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    Obama to Seek New Assault Weapons Ban
    Previous Ban Expired in 2004 During the Bush Administration

    The Obama administration will seek to reinstate the assault weapons ban that expired in 2004 during the Bush administration, Attorney General Eric Holder said today.
    ABC News reports that the Obama administration is going to pursue the same legislation that
    1) Had no effect on crime
    2) Is seen as a step to greater gun control by gun control groups
    3) Took the rights of Americans for no gain
    4) Is unconstitutional
    5) Cost Clinton control of Congress in 1994

    So much for 'respecting the second amendment'. I guess you just can't fix stupid. This time, the reasoning isn't even that people are misusing them in our country, but in Mexico. We have to suffer because of foreign criminals. Who thinks the cartels couldn't get weapons easily from corrupt police and military?

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    Hopefully this passes. We need more and more government regulation; it's the quickest way to jade the populace and disenchant people of the virtue of government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander the Pretty Good View Post
    Hopefully this passes. We need more and more government regulation; it's the quickest way to jade the populace and disenchant people of the virtue of government.


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    "Some recent Mexican army and police confrontations with drug cartels have resembled small-unit combat, with cartels employing automatic weapons and grenades," the warning said. "Large firefights have taken place in many towns and cities across Mexico, but most recently in northern Mexico, including Tijuana, Chihuahua City and Ciudad Juarez."
    Let's see. Automatic weapons, illegal. Grenades, illegal. So this is basically another attempt to lose the Southern and Midwestern voters.

    I guess I'd better get a few spare mags for my pistol now, before the price shoots up to $150 again....
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    Let's see. Automatic weapons, illegal. Grenades, illegal. So this is basically another attempt to lose the Southern and Midwestern voters.

    I guess I'd better get a few spare mags for my pistol now, before the price shoots up to $150 again....
    Because OBVIOUSLY they're buying their guns in the US, right?

    And certainly banning them in the US will stop sale of said weapons in Mexico, right?

    I mean, a US company SURELY wouldn't buy assault weapons from, say, India, and ship them to Mexico, right? I mean, it's obvious that companies have our best interests in mind, right?

    ...Right?

    EDIT:
    On a side note, flamethrowers are legal. I heard it on the internet. :D

    Maybe I should get one of those.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheogorath View Post
    I mean, a US company SURELY wouldn't buy assault weapons from, say, India, and ship them to Mexico, right? I mean, it's obvious that companies have our best interests in mind, right?
    Do have any evidence of large scale arms dealing by US companies or are you simply making stuff up?

    Even if there were, this bill would do nothing - not a single thing - to hamper or stop the scenario you described.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheogorath View Post
    Because OBVIOUSLY they're buying their guns in the US, right?

    And certainly banning them in the US will stop sale of said weapons in Mexico, right?

    I mean, a US company SURELY wouldn't buy assault weapons from, say, India, and ship them to Mexico, right? I mean, it's obvious that companies have our best interests in mind, right?

    ...Right?

    EDIT:
    On a side note, flamethrowers are legal. I heard it on the internet. :D

    Maybe I should get one of those.
    I'm not sure if you are being sarcastic or not, so here goes again.

    Grenades and automatic weapons are ALREADY illegal for the most part. This reinstatement will not stop these weapons from reaching Mexican drug-runners. Proper enforcement of existing laws will. But it's always easier to pass a meaningless law than actually do something about the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drone View Post
    But it's always easier to pass a meaningless law than actually do something about the problem.
    We're in recession - this will save money!

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    Quote Originally Posted by drone View Post
    I guess I'd better get a few spare mags for my pistol now, before the price shoots up to $150 again....
    Maybe this should've been part of the stimulus package. If people think a new AWB is going to pass, gun sales will skyrocket.

    This reminds me of the Obama campaign ads that were running at least a couple times an hour around here. They trotted out some hunter who proclaimed that Obama supports the Second Amendment and personal ownership of guns and therefore, he supports Obama. What a load.
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    Knowing this won't pass I'm not going to feign outrage.

    However I will plug my Charity: SOS, Save Our Strike is a grass roots organization lobbying the Org government to provide longtime and most loved member SFTS a stimulus to help him buy various things, like guns and ostrich skin boots. As of right now all of his funds are being drained buy groceries gas and other purchases which he is forced to pay because his parents, after 18 years of love and care booted him 400 miles away. This is an undoubtedly because they don't care about poor people.

    His funds are only growing by 1.8% He is in a recession.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seireikhaan View Post
    Pretty much.

    This is a non issue for me. I doubt I'll ever feel the need to own one of these weapons.



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