, Sugar Turds...

[Ser Clegane]

The American Psychiatric Association reports "There are no replicated scientific studies supporting any specific biological etiology [cause or origin] for homosexuality." The APA further states "No specific psychosocial or family dynamic cause for homosexuality has been identified, including histories of childhood sexual abuse."

Interesting ... what I found on the Q&A page on homosexuality of the "American Psychological Association" is the following:

What causes a person to have a particular sexual orientation?

There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay, or lesbian orientation. Although much research has examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social, and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors. Many think that nature and nurture both play complex roles; most people experience little or no sense of choice about their sexual orientation.

So it seems your claims that is a "choice" are not really based on anything either. Or are you able to link to a direct statement (i.e. not from a third-party website that considers homosexuality to be an curable illness) of the American Psychiatric Association that supports the "choice" theory or claims that biological causes are definitely not responsible?

[ICantSpellDawg]

Interesting ... what I found on the Q&A page on homosexuality of the "American Psychological Association" is the following:



So it seems your claims that is a "choice" are not really based on anything either. Or are you able to link to a direct statement (i.e. not from a third-party website that considers homosexuality to be an curable illness) of the American Psychiatric Association that supports the "choice" theory or claims that biological causes are definitely not responsible?

Correct. I keep that opinion as a bulwark against those who seem to be winning the PR war with their "born that way" or "no choice" argument.

I have made my case that there is a biological argument suggesting that homosexuals are born with heterosexual functions and that, without evidence suggesting inherent homosexuality, the default position is that we are all heterosexuals.

I consider pedophiles fetishists because they are fixated on children for their sexual gratification, not on an individual basis, but simply because childhood innocence is the object. I am not calling homosexuality and pedophilia equal, but the attraction seems to not be evidently biological or conclusively hard wired.

[Devastatin Dave]

Interesting ... what I found on the Q&A page on homosexuality of the "American Psychological Association" is the following:



So it seems your claims that is a "choice" are not really based on anything either. Or are you able to link to a direct statement (i.e. not from a third-party website that considers homosexuality to be an curable illness) of the American Psychiatric Association that supports the "choice" theory or claims that biological causes are definitely not responsible?

Its "Bushes" fault. Pun intended.

[Rhyfelwyr]

If it wasn't a choice then no gay people would be able to turn straight, and yet they do.

[Ser Clegane]

If it wasn't a choice then no gay people would be able to turn straight, and yet they do.

I guess you also have some reliable evidence that the ability to "turn straight" is more than just some anecdotal observation but a rather common thing?
(I hope you know that being homosexual or heterosexual entails more than just having sex with a parther of the same or the opposite sex)

[Louis VI the Fat]

I think you just need some sex, Tuff. It's not good for a man to abstain voluntarily. It only leads to tension and frustration. In your case, the frustration has led to two things: addiction to pornography and aggressiveness towards gays.

The tragedy is, that human sex is by no means biologically intended just to procreate. It serves a crucial social function too. This is why human females, unlike apes, show no physical signs of fertility. Without a calendar, you wouldn't know. Because you shouldn't know, it could interfere with the biological need to engage in sex whenever a social situation calls for it. To say that sex biologically serves only procreation is as bizar as saying that all human interaction needs a business transaction. After all, why should anybody ever sit down to just talk to somebody else if it were not for an exchange of goods?

So you are engaging in deviant, unnatural sexual behaviour by limiting yourself to pro-creative sex. Instead of engaging in sex as a social act. Just like pedophiles do. I am not calling you and pedophiles equal, but the attraction seems to not be evidently biological or conclusively hard wired.


Or, the shorter version: sex is not all that important or heavyhanded. Not worth obsessing about. Just a way for two people to have some fun. Just do it, or at the very least let other consenting adults have their fun. What's it to us what other people do and it's a free country etcetera

[Devastatin Dave]

Back to the thread's subject, Buttom Busters' Hooky day has come and passed and the economic damage done seems to have only infected the hairdressing industry, some florist shops, and the stall usage in public restrooms. I guess we'll have to analyse the data in the coming weeks to figure out if this protest really did anything or went down.... in flames.