The Settlement [Concluded]

**Yoyoma1910** · 04-06-2009, 14:26

Originally Posted by TinCow

The way I read Reenk's responses, the surviving scum hasn't killed because he/she cannot kill. I suspect it is a mafia investigator or perhaps an independent townie that still has an unfulfilled side-quest, like eliminating the Brewer.

Or, it's someone who was converted by the demon on the one night he existed but didn't do anything obvious to us. This then likely would have changed the person's victory conditions, without necessarily giving them additional abilities.

**TinCow** · 04-06-2009, 14:49

Originally Posted by Yoyoma1910

Or, it's someone who was converted by the demon on the one night he existed but didn't do anything obvious to us. This then likely would have changed the person's victory conditions, without necessarily giving them additional abilities.

Yes, that is a likely scenario as well, probably more-so since you've been proven innocent. Hence my initial focus on boudica, simply because you did not get a result on her. For what its worth, when considering who would have been recruited, I think Ichigo is at the bottom of the list. His total inactivity at that point (somewhere around 3 posts) would have made him completely unattractive to someone who was trying to get a useful ally.

**Askthepizzaguy** · 04-06-2009, 17:41

Originally Posted by Andres

Yes, but I am scum using reverse psychology here. Go ahead, convince the townies to lynch Ichigo. I promise you won't regret it. Alternatively, you could also just end the game by lynching Psychonaut and boudica in the next two rounds. Yes, you are facing 2 bad guys and you have to lynch at least one this round to end this game. But don't listen to me, you probably already know that my true partner in crime is Lord Winter.

So, what we do is either not read it, or we read it but don't let it affect our decisions in the slightest. Not for or against anyone. If Andres is a scum, perhaps we shouldn't let him influence us. Though you probably already know this, I just wanted to do a little reminder in case some of the townies forgot... due to this game being so long it warrants its own trilogy. I notice TinCow is interacting with Andres almost as if he's considering Andres' words. Am I wrong?

Bah, don't listen to me I'm dead and by now, I've rotted to basically a skeleton. On the plus side, I've lost a lot of excess weight now I'm all skin and bones.

**Jolt** · 04-06-2009, 17:57

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

So, what we do is either not read it, or we read it but don't let it affect our decisions in the slightest. Not for or against anyone. If Andres is a scum, perhaps we shouldn't let him influence us. Though you probably already know this, I just wanted to do a little reminder in case some of the townies forgot... due to this game being so long it warrants its own trilogy. I notice TinCow is interacting with Andres almost as if he's considering Andres' words. Am I wrong?

Bah, don't listen to me I'm dead and by now, I've rotted to basically a skeleton. On the plus side, I've lost a lot of excess weight now I'm all skin and bones.

Well, he is a townie who jsut so happened to murder Good Men. Since all Good Men are dead, if Town wins, he wins as well.

**Askthepizzaguy** · 04-06-2009, 18:02

I have a vague recollection that you are also an untrustworthy party. And he's not acting like a townie to me/ but what do I know? My brain has been eaten by worms.

**Sasaki Kojiro** · 04-06-2009, 18:04

I suggest we do whatever Andres says.

**Askthepizzaguy** · 04-06-2009, 18:08

Well, since the dead baddies are talking more than the living townies, I suggest we let them win. They seem to want it more than the indecisive townies.

edit:
To be useful, here is a tally. I double checked it; it sadly appears to be correct.

Ichigo: 1 (Lord Winter
boudica: 1 (Ichigo)
Lord Winter: 1 (boudica)
Abstain: Psychonaut

Seamus appears to be the deciding factor.

**TinCow** · 04-06-2009, 18:12

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

I notice TinCow is interacting with Andres almost as if he's considering Andres' words. Am I wrong?

Just because someone is confirmed scum doesn't mean everything they say is wrong. If scum only spouted things that were blatantly false all the time, they would be easy to ignore. That's why a good mafioso says plenty of things that are perfectly sensible on a regular basis. There's no reason to ignore these statements just because they come from a mafioso. It's a relatively simple process to put a mental stamp of "Questionable Motive" on their statements, to give them their proper evidentiary weight.

In any case, I don't think that either Andres or Jolt know the identity of the our surviving scumbag. They're definitely trying to cause confusion, but I suspect they're incapable of totally misleading us simply because they don't know who to lead us away from. Hence their scatter-shot of accusations at pretty much everyone alive.

**Askthepizzaguy** · 04-06-2009, 18:15

Okay just checking. I figured you knew what you were doing, but I just had to make sure. Vigilant townie and such, even in death.

I'm going to prod Seamus to see if I can get him to decide this matter.

**FactionHeir** · 04-06-2009, 18:20

We know Seamus is innocent so why not just let him abstain and Reenk kills all of the above?

**Askthepizzaguy** · 04-06-2009, 18:24

That's fine by me. But are we sure it would end in a triple lynch? Besides, we risk allowing the remaining evildoer to change his vote at the last minute and lynch someone good.