Quote Originally Posted by Tribesman
No its not by anyone outside of israel.
fixed it for ya. but realize that saying "anyone" you mean governments, not people. im sure there are many all over the world who say that jeruslaem is the capital of israel.

Quote Originally Posted by tibilicus View Post
I'm pretty sure Tel Aviv is meant to be that capitol of Israel but after the war Israel decided to keep the city as their little war trophy. In reality as the original partition suggests Jerusalem should be a U.N administrated neutral city but hey, Israel just thought they'd keep it. Jerusalem shouldn't even be in their hands but hey as the ruling Israelis would say "land, land , land."
not a trophy. in jerusalem is the holiest site in judaism, the western wall. considering the UN is pretty inept, do you think that they would keep it an international city? i think not. most likely jews and arabs would be shooting at each other while the UN peace keepers would stand down, since they havent been fired upon. at least thats what they did in Rwanda, AFAIK.

Quote Originally Posted by Fahad I View Post
Of course we don't think it belongs to Israel, Palestinians had to go through metal detectors to enter the second holiest mosque in Islam. Not only that, but they were massacred in it.
Frankly, I don't put the whole blame on Israel due to what happened recently, just most of it. I admire the fact that a single Israeli is enough for them to go crazy. At least they're not sitting on their asses while their brothers are being massacred.
you forget that before israel was established jews, to visit THE HOLIEST site in Judaism they had to pass through hostile arabs neighborhoods, and one Rosh HAshanah, the jewish new year, they were massacred by arabs at the Western Wall. btw i thought the Masjid Al-Aqsa was the THIRD most holy site to islam.

Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir View Post
Hey man, give peace a chance.
let hamas give peace a chance first.

Quote Originally Posted by Jolt View Post
Wrong. The attacks were a consequence, not a cause. The problems began when the UN created a country where it shouldn't have created, and illegitimately, because by doing so, they'd have to create a bucketload more of countries whose people also want independence. If, instead of Israel, there had been a joint Arab-Jew Palestine, then there would have been no attack. But the jews wanted a country of their own, where they wouldn't have to share power with the arabs.
how could it be joint-arab jew if a bit before that there were riots on both sides against the other? the people at the UN recognized this. it wasnt as if they were living in peace only until Israel was created. the result was that former Palestine was split up into two, and jordan was given as a whole to the palestinians.

Quote Originally Posted by Idaho View Post
Israel is an apartheid state founded on ethnic cleansing. On top of which it is aggressive and expansionist and has killed over 3000 Palestinians in the last few years. It isn't that suprising that it gets a hundred or so casualties from Palestinian attacks. They are just lucky in their enemies. The Palestinian strategy is stuck in a losing rut.
really? i idnt see any death camps for palestinians.
nor do i see them aggressively expanding as of now. if they were, wed have syria, lebabnon, jordan and id wager much of egypt.

and if the palestinians were in a losing rut, wouldnt it make sense for them to lay down their arms. oh wait- thats unreasonable to ask of hamas.
i guarantee you that if the palestinians would lay down their arms, israel would to. they would live peacefully together if the arabs stopped aiming for our destruction.