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    His crime: possessing a gram of marijuana and calling someone an Englishman.
    Now I was all ready to condemn this shire reeve and his antics but this goes beyond the pale. Calling someone an Englishman! I'm sorry he got all he deserved.
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

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    He is currently under investigation by the FBI.

    He's a scumball; he uses deputies to harass, intimidate, and investigate anyone and everyone who criticizes him; judges, mayors, towns (numerous armed deputies raided one city hall after the Fire Chief complained of his racist 'crime sweeps), journalists, the Arizona Attorney General, the county manager, the county board of supervisors, lawyers, politicians, political opponents.

    He's arrested and then rearrested people, after the original bogus charges were dropped, because they said they would cut his budget. This tarnishes people's reputations, requires they pay thousands in legal bills, and worse. He's using the power of the state as a personal weapon of retaliation.

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    That sheriff is...well, going off the deep end:
    # Sheriff Joe Arpaio and Maricopa County Attorney Andrew Thomas filed a bizarre federal lawsuit alleging a wide-ranging conspiracy among the county’s judges and supervisors against Arpaio, Thomas, and Arpaio’s department.
    # Thomas indicted two Maricopa County supervisors on corruption charges.
    # Then it gets weird. Yesterday, Arpaio and Thomas criminally charged Judge Donahoe (the judge who held Arpaio’s document-swiping deputy in contempt) on bribery charges. Except there was apparently never any actual bribe. They didn’t like how Donahoe had ruled on some motions related to Arpaio’s investigation into the construction of a new tower for the county courthouse. Apparently, Donahoe’s “bribe” was merely his employment with the court system that benefits from the tower. Oh, and he’s also retiring soon.
    # Bonus: The indictment documents Thomas released to the press apparently “mistakenly” included Donahoe’s home address.
    And the 50 worst police brutality videos that surfaced in 2009. Some have been seen here, but most haven't.

    Either way, it's a lot of scum in one blog post:
    http://www.injusticeeverywhere.com/?p=1489

    Finally, a forum thread from a police officer forum, where cops discuss the benefits of beating the crap out of suspects they've caught.
    Ya know, I believe that things have changed for the better and I do understand that some of the things we did so many years ago would get you fired, sued, and probably put in jail for but damned, it did work pretty well most of the time. Whenever my platoon went on third shift housebreaking dropped to almost nothing. It was just a given that if we caught you in a building, and we usually did, you would get an *****-whipping. Nothing really bad and never break anything, but you didn't want to get caught again!
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    Professional SF author Peter Watts gets beaten, pepper-sprayed, charged with assault and dumped in a t-shirt (no coat) on the wrong end of a snowy bridge. All in a day's work for Homeland Security! Now, naturally, the Border Patrol is pursuing criminal charges against him. Given that they haven't charged him with Assault, I'm betting he never so much as touched them.

    And before you point it out, I'm fully aware that we haven't heard the officers' side of the story, and that will be important. Even better would be videotape. However, on the face of it, this looks like gross abuse.
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    This upsets me a little, not really abuse but how can anyone be so incredibly unfair, why destroy a person just because you can? Police can't be blamed here. I hope some people will one day feel a rope around their necks and I am more than willing to pull the handle.

    http://www.thisissurreytoday.co.uk/n...l/article.html

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    Complete and utter madness...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asai Nagamasa View Post
    Complete and utter madness...
    Yes, absolutely.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    This upsets me a little, not really abuse but how can anyone be so incredibly unfair, why destroy a person just because you can? Police can't be blamed here. I hope some people will one day feel a rope around their necks and I am more than willing to pull the handle.

    http://www.thisissurreytoday.co.uk/n...l/article.html
    Incidentally, this is the same man who allegedly attacked a DVLA inspector:
    Man accused of attacking DVLA inspector with broom walks free Monday, September 29, 2008, 17:27


    A man accused of beating a DVLA inspector with a broom handle as walked free from court after claiming his alleged victim had exaggarated the incident.
    Inspector Hayden Hart had claimed he was attakced my Paul Clarke, 26, as he patrolled Wood Street, Merstham, checking parked cars for out-of-date tax discs.


    The inspector said he was clubbed repeatedly by his attacker, who warned him: "If you come near my vehicle again, I'll break your f****** legs."
    But Mr Clarke, of Wood Street, Merstham, walked free from the Crown Court at Guildford after winning his appeal against conviction for assault by beating at Redhill Magistrates Court on March 12 this year.


    Mr Clarke, 26, of Nailsworth Crescent, Merstham, denied the offence, insisting he had never actually struck Mr Hart during the confrontation on June 12 last year (2007).


    http://www.thisissurreytoday.co.uk/g...l/article.html
    Maybe Mr Clarke got a narrow escape from this case, and decided to mend his ways? Like, handing in his gun? If this is what you do with a broom stick, what will you do next time you seek a fight and you are armed with an illegal firearm?


    If you are in the possesion of an illegal gun, do you hand it over stating that you bought it in a seedy bar, or do you say you 'found' it in a garbage can?

    This case may not be as clear-cut as Mr. Clarke's fine lawyer and the local newspaper make it out to be.
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    Why in the loving hell would you find a gun and take it to the police station instead of calling the cops to come get it?

    It doesn't matter if he was aare of the ordinance or not, it's just common sense. I think the man may be mildy retarded:

    He called the police, right? He set up an appointment, right? But he failed to mention why he was coming to the station....and walked into the police station with a freaking gun, then went into the guys office, took the gun out and laid it on a desk?????? Are you kidding me? He is lucky he didn't get shot. The mere fact that he chose to never mention the weapon prior to the meeting tells me something is amiss, either in his head or in his story.
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    The plot thickens!

    What a fascinating case. Deserving of its own thread. An excellent article here: http://jackofkent.blogspot.com/2009/...injustice.html


    Apparantly, Paul Clarke had been in possesion of the firearm for some days. (More?) His version of how he came in possesion of it seems not very credible.

    Paul Clarke was known to the police. From the 'broomstick' case and yet another case involving violence. He is not the upstanding citizen that newspaper article makes him out to be.

    The police station's Chief Superintendant Harper is currently suspended from duty.
    Two top cops have been suspended for alleged dishonest conduct regarding speeding penalties.
    Surrey Police chief superintendent Adrian Harper, the divisional commander for East Surrey division, was suspended, today, (Friday May 22), for alleged dishonest conduct regarding the avoidance of speeding penalties.
    West Surrey division's superintendent Johnny Johncox has also been suspended for the same reason.
    The suspensions are as a result of a review carried out by Surrey Police Professional Standards Department.
    The review looked into the granting of exemptions to police officers and staff for speeding and red traffic signal offences.
    This suspension is, quite apart from being relevant to this thread, important for establishing the culture and norms of this police station. These norms have an effect on this case, because the law and police guidelines leave a lot of (unintended) room for the individual officer in the decision to prosecute the handing over of firearms or not.

    Police in England and Wales have a guideline for persons handing in firearms. Which is to give preference to getting illegal firearms of the street. It is close to a 'don't ask, don't tell' policy:
    Anyone surrendering an illegally held firearm should be questioned discreetly with a view to establishing its history but, unless circumstances exist to give serious cause for concern as to its provenance (for example, if it appears to have been stolen), the person handing it in should not be pressed. The emphasis should be on creating an environment in which people hand in illegally held firearms.
    Surrey police didn't know, nor follow this guideline. I think the law and this guideline leaves too much room to individual police officers for abuse.
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    Philadelphia;
    A convicted drug dealer shows up at a mans house, and demand's to see a woman there. The man says no, the criminal punches the man. The man pulls a gun and the criminal flees. The man calls police.

    In the morning, the police arrive. They arrest the man who defended himself. The criminal is standing outside near the cops - because he's related to the cops.

    They take the man to the station and put him in a cell. They release him.

    But a week later, they come and arrest him - because they say it's a domestic dispute with a gun. He's charged with multiple crimes (felony aggravated assault, possession of an instrument of crime, terroristic threats, simple assault and recklessly endangering another person.)

    Then the criminal threatens to burn down the man's house. Then he makes good on his threat and someone lights a small fire outside one side of the house.

    Through all this, the convicted criminal who attacked a man in his home was never charged with anything.

    He wasn't even questioned about the fire until some reporters called and asked why not.
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    IT WAS just after midnight. Brian Westberry and a woman friend sat frozen in his bedroom, hoping the persistent pounding on the front door of his Northeast Philly home would stop. It didn't.

    Westberry, 24, slipped his licensed .38-caliber revolver into his pants pocket and crept downstairs to open the door.

    There stood Gregory Cujdik, 32, who demanded to see "Jen," his girlfriend. Westberry told him "Jen" didn't want to see him, and repeatedly ordered Cujdik to leave. When Cujdik refused, Westberry threatened to call police.

    " 'Do it. My family are cops,' " Cujdik said, according to Westberry.

    What Westberry didn't know at that early-morning hour of Palm Sunday, April 5, was that Cujdik's father, Louis, is a retired police veteran and that his two brothers, Jeffrey and Richard, are narcotics officers.

    Before Westberry could finish dialing 9-1-1 on his cell phone, Cujdik stepped through the doorway and punched him in the throat, Westberry said.

    That's when Westberry pulled out his gun and Cujdik fled, Westberry told the Daily News.

    Westberry never fired the gun. In fact, Westberry suffered the only injury when Cujdik staggered him with a punch. But rather than arrest Cujdik, a convicted drug dealer, authorities slapped Westberry with a slew of criminal charges, including felony aggravated assault, possession of an instrument of crime, terroristic threats, simple assault and recklessly endangering another person.

    From there, Westberry's life got worse. Westberry believes Cudjik is behind a Nov. 14 arson of his house. Detectives didn't question Cujdik until after a Daily News reporter asked a police captain about the case earlier this month.

    Cujdik did not return messages from the Daily News left on his cell phone.

    Westberry and his family allege that police considered Cujdik untouchable and gave him preferential treatment because of his family ties to law enforcement.

    "From the get-go, they chose to arrest me, not him, only because they knew his family," Westberry said. "I believe the justice system is fair - unless you know somebody."

    Seasoned legal experts who reviewed the case say that Westberry's arrest raises serious questions about the integrity of both the Police Department and the District Attorney's Office, which approved the criminal charges against Westberry.

    Six months after the incident, on Oct. 6, prosecutors withdrew the charges, but by then Westberry had spent thousands of dollars in legal fees. His record has yet to be expunged.

    The Westberry case comes at a time when some police officers are under fire for allegedly abusing their authority in personal matters. The case also seems to bolster recent criticism that the district attorney's charging unit merely "rubber stamps" criminal charges recommended by police.

    After Jack McMahon, a defense attorney and former prosecutor, read the police paperwork for Westberry's arrest, he said that the wrong person had been charged.

    "The defendant didn't break the law. The complainant did," said McMahon, who did not represent Westberry. "Legally, there's absolutely no basis for Cujdik not to be charged."

    Westberry was well within his legal right to use his gun to protect himself in his own home, McMahon said.

    "There's no evidence of aggravated assault even under the remotest of criminal theories," he said.

    The detective who arrested Westberry, Patricia Eberhart, has close ties to Cujdik's family. Her husband, Richard Eberhart, was Jeffrey Cujdik's partner in the Narcotics Field Unit before retiring in 2006. Together, Richard Eberhart and Jeffrey Cujdik own J&R Dunk Tank Rentals LLC, in Bensalem.

    In Patricia Eberhart's defense, Capt. Jack McGinnis, of Northeast Detectives, said that she didn't think Westberry should've been charged but that he disagreed. It was only then that Eberhart submitted a probable-cause affidavit for Westberry's arrest to the D.A.'s office for approval.

    McGinnis characterized Eberhart, who was promoted to detective in August 2008, as a "straight shooter" and a fair-minded detective.

    But Eberhart should have recused herself from the case, given her strong connection with the Cujdik family, said McGinnis.

    McGinnis said that he didn't know of the Cujdik family until after the Daily News launched its "Tainted Justice" series earlier this year. The series detailed allegations that Jeffrey and Richard Cujdik and other narcotics officers disabled surveillance cameras at corner grocery stores that sold little ziplock bags, which police consider drug paraphernalia.

    After the officers cut or yanked camera wires, thousands of dollars in cash and merchandise went missing, the merchants allege. The FBI is investigating the allegations.

    The problem with Eberhart's handling of Gregory Cujdik's complaint "is the appearance" of bias, even when none exists, McGinnis said.

    From now on, he said, Eberhart "is not allowed to be involved in any case involving the Cujdiks. We never allow our detectives to get involved in a case where it could be a conflict of interest.

    "It's not right for her to handle a case involving any member of the [Cujdik] family."

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    Popular local homeless man is murdered:
    http://www.newsok.com/article/341031...om_click=searc

    His homeless "buddy" finds body and leads police to it, then "confesses" after being detained and questioned for 9 hours. The confession is very detailed, but incidentally, never addresses a missing finger and the fact that the accused was in jail for public intox around the time of the murder. He is later charged. Locals suddenly feel terrible for not helping the two homeless men out more....
    http://www.newsok.com/article/341078...m_click=search

    Wierdo gives a married female he has a crush on a gift: a finger from a man he says he murdered. Her husband calls police:
    http://www.newsok.com/article/342616...m_click=search

    Cops stand by their case, saying it wasn't their fault the wrong guy confessed.
    Yeah.
    http://www.news9.com/Global/story.asp?S=11689601

    Now before people, like some in the last article say "kudos to the cops for continuing to investigate leads" I would respond:
    1)its their job
    2)it had not gone to trial
    3)they didnt talk of the missing finger too much, and someone suddenly says they have it, well, i guess they dont have a choice.

    So shame on them for bullying a dumb, alcoholic homeless guy into confessing to this murder, complete with grisly details and entailed human drama.


    Man in enid held 2.5 years finally gets acquitted because forensics evidence does not, and never has, link him to the crime and outright disproves Enid police testimony. THE PUBLIC DEFENDER GOT HIM OFF. IMAGINE IF HE HAD A PAID ATTORNEY. OSBI is now investigating and the officers are on leave:
    http://www.newsok.com/acquittal-brin...ad_story_title
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    Police officer stalks a stripper (actually, many from the same joint), stops her car one night after waiting outside for her to leave, then forces her to..."pleasure" him...and ejaculates on her.

    He gets off at a criminal trial after his attorney implied the woman was a whore and wanted it, even though he blatantly lied in the trial.

    No one disputes that an on-duty Irvine police officer got an erection and ejaculated on a motorist during an early-morning traffic stop in Laguna Beach. The female driver reported it, DNA testing confirmed it and officer David Alex Park finally admitted it.

    When the case went to trial, however, defense attorney Al Stokke argued that Park wasn't responsible for making sticky all over the woman's sweater. He insisted that she made the married patrolman make the mess—after all, she was on her way home from work as a dancer at Captain Cream Cabaret.

    "She got what she wanted," said Stokke. "She's an overtly sexual person.
    ...
    It wasn't a surprise that Stokke put the woman and her part-time occupation on trial. In his opening argument, he made it The Good Cop versus The Slutty Stripper. He pointed out that she'd once had a violent fight with a boyfriend in San Diego. He mocked her inability to keep a driver's license. He accused her of purposefully "weakening" Park so that he became "a man," not a cop during the traffic stop. He called her a liar angling for easy lawsuit cash. He called her a whore without saying the word.

    "You dance around a pole, don't you?" Stokke asked.

    Superior Court Judge William Evans ruled the question irrelevant.

    Stokke saw he was scoring points with the jury.

    "Do you place a pole between your legs and go up and down?" he asked.

    "No," said Lucy before the judge interrupted.

    "You do the dancing to get men to do what you what them to do," said Stokke. "And the same thing happened out there on that highway [in Laguna Beach]. You wanted [Park] to take some sex!"
    At least the city gave her $400k to settle a lawsuit.

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    Double post. Curse you, forum database errors!
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    I can't believe the article said "he made sticky"

    I can, however, believe an Irving cop did that, considering what I have had to deal with when dealing with them as a PI. That whole force, and city government for that matter, needs to be purged. They are full of fraudsters, the lot of them.
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    Don't throw snowballs at plainclothes detectives in a personal vehicle or you may get a gun pulled on you:
    http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/b...ht-14th-and-u/

    What's even more funny is local police fanbooys tried to say it was a hostile protest of a bunch of left wingers, when really it was just a large organized snow ball war
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    Gah, MRD beat me to it.

    Here's another source, complete with wide angle shots of the snow ball fight (showing no political signs), and a commenter insisting the people were anarchist types:
    What this article fails to mention is that there were several left wing/anarchist types at this snowball fight and that it was meant to be a political protest as much as a snowball fight. People with masks and bandanas around their face (and various anti-war/anti-capitalism signs) were pelting cars as they passed. One happened t be a plain-closed detective. He got out with a walkie talky (HE WAS NOT THE ONE WITH A GUN) and called for patrolmen to respond. After being called every imaginable obscenity and getting hit with many snowballs, one to the face, other officers arrived, one of these patrol had his gun withdrawn (not pointed at anyone) and told the group to break up. As soon as he saw there was no immediate threat the officer holstered his gun, even as he was hit with snowballs himself

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    OMG they wore Bandannas and masks? It's not like it was a snowstorm or anything! I think they should be charged with TERRORISM
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    Two years ago, a SWAT team in Toledo Ohio burst into a house on a drug raid. They found some dogs in the house, and naturally shot them to death. Then officer Joseph Chavalia heard those gun shots and so shot at one of the people in the house; the 26 year old mother holding her one year old son.

    He killed her and wounded her son and was charged with a misdemeanor crimes and found innocent.

    He said he saw a shadowy figure ducking in and out of a doorway and fired his fully automatic rifle when he heard gunfire that coincided with the person's movements.
    So seeing a person you can't identify in a house you know is full of children, after you detonated a grenade outside to scare them and are shooting their dogs inside, and then shooting to kill them, is good enough reason for the sheriff's review.

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    Moonyash pigs.

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    State Troopers arrest and rough up a former Marine for daring to question an off duty officer who was illegally parked in a fire lane outside a grocery store.

    When a Chambersburg man left the grocery store Sunday afternoon, he thought it was nervy that someone parked a pickup truck in the fire lane beside the entrance, so he asked the driver what gave him the privilege. The driver was an off-duty state police trooper, and by the end of the night the man with the question was in jail with facial injuries and charges pending against him.

    Ron Doyle acknowledges that he speaks his mind, and wasn't too shy about asking the driver of the pickup parked in the "Fire Lane -- No Parking" area in front of the Norland Avenue Giant Sunday afternoon why he was there.

    Doyle said he went to the store after watching one of the NFL playoff games and he walked to get there. He was there earlier in the day and his car wouldn't start for the trip home, so Doyle walked home to Scotland Avenue and walked back later to get some things at Staples and Giant, and bring home his car.

    The man in the pickup truck flashed a badge from his wallet, saying that badge entitled him to park there.

    Doyle replied that the man was "special" since he was not in a patrol car, or in uniform, and had a child with him.

    Doyle said he walked away, and the off-duty officer, Trooper Craig Finkle, called him back. Doyle said he walked part way back to Finkle and heard the off-duty officer ask on his cell phone for "units that can roll now."

    Doyle went to his car, it started, and he went home.

    Finkle followed, he said, but when Doyle turned into the
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    alley by Norland Pub that gives him access to his driveway, Finkle continued along Norland Avenue.

    At home where he lives alone with two bulldogs, Doyle said he put away his groceries, let his dogs out of the kitchen area, and had a martini he'd prepared earlier and left on the counter. He said he'd had the same kind of drink earlier in the day.

    When Doyle saw three state police cars pull in behind his duplex, he gathered up his dogs and got them upstairs so he could confine them to a front bedroom. When the troopers began knocking on the window of his newly installed back door, the female dog gave Doyle a bit of a hard time about moving away from the knocking instead of toward it, but when he commanded her and the male to go up to the bedroom, they went.

    As Doyle came down the stairs, he called 911 and asked for borough police assistance.

    "I told them I needed borough cops at my place, that state police were yelling I was under arrest and I didn't even do anything," Doyle told Public Opinion.

    By the time Doyle got back to his kitchen door, he said the officers were pounding on the door and yelling at him that he was under arrest for disorderly conduct.

    "I kept the phone open with the (911) operator on the line and told these guys that I was going to open the door, to please don't break the glass in my new door," Doyle said.

    As Doyle begin turning the lock on the door to open it, in the affidavit of probable cause filed in the case, the officers said Doyle had "an aggressive stance" when he opened the door, which swings into the kitchen.

    Doyle said one of the troopers kicked it in, denting the new metal door, and the two troopers dragged him to the ground.

    When his face bounced off the floor, the nose piece on his eyeglasses cut across the bridge of his nose, and he also suffered an open abrasion above his forehead.

    When Doyle was taken outside and spread over the hood of a patrol car and handcuffed, the retired Marine who'd worked as a civilian policeman on military bases after his service said he told state police troopers he wanted an attorney. He also asked them if someone could let his dogs out of the bedroom so they'd have access to water while he was gone.

    Doyle was taken to Chambersburg Hospital for a blood-alcohol test and then booked into Franklin County Jail on two charges of driving under the influence and one charge of disorderly conduct. He was released on personal recognizance Monday after a teleconference with a judge.

    The charging officers never saw Doyle drive, he said, and while he drank after he got home, he didn't drive to Giant that afternoon -- he walked. The charging officers also did not witness his discussion with Finkle, who called for troopers to "roll out" on Doyle after his question about parking in a fire lane, he said.

    According to the officers who filed the charges, Troopers Gross and Remington, Finkle told them that Doyle yelled obscenities across the lot of Giant at Finkle and was publicly drunk.

    The affidavit of probable cause also states that Doyle yelled obscenities at the officers who came to his house. Doyle said most of his conversation should be on the 911 recording because he left the line open when the troopers were there and Doyle wanted borough assistance.

    Public Opinion filed a Freedom of Information request on Tuesday for that tape, and was notified on Wednesday by County Clerk Jean Byers, who is the county's appointed open records officer, that "the public interest in disclosure does not outweigh the interest in nondisclosure."

    Public Opinion filed an appeal with the Pennsylvania Open Records office the same day its request was denied.

    Doyle has been active with the local Marine Corps League and was the commander when he instituted the national Toys for Tots program locally, which that branch of the league had not been doing at the time. He moved here to work at Letterkenny, and is retired from there.

    In the late 1990s Doyle and a woman he was living with separated and she filed a Protection from Abuse order against him through the local courts. He was in court after returning to the property to give the woman back money he had borrowed to get his car fixed -- she had a camera ready when he came on the property with the money and that proof put him before a judge.

    Public Opinion talked to a few people affiliated with the Marine Corps League, who said they don't know Doyle to be someone who would provoke a take-down by state police, especially having been a Marine and policeman himself.

    Doyle's preliminary hearing is set for Tuesday before Magisterial District Judge Gary L. Carter. Doyle is represented by Hagerstown, Md., area attorney James Reed.
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    In Eugene Oregon cops arrest a man for putting quarters in expired parking meters of strangers:
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    I've heard of that before. Last time it was an old lady.

    It's similar to another story about a toll booth. A guy is short on change, opens up his door, finds a coin, throws it in the bin and subsequently receives a ticket. The reason given was something along the lines of "It wasn't your money" or something.

    This more accurately falls under the category of Bored Cop Syndrome, stupid human tricks, or Rudy Giuliani.


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    In Eugene Oregon cops arrest a man for putting quarters in expired parking meters of strangers:
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    Plainclothes Police beat the crap out of honor student violinist because he has a gun, and by gun I mean bottle of soda.

    http://www.wpxi.com/news/22311848/detail.html

    How can you resist arrest if the arrest is illegal to begin with?

    And I'm sorry, but a plainclothes cop identifying himself as police means nothing to me until i see a badge. In emergency situations I could see where there is no time for that, but 3 cops standing 4 feet from the kid had every chance to keep this from escalating
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    Finally, something not too many hours from where I live.

    Told to stop and the parking attendant walked on? Then he continues? And later possible gets arrested? (the video ends a bit early). I can't say i feel too bad.

    Parking cops have a thing about being ignored, even more than regular cops. I'm not surprised something happened when he continued after disobeying a lawful order (an arrestable offense by itself).

    A lame news story? Yes? A police abuse? At best a pretty weak one.

    Sometimes pretty lame things are illegal. Sometimes you should write your congressman rather than disobey police on the scene. Heck, even hide out an hour and then put quarters in people's meters.

    I don't know. My agency is so underfunded we can't afford to bother with stuff like this. Maybe I'm biased.

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    Parking cops are gods among men, or that's what parking cops think...
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    Parking cops are thought quite poorly of y other cops, and may develop a Napoleon complex due to such poor treatment.

    I couldn't believe that in the local police department they make the CSOs (parking cops, among other minor jobs) clean the backs of police cars (of puke, excrement, and other things suspects leave behind). No wonder they overreach. They feel they wear the same uniforms and take the same risks, only to be mocked.
    At any rate, disobeying a lawful order is disobeying a lawful order. I'd wait, then drop some more quarters. Heck, my area's CSOs can only afford to check twice a day (once to see which cars are parkedd where, once to check if they are still there) I would like to see more video, though, it seemed that site was cut short. In the academy we had a video of a Boston traffic cop as an example of what not to do.

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