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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Corleone View Post
    Obama is going back on a promise to see to it that Specter would not be opposed in the PA Democratic primary. I consider this the most likely scenario....
    Pretty sure POTUS has no say in who can run in a state primary. Even a popular President does not have that power.

    Also, don't forget one of the defining characteristics of the Democratic Party: anarchy. Thia ain't the GOP we're talking about, it's the Dems. If Sleestax wants to defy Obama and run against Specter, he'll do so. About the only thing Obama can do to oppose him is direct DNC funds toward the Mummy King.

    Remember, Don, no matter how many magazine covers a politician graces, we're not talking about royalty here. We're still a Republic. If Obama promised Specter he would run unpposed (and I've never seen that documented, so I'd love a linkie), the the Obammesiah was writing checks he can't cash.

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    What? Nothing on the Dems losing Teddy's seat? I'm appalled....
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    Health care is probably toast. To the Dems with their inability to govern, Nelson Muntz has something to say...
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    Overall, I'm not sure how I feel about this. If it means the death of Obamacare, I guess it's a good thing. But, I don't think the GOP has spent enough time in the wilderness yet to have learned from the mistakes that got them out of power in the first place.....

    Also, with 60 votes in the Senate, Democrats had noone to blame but themselves for their inability to accomplish anything besides pork and kickbacks. Now they'll have GOP filibusters to blame for not being able to pass their unpopular policies.
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    Well, the GOP isn't out of the wilderness yet, and probably won't be in charge after the midterms, but this is a definite wakeup call to the Democrats. I'm just happy to have a speed bump in the sausage making process. Uncle Ted must be spinning pretty fast.
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    The irony being it was Teddy's political maneuvering designed to keep republicans out of office that led to this (Back in 04, he got the state to change the law so replacement Senators wouldn't be appointed by the governor, then Mitt Romney, and instead be elected).



    Also, respect for Jim Webb:
    Sen. Jim Webb puts out a statement that puts the notion of a quick Senate vote out of reach and pretty much makes a certification fight moot:

    In many ways the campaign in Massachusetts became a referendum not only on health care reform but also on the openness and integrity of our government process. It is vital that we restore the respect of the American people in our system of government and in our leaders. To that end, I believe it would only be fair and prudent that we suspend further votes on health care legislation until Senator-elect Brown is seated.

    And good luck getting Lieberman to vote for cloture this week, anyway.
    I do hope the GOP doesn't get to big headed about this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Webb
    In many ways the campaign in Massachusetts became a referendum not only on health care reform but also on the openness and integrity of our government process.
    Except that Massachusetts already has Universal Healthcare and thus would not be impacted all too heavily by this.

    I'm interested in what this will mean for the Senate tactics of the Dems. Hopefully less pandering to Liebermann because 60 is pretty much out of reach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountArach View Post
    Except that Massachusetts already has Universal Healthcare and thus would not be impacted all too heavily by this.

    I'm interested in what this will mean for the Senate tactics of the Dems. Hopefully less pandering to Liebermann because 60 is pretty much out of reach.
    John Stewert said something about this last night, namely that the Republicans never had such as large majority when George W. Bush "did whatever the **** he wanted", and that you have to go back to the 1920's in order to find such a majority.

    So, Democrats < Labour.
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