U.S. Senate: Burning Down the House

[CountArach]

In many ways the campaign in Massachusetts became a referendum not only on health care reform but also on the openness and integrity of our government process.

Except that Massachusetts already has Universal Healthcare and thus would not be impacted all too heavily by this.

I'm interested in what this will mean for the Senate tactics of the Dems. Hopefully less pandering to Liebermann because 60 is pretty much out of reach.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Except that Massachusetts already has Universal Healthcare and thus would not be impacted all too heavily by this.

I'm interested in what this will mean for the Senate tactics of the Dems. Hopefully less pandering to Liebermann because 60 is pretty much out of reach.

John Stewert said something about this last night, namely that the Republicans never had such as large majority when George W. Bush "did whatever the **** he wanted", and that you have to go back to the 1920's in order to find such a majority.

So, Democrats < Labour.

[Subotan]

Were I an American, I would be upset. Obama had a clear mandate to introduce Health Care reform, and it's not just that the Republicans (Since they turned out more than Dems or Inds) of Mass. (Which has healthcare) should be able to decide whether the rest of the America has affordable healthcare or not. Republican politicians, feel ashamed of yourselves.

[Centurion1]

are you kidding yourself........

have you ever been to massachusetts the democrats have a huge nummbers advantage oover republicans. plenty of democrats who voted for obama and ted kennedy went with brown instead.


shame on democrats for losing an election in a state that even Mcgovern could win in the 60's

[Crazed Rabbit]

Were I an American, I would be upset. Obama had a clear mandate to introduce Health Care reform, and it's not just that the Republicans (Since they turned out more than Dems or Inds) of Mass. (Which has healthcare) should be able to decide whether the rest of the America has affordable healthcare or not. Republican politicians, feel ashamed of yourselves.

Gee, considering the sinking opinion of their state healthcare in Massachusetts, maybe they didn't want it nationwide. And IIRC only a minority supports the healthcare bill now - so this result is a mandate of the nation on that issue.

I'm interested in what this will mean for the Senate tactics of the Dems. Hopefully less pandering to Liebermann because 60 is pretty much out of reach.

Does Lieberman really affect you? Anyway, I found an amusing post on dailykos, which suggested they would dump Lieberman at the earliest opportunity. And I thought wow, you just lost a seat in a state so blue their ketchup is purple, and your reaction is to start targeting other Democrats and those not ideologically pure enough?

CR

[Lemur]

And I thought wow, you just lost a seat in a state so blue their ketchup is purple, and your reaction is to start targeting other Democrats and those not ideologically pure enough?

Indeed, a destructive urge to purge seems to be infecting both sides of the aisle. I'd prefer not to see Dems engage in the left-wing equivalent of a RINO hunt. (I guess it would be a DINO hunt?)

[CountArach]

Does Lieberman really affect you? Anyway, I found an amusing post on dailykos, which suggested they would dump Lieberman at the earliest opportunity. And I thought wow, you just lost a seat in a state so blue their ketchup is purple, and your reaction is to start targeting other Democrats and those not ideologically pure enough?

CR

He doesn't affect me directly (well not on domestic issues at least), but in the interests of International solidarity, he does. He isn't a Democrat either, he ditched the party because he wasn't ideologically pure enough to win the primary.

[drone]

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/02/...ex.html?hpt=T1
Sen. Evan Bayh (D-Indiana) decides not to run for reelection, citing disgust with the Senate and Congress in general. Is he trying to get the stink off for a 2012 challenge to Obama? Now the Dems have to pay for another campaign to keep the seat.

[Lemur]

What's with everybody who's supposed to challenge Obama in 2012? Rush has been banging the drum that it's Hillary, now it's Bayh? As I've said before, I cannot think of an example of a sitting President being unseated in a primary. Why would savvy politicians stake their careers on such an unlikely outcome?

[drone]

Were I an American, I would be upset. Obama had a clear mandate to introduce Health Care reform, and it's not just that the Republicans (Since they turned out more than Dems or Inds) of Mass. (Which has healthcare) should be able to decide whether the rest of the America has affordable healthcare or not. Republican politicians, feel ashamed of yourselves.

No, Obama did not have a clear mandate to introduce health care. He had a clear mandate to not be George W. Bush.

[Subotan]

Then why did John McCain (Or Ron Paul hehe) not win?

[rvg]

Because Obama was able to successfully deliver the (untrue) message of McCain == Bush.

Sarah Palin didn't help either.

[Subotan]

So, regardless of what Obama's policies were, he would have got elected?