All right, it's hurricane time. I'm going to split my post into two parts, one of them being my defense and the other being my comments on what's been going on in the game.
For my defense, ATPG, I'm mostly going to pick on your post, since it serves what I want to say.
You note my previous contributions to the .Org and the Gameroom in particular and you compare my current activity to them, pointing out the difference:
Clearly, you've done some homework and read my past games. However, this paints an improper picture. If you really want to analyze the trends, what you need to do is read each and every single one of my 5,000+ posts, especially analyzing the dates over a broad range of time. Naturally, I don't blame you for doing this. Heck, I know I wouldn't do this with anybody else. However, when it comes to discussing my greater activity as a whole I can do it since I've, you know, lived it.He's the man who single handedly brought mafia to the org, if I am not mistaken, and organized and hosted some of the biggest mafia games of the org, while keeping tabs on results and writeups and revealing inside information afterwards... How many games is he in right now? One of the games is basically almost over and there's not much else to do.
I brought Mafia to the .Org in June 2006, which was abotu two and a half years ago. In 2006 alone, I hosted five of my eight big games, providing a commentary on each. This was done over the period of half a year, mind. In 2007, I only hosted two big games, and only provided a commentary in one of them. Now, part of this was due to the increasing popularity of the Gameroom, but also keep in mind I had double the time and still only hosted two games. In addition, the "Gameroom got bigger" explanation doesn't properly explain my lack of commentary for Mafia VII. Now, in 2008, I only hosted one large game, Mafia VIII. This was done, for the most part, over the summer, when I did not have school to worry about and only worked a small, part-time job.
In addition to my hosting less, I've also played less. TinCow already pointed out my essential bowing out of LotR recently. But in the past year and a half I've also taken two extended breaks from Mafia, not playing a single game for months at a time. Now, it's probably true that I've played multiple games in the past. However, if I have, I certainly haven't done so for a long time. Comparing my 2009 data from my 2006 and early 2007 data only while leaving out my mid/late 2007 and 2008 data is folly. This is a significant jump in activity for me, relatively speaking. And while I'm trying to become more active in the Gameroom and make this new behavior the norm, I'm not sure if I can pull it off. My desire to join this game in the first place was out of a desire to play a "big" game (even among Large games) again. I'm naturally partial to khaan's Chicago Soiree, because, hey, that style of game is my specialty.
Now, as far as my actual behavior (and not lack, thereof) goes:
First of all, just as a general point, much of your attacks on me come from my past behavior. Let me just say that if you don't think I naturally and purposely evolve my behavior/tactics, shame on you. It's good overall play to do this. Otherwise, you stand at risk of becoming like Seamus and Kommodus, who, while excellent townies, are as predictable as the sunrise and stand out like a sore thumb when they become mafia.
You say this is scummy but don't give an explanation.I was thinking that you weren't acting scummy, but not after this statement.Hurts, doesn't it?
I know this goes against my previous statement, but I've always argued this path. When you have two polar opposite targets in a situation so ambiguous, you take them both down just to be certain you got the right person. I believe I was one of the first to push for this in Cosa Nuova I, when Sasaki and Kagemusha counterclaimed each other as Detective in the first round. In my mind, you can't beat the brute-force approach, especially early in the game. Efficient? Not really. Effective? Yes.https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=266
Interesting you are so sure, at such an early juncture, about our path forward and who we should lynch.
Would it surprise you to know that good players do this as town too? Sasaki destroyed me in Godfather 2 using argumentative behavior and point-by-point responses trying to poke holes in my (false) claim as Detective.Argumentative. Point by point responses. Would it surprise you to know Sasaki exhibits such behavior as mafia? Most veteran players that I know do, and I've analyzed their behavior.
I wasn't referring to PK in Taormina, I was referring to him in Midgard when he was criticizing for me trying to Holmgang people, saying that my pursuit of fun (similar to Reenk's in this game) was detrimental to the town and that I should stop.Turning into PK? PrivateerKev was mafia in the last game, as I recall.
How in God's name did it look like he had a pro-town role? All he was doing at the time was singularly focusing discussion on him (bad, since it lets the mafia slip by under the radar) and mocking us all. This was not good town behavior. Yes, it looks now that he was pretty much a townie. However, hindsight is 20/20. Find me ONE PERSON who thought this way before he got lynched. Everybody thought he had some special role, good or bad. I thought bad. This point of yours makes no sense.At such an early juncture, it's easy to ask someone "why shouldn't you be lynched?"... it could be townie behavior, but maybe you simply wanted to know what his hidden role was. He obviously had one. He smells like a townie, too, in retrospect.
As pointed out in that post, I was going back to school and thus my mind was elsewhere than on the game. Considering that I missed the vote in the last round, I didn't want to become WoG-bait.GH abstains. You know, he abstains when he's mafia too. And why would you abstain past the first round or so? Nice excuse for not being here. (Hey, maybe it's real, I don't know, and I'm the last person who can safely accuse you... but still. I have to.)
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I was going to finish my post with something besides a defense, but I need to be off and doing something else now. I hope people actually read it and consider the points I made.
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