The fight for Inishmore [Concluded]

[Askthepizzaguy]

Askthepizzaguy:

Diana and I have 2 votes. We will be on right before the deadline to double lynch Sasaki and boudica. You know Sasaki is Oswald. We are letting you know of this plan, because we believe you are innocent.

Get votes on Sasaki and boudica, and we will make sure, right before the deadline, they both die. If this is what you want. Otherwise we will not follow through with the plan, and actually have a restful evening for once. Your choice.

You can make this public, but it will tip them off that they have to be awake to save themselves in about 9 hours. Tell your townie friends... spread the word.

Askthepizzaguy:

Diana and I have 2 votes. We will be on right before the deadline to double lynch Sasaki and boudica. You know Sasaki is Oswald. We are letting you know of this plan, because we believe you are innocent.

Get votes on Sasaki and boudica, and we will make sure, right before the deadline, they both die. If this is what you want. Otherwise we will not follow through with the plan, and actually have a restful evening for once. Your choice.

You can make this public, but it will tip them off that they have to be awake to save themselves in about 9 hours. Tell your townie friends... spread the word.

I guess im willing for this... it will look strange if i move my vote from sasaki... especially after the post i just made...

So from my end is a good plan... aslong as i can keep my vote on sasaki

Do it. And let the English see you do it.

-Braveheart.

Askthepizzaguy

To be honest ATPG I have NO townie friends.
I am a townie but have no clue as to who else is one.

I would appriciate the double lynch on them for the simple fact that if Boudica AND Sakasi are scum but not the GF we may waste another round hunting.

Diana and I have 2 votes. We will be on right before the deadline to double lynch Sasaki and boudica. You know Sasaki is Oswald. We are letting you know of this plan, because we believe you are innocent.

Get votes on Sasaki and boudica, and we will make sure, right before the deadline, they both die. If this is what you want. Otherwise we will not follow through with the plan, and actually have a restful evening for once. Your choice.

You can make this public, but it will tip them off that they have to be awake to save themselves in about 9 hours. Tell your townie friends... spread the word.

Absolutely. That is what our plan is. we thank you for your support. It IS your butts we are saving, since you won't save Diana's....

but we forgive you. You're actually FIGHTING for Ireland. That's all we wanted.

Askthepizzaguy:

I am not moving my vote from Boudica.
I hope that our host will allow the double lynch though (he didn't in round one).

Diana and I have 2 votes. We will be on right before the deadline to double lynch Sasaki and boudica. You know Sasaki is Oswald. We are letting you know of this plan, because we believe you are innocent.

Get votes on Sasaki and boudica, and we will make sure, right before the deadline, they both die. If this is what you want. Otherwise we will not follow through with the plan, and actually have a restful evening for once. Your choice.

You can make this public, but it will tip them off that they have to be awake to save themselves in about 9 hours. Tell your townie friends... spread the word.

I guess im willing for this... it will look strange if i move my vote from sasaki... especially after the post i just made...

So from my end is a good plan... aslong as i can keep my vote on sasaki

El Diablo has a point... is it worth the risk to try and lynch two people and risk not lynching anyone at all ?

Then get Sasaki.

El Diablo didn't want to vote for Sasaki.

Sasaki is Oswald. El Diablo is the English Godfather.

Some rules and so forth:
No revealing in private. No screenshots.
Every person with a role has a name. In any kill writeups or lynches, if a player with a name features in them, their in game name will be used. (eg, If my name is Bob and I kill Beefy, the write up would say that Bob stalked beefy and killed him.)

The town must remove all threats to it to become victorious.

If you have questions, feel free to ask.

Quoting PMs is allowed, even by the dead, unless otherwise stated.





My question: Did LittleGrizzly or Shinseikhaan actually tell anyone?

[Askthepizzaguy]

One last thing....


FREEDOM!!!!

[ULC]

*sighs*

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Godfathers come up as innocent, IIRC, thus, GH innocent result begs the question, does it not?

Also, the two theories kind of merged when I explained how I would play comparitively. I am not saying GH is Oswald, I am saying GH could be the Godfather, since as mafia, best to kill the confirmed innocents. It all depends on who dies tonight really - If GH, then it's ED, if ED, then it's pretty much GH.

We have to lynch Sasaki though

No we don't. We can lynch either GH or El Diablo and end the game with honor.


1. LittleGrizzly has been Sasaki's target all game, if he is the GF, that deserves the nod. Well done, played with honor.

2. GeneralHankerchief played VERY risky by betraying White_eyes. Not Godfather material. He also came up as innocent, but so did El Diablo and LittleGrizzly. If GH is the Godfather, toss him a bone.

3. Lord Winter tried to suicide privately, and the HOST said no.

4. Shinseikhaan will not survive the night; and he didn't read my message until it was too late to save Sasaki, I think.

5. Sasaki Kojiro is Oswald.

6. El Diablo is the only remaining suspect for English Godfather, in my opinion.

1. Agreed
2. Sorry, I put nothing past GH. We infact lost all our protown roles that round, so in effect, he had no more use for the network.
3. The host said no...why?
4. I am not sure - a deal can be offered, since Khaan doesn't need the town to win, he can win right along with the mafia, and the mafia does not need to kill him. Plus, leaving him alive means a possible increase in voting power for them, and reduced votiung power for us.
5. Agreed, for the most part - I keep getting this nagging feeling of an ED-LW evil alliance of doom...
6. Besides GH? Agreed.

I think we should state our case. Would you copy this message in it's entirety, spoiler it, and make it public.

After all, it is YOUR town you're trying to save. You s killed my Glorious Leader. Why should I care anymore?

I am a sentimental guy... and I hate the English more than you do.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Where exactly did Lord Winter try to suicide in the thread, and where did pever give his reply?

Also, I'm not too sure about El Diablo being Godfather just because he wouldn't take his vote off boudica. Remember, Godfathers know if somebody's guilty or innocent and can thus plan accordingly to make them look better. Townies on the other hand aren't as sure.

[ULC]

Where exactly did Lord Winter try to suicide in the thread, and where did pever give his reply?

Also, I'm not too sure about El Diablo being Godfather just because he wouldn't take his vote off boudica. Remember, Godfathers know if somebody's guilty or innocent and can thus plan accordingly to make them look better. Townies on the other hand aren't as sure.

I actually said that earlier to ATPG - as a Godfather, I would have switched my vote to Sasaki, because not doing so draws attention. Sacrifice the grunt to win the game.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Where exactly did Lord Winter try to suicide in the thread, and where did pever give his reply?

Also, I'm not too sure about El Diablo being Godfather just because he wouldn't take his vote off boudica. Remember, Godfathers know if somebody's guilty or innocent and can thus plan accordingly to make them look better. Townies on the other hand aren't as sure.

Not in a 2 mafia game. GF's know only the guilt of their crew -- not the other team.



If factionheir was Davey, then some of my concerns with 'khaan were clearly baseless. Too much catch up reading I guess. Skimmed too quick.


One Good Guy dies tonight (we are now down to regular mafia) leaving 2 townies, 1 neutral, and two badguys. On strict math, that makes it 50/50.


GH: Found "innocent" so he's either clean or THE baddie. Has aroused little suspicion aside from his feud with White_Eyes.

LG: Sasaki's target for half of the game or more. Also found "innocent" by me so he's either clean or THE baddie.

SK: I Died while investigating this one, so I don't have an "I" or "G" to provide you. Pizza is clearly fingering him as one of the English mafiosi.

LW: A bit under the radar here. I had not gotten to investigating him. He spend most of the first few days lurking (vote-wise) casting one vote for a now-known-to-be-townie Boudica when she came under pressure earlier.

El D: Found "innocent" and has played very low key all game, almost a lurker despite fairly regular voting.

'k: Named character with at least one resistance to night-death. Claims to be a "must survive" only character who lacks any other objective. Since we are assuming he's a "neutral" role, it makes sense to not vote for him.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Not in a 2 mafia game. GF's know only the guilt of their crew -- not the other team.

Agreed, but boudica was never suspected of being Irish mafia - only English. As is El Diablo currently.

[Askthepizzaguy]

The hilarious part is that you're the next highest suspect on mine and YLC's list, yet you're arguing that El Diablo may not be the English Godfather.

We consider, (in our thoroughly silly opinion) only you and El Diablo to be suspects now.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I just want to keep all of our options open, that's all. glyphz came out of nowhere to win Ephesus. I don't want to make that mistake twice.

[ULC]

The hilarious part is that you're the next highest suspect on mine and YLC's list, yet you're arguing that El Diablo may not be the English Godfather.

We consider, (in our thoroughly silly opinion) only you and El Diablo to be suspects now.

If we keep picking the same suspetcs and agreeing with each other, they might suspect we are the same person!

Quick, I'll pick GH and you can have ED! They will never know!

[Askthepizzaguy]

Indeed. I admit, we know basically nothing... assumptions are made all the time. If I can rehash and make my opinion a little clearer, and then bow out so as not to destroy your game or your chances of winning:


1. Lord Winter or Sasaki must be Oswald. I can find the post for you where pevergreen said no to Lord Winter over the suicide, publicly, when I don't think he asked publicly. We can check all Lord Winter's posts to be sure.

2. Sasaki showed up at precisely 3:00 AM my time to save himself, which is (perhaps) townie behavior, but judgment call says mafia.

3. He may have been tipped off by one of the 3 people I mentioned.

4. Sasaki (if Oswald) has been accusing LittleGrizzly all game. If LittleGrizzly is the Godfather, I think that deserves a round of applause and the win, but that's my opinion. I like to reward bold play and punish the more predictable play, like lurking and so on.

5. Shinseikhaan survived a hit, and no one claims to be a defender or blocker, and pev confirmed that the English have the same abilities we did. Nothing but murder.

6. General, you've played a bold, bold game by accusing White_eyes. A very risky thing for a Godfather to do when you knew he was innocent by investigation. You may have played the odds too and thought... if I am the Godfather, what are the odds White_eyes is a Godfather? Pretty bad.

You took a huge gamble and lost. And you also exposed yourself to the mafioso as being part of a pro-town network, therefore making you a murder target.

7. El Diablo's contributions don't fly with me. He probably tipped off Sasaki. He cannot be Oswald, and I don't sense townie-ness from him. I've been pretty good at picking roles this game, and I smell a role here. I also smell an english rat...

8. He refused to vote for Sasaki.






I rest my case, feel free to pick it apart, General. Well played game, by all. Masterful performance by Sasaki, and brilliant moves by town with the investigations, which will indeed solve this case, I predict. And I had tons of fun.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I have the posts that are relevant, in fact I think I have all of Lord Winter's in-game posts here.

Spoiler-ed to keep the thread looking neat, and the interesting parts are highlighted red.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Vote: Askthepizza guy.

and the Lord said let the wall of text come forth...

Risky behavior, as anyone who votes for me immediately becomes scummy to me, and risks being scrutinized by me all game, and usually faces an accusation later on.

Not to mention that it stifles any discussion we will get this round, and that also goes at this bandwagon that has sprung up against your perfectly in character yet still poor townie move.

Unvote: Pizza
Vote: A very super market

Unhelpful bandwagoning.

Nervous? Maybe.

I voted pizza before the bandwagon started as a random start vote. Once the bandwagon got going it was serving a useless function. I was just trying to generate more discussion.

I think it makes sense, but could be townie behavior or mafia nervousness and explanations.

Sorry everyone, I fell behind in my mafia reading.

Anyway, I don't see any point in lynching AtPG again. He's done nothing out of character and deserves to live through the first half of a game for once.

I agree with Saski, Boucida is truely acting out of character. I can't remember her doing the lynch me if you want thing before.

Vote: Boucida

Not sure if there's anything here to comment on. Makes sense, to me.

Vote: YLC

Your last posts come off as too agressive.


@AtPG/Reenk

The only part that links the kill to Reenk is the clear Weenx imitation. That is all it is though an imitatioin. Look at the finer points it is missing the characteristic Wanax commentary that would Reenk put in on the Wenex kills. I'm not buying the match.

Voted for someone who got murdered by English mafia.

Sorry didn't look at the status list.

Unvote: YLC

The truth, or a ploy? I don't know... a ploy from the Godfather... still very risky.

I know, I got behind in my reading here and I'm trying to catch up. To be honest I don't have a complete idea of what's going on.

Lurking, claiming not to know what is going on? Later he asks to suicide.

Vote: Abstain

I don't have the understanding of the game to even hope to start drawing meaningful conclusions. I will try to catch up tommarow and get try to establish some context.

This does seem odd to me. It's obvious lurking/avoiding behavior, which is a tactic that gets riskier every game as people start having more and more backlashes at lurkers.

As a note, I am very very reluctant to suicide anyone, especially at this point of the game. I knew pyschonaut stopped paying attention (he never did in the first place) but LW and boudica, I won't suicide you.

This is where pevergreen tells Lord Winter that he cannot suicide. He never asked in-thread.

I'll try to set aside some time to get caught up.

Lord Winter's reply.

Why should've the host given you the name of your killer, wouldn't that seriously unbalance the game?

No comment. Makes sense.

I have diffuclties lynching on a two sentences infalliable PM.

Again, makes sense. I can't glean mafia or town from this.

AtPG is more then capable of throwing his team under the bus. He admitted to doing it in Prometheus. I don't have any reason to doubt it, and killing Diana will not hurt us with the separate vote. If we assume that Pizza is telling the truth then we can narrow down the suspects to Sasski on the grunt side (assuming I'm innocent). However, since we have limited lynches let we shouldn't act on this. However, if we assume Sasski is guilty then we can also realize that LG is also innocent. I've read over Boucida's post and the cases against her, but I don't think she's guilty, I would call her an innocent townie. Now, I have reached logic's limit for the time I have now. If the game continues, I'll do a through reread keeping all this in mind. However, I don't have that time this round, I've already spent an hour and a half catching up. So for now we leave the path of logic and start with instinct. GH does not seem guilty so far, actually to be fair I don't have enough information to make that call but once again I'm going to ignore him as a suspect. I believe 'khans reveal, also a instinct call. My vote is going to have to go with El Diablo this round. He seems to have laid low and like someone mentioned (forgot who), he seems to have been distancing himself from Sasski. Also he's an older player, who would know Saski's skills, while not knowing much about many others.

Vote: El Diablo
Kill: Diana

Votes for El Diablo... how lovely.

This is another reason I like him for a townie this game. He actually points out a very good suspect, whereas mafia don't want to kill the big suspects. Bold move.

This is why I think he's townie, not Godfather nor Oswald. But I have been wrong before; make your own call.

[El Diablo]

ATPG is there noone you have not called the godfather yet? I have images of you scanning your posts at the end to say..

"See in post 567 & 678 I thought it was GH" - not to mention the others you fingered but got wrong.

Here is my thought processes for that last round of voting.

1. You had stated that Diana was Godfather/mother and that all off the IRA would die with her. I did not believe that you were telling the whole truth. I was worried that Diana was the henchwoman and you were the GF thus surving one more round and one more kill in the night round.

2. That meant two kills in the night phase and a severe disdvantage for town. I am pretty sure that Sasaki is a grunt but taking him out would not have wiped out the english mafia. Thus still two kills for the night phase. You obviously don't know who the English mafia is so you may have killed a townie and causing a town loss?

3. I went for the win with my vote last night. Boudica could have been the gf and town could have won there and then. As it is we were lucky that you were telling the truth and have now gone. Do you honestly think I should trust you and put my vote where you wanted? I find that as the percentage numbers of mafia in a game get higher you need to trust yourself as mafia are generally more persistant and can sway votes.

I made a judgement call and it was wrong. My bad, but there have been plenty of others in this game too.

The only good thing is now you have made me a target I actually expect to survive the night round.

[Askthepizzaguy]

ATPG is there noone you have not called the godfather yet? I have images of you scanning your posts at the end to say. "See in post 567 & 678 I thought it was GH" - not to mention the others you fingered but got wrong.

Irrelevant to the game itself. I have nothing to do with the fact of your guilt or innocence. Not a rational argument of defense; a red herring.

Here is my thought processes for that last round of voting.

1. You had stated that Diana was Godfather/mother and that all off the IRA would die with her. I did not believe that you were telling the whole truth. I was worried that Diana was the henchwoman and you were the GF thus surving one more round and one more kill in the night round.

Okay.

2. That meant two kills in the night phase and a severe disdvantage for town. I am pretty sure that Sasaki is a grunt but taking him out would not have wiped out the english mafia. Thus still two kills for the night phase. You obviously don't know who the English mafia is so you may have killed a townie and causing a town loss?

You wouldn't take out a grunt, then get his Godfather? In my opinion, that's a confession.

3. I went for the win with my vote last night. Boudica could have been the gf and town could have won there and then. As it is we were lucky that you were telling the truth and have now gone. Do you honestly think I should trust you and put my vote where you wanted? I find that as the percentage numbers of mafia in a game get higher you need to trust yourself as mafia are generally more persistant and can sway votes.

I am not the issue here, you are. Hehehehe..... you're trying to frame your defense around me and my arguments, which is nothing more than a distraction tactic.

I made a judgement call and it was wrong. My bad, but there have been plenty of others in this game too.

You're bad? Okay, we should lynch you then.

The only good thing is now you have made me a target I actually expect to survive the night round.

That was a foregone conclusion anyway.





Not much of a defense. I don't believe you. Thankfully for you, town decided to eliminate the IRA last round, and if they had not, Sasaki would be dead. If I was quicker on the trigger finger, he would have been anyway. I was ready to alter my vote too. Sasaki is guilty, and you refused to kill him.

Now we must destroy you, so sayeth the dead guy. Now try to convince the living, because you have not convinced me. I tried to listen to you objectively. State a case why someone besides you is guilty. Convince them.

[El Diablo]

You wouldn't take out a grunt, then get his Godfather? In my opinion, that's a confession.

As I said I was after the godfather. You question my process "grunt then godfather" - correct?

If was going to use your process I would have voted you. You may have been the gf and survived the lynch when Diana was killed.
Leaving you alive (an ADMITTED mafia) is worse than leaving sasaki an ALLEGED mafia.
Oh I forgot - you told me you would die when Diana was killed - and you have not told a lie all game as mafia?

You POSSIBLY left alive when combined with the fact we are unanimous that Sasaki is probably only a grunt at best (leaving a gf out there) would have left two kills in the night phase.

Thus I hoped to kill the English gf and then deal with you the next round if you had not been killed.

As it is the grunt and the GF still survive but with only one kill between them. We still have another shot at the gf, they still only get one kill. You assume the GF to be me by my actions when infact by killing Sasaki we would not have changed the killing power of the mafia and I may have got the Godfather.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I have nothing further to add; I am unconvinced. But I won't bother you again about it. My case is stated, your defense is stated. Let the votes fall where they may.

[ULC]

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...

oh, wha? Sorry fell asleep, seeing as it's night and all. However, fairly sure LW is dead tonight.

[pevergreen]

LittleGrizzly loved the village pub, but not infrequently, through his wife's persuasion, he staid at home instead and had some of the chosen and the best to dine with him: but quiet evening parties were what he preferred; and, unless he fancied himself at any time unequal to company, there was scarcely an evening in the week in which he could not be found playing chess. This particular party was of the type now habitual to the Grizzly's, with one change: they had a new guest, a strikingly handsome man named Oswald, who Mrs. Grizzly had met during a party at their neighbor's house. She had been so busy in admiring his soft blue eyes, in talking and listening, and forming all these schemes in the in-betweens, that the evening flew away at a very unusual rate; and the supper-table, which always closed such parties, and for which she had been used to sit and watch the due time, had been all set out and ready, and moved forwards to the fire, before she was aware.

LittleGrizzly tolerance level for hobnobbing with his wife's socialite friends was quite low, and he had passed it earlier than usual this evening. He retired to the library with the intention of playing a soothing game of chess with himself and was surprised to find Oswald there, holding a copy of Mansfield Park and chuckling at the uncut pages.

Grizzly, pleased to have an opponent, invited Oswald to a game of chess.

"It's an Irish game, invented by St. Patrick, so I don't know if you've heard of it, but it's easy to get the hang of" he said. Once Oswald had finished choking on his drink he accepted, and the game began.

Grizzly began the game with, he thought, great success. Pawn after pawn of Oswald's fell to his pieces, and soon there was only one remaining. But though he tried and tried to get to it, his efforts were always thwarted. Eventually he saw a way. He had castled his king in the beginning, and he realized that by moving a few of the protective pieces, he could capture the last pawn! It should be mentioned that LittleGrizzly did not have a very good understanding of the principles of chess. He moved his bishops and rooks in for the kill, but just as they were about to strike his gloating was interrupted by Oswald, who said:

"Checkmate"

"What? What!?" said LittleGrizzly, "What do you mean?"

"My knight can take your king. There is no where for him to go"

"So what? What about your pawn. I can still take that!"

Oswald spent some time trying to explain it to him, but made little progress.

"Don't feel badly, LittleGrizzly, if I recall accurately, you were outmatched even when we competed in games simpler than this one. What you failed to realize us that the pawns are inconsequential, and that exposing your king guarantees your failure"

"Failure according to you, maybe! But look at all the successes I've had! For example this pawn here--"

"That pawn was a sacrifice"

"Well, well, even so, there is this pawn here and this pawn there, they surely outweigh the importance of a king. He's just one piece!"

Oswald began to reply, but sighed instead and pulled out his silenced Walther PPK and shot LittleGrizzly in the forehead.

Alive:
GeneralHankerchief
Sasaki Kojiro
Lord Winter
serierkhaan
El Diablo

Dead:
Publius Aelius Hadrianus
A Very Super Market
Jolt
taka
Polemists
gaelic cowboy
Alexander the Pretty Good
CountArach
Psychonaut
YLC
Captain Blackadder
greyblades
shlin28
Andres
Reenk Roink
Sigurd
Seamus
Askthepizzaguy
Diana Abnoba
boudica
LittleGrizzly

Lynched:
Beefy187
F.C is the bees knees
777ares777
Ituralde
yoyoma1910
White Eyes
Factionheir


It is now Day 9. As this will be one of the final days, no names will be revealed upon lynch, to provide for the climatic morning writeup the next morning.

[LittleGrizzly]

lol, like the write up... funnily enough i have done that in chess before... got carried away wiping out all opposition pieces and then they come in and get checkmate...

Well im just glad that in the end i forced the mafia to waste a kill on me as no matter how hard they tried they couldn't get me lynched!

Lynch sasaki... then his godfather remains alone... bit less risky to try and take him alone... then it could be one of a number of people...

El Diablo who i mentioned and one or two others seemed to have suspicions also...

GH i couldn't put my finger on anything impaticular... just uneasy about GH

Lord Winter being the one left over... guess it could be him... he could even be the henchman...

But im 95% sure sasaki is one of the scum... probably the henchman...

'khaan is the most innocent looking one left... after that LordWinter imo...

Ohh and i wish i could act like this as Godfather... every person who said i deserve to win it if i was the GF, i agree!

Just wish i had been..

What say you now henchman sasaki ?

[Andres]

2 townies, 2 mafiosi and 1 neutral still alive.

*** grabs popcorn and waits for the show to start ***

[Askthepizzaguy]

Bah. I gave it my best "shot".


That whole thing was directed at me, I'm pretty sure. Methinks pever could be just delaying the inevitable. Would Shinseikhaan even bother lynching Sasaki? Or have his victory conditions been fulfilled?

I think we have a problem...

edit: I think that if we had lynched Sasaki, and we nearly, nearly did... I was off by a matter of seconds... there would have been enough force to win. So I seriously don't think we did that bad, nor did I have my eye that far off of the mark. But we will see. If Sasaki were dead, I don't think that this latest writeup would have been written by Oswald, nor with such confidence in the victory. If only my trigger finger hadn't gotten rusty.

If only; a lot of things. So close, and yet, so far.

edit 2: I see things all too clearly now. Time to swallow my pride...

[GeneralHankerchief]

Lord Winter and/or pevergreen:

Can you please clear up this whole suicide issue?

[seireikhaan]

Something....

Not right with GH. The style, for nearly the entirety of the game, has been... how shall I say, careful? Professional? Sterile? I dunno, maybe its just me and I'm way off base, but, at least for the time being...

Vote: GeneralHankerchief

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Vote:El Diablo

[LittleGrizzly]

I think the main thing is... the mafia win with everyone else dead... the town wins with all the mafia dead...

Only one of those victorys include 'khaan in the victory...

If we go for the henchman (probably sasaki outside chance its lord winter) tonight and kill him we have another round... if we miss the henchman then the game is over (2 mafia left and 2 other after night kill) if we get the henchman we have 2 good guys and a godfather... 1 lynch 1 chance...

If we go straight for the Godfather and miss then game is over (2 mafia and 1 good guy left after night kill) obviously if we hit the godfather we win...

But i don't see why sasaki cannot be the godfather... is there any good reason he is not ?

Whilst he is most probably scum in one way or another... so if we lynch him today we could get the godfather butmay just get the henchman and we have a trun left to get the godfather without Sasaki there to influence the voting...

To me mathmatically... the best chance of winning comes from lynching sasaki first...

then next round gets a bit harder... El Diablo is my bggest suspect.. followed by GH... then i guess lord winter... although he is my least suspected out of the 3 possible townies left..

LYNCH SASAKI THIS TURN!!

[GeneralHankerchief]

Vote: Sasaki.

Placeholder. Need to do some thinking/reading.

[FactionHeir]

If Sasaki is voting El Diablo, El Diablo probably is his Godfather.
That is, if Sasaki is the henchman of course.
If he is not, and its someone else...

[LittleGrizzly]

Im thinking sasaki will do a last minute vote switch thats why you have to lynch him this round...

[El Diablo]

I am keen to lynch Sasaki but will that give us enough time to get the gf?

5 left

1 Lynch

4 Left

1 Night kill

3 Left. Is it then a two on one to the finish?

If so
Vote Sasaki

[LittleGrizzly]

Is it then a two on one to the finish?

Yes... unless sasaki is actually the godfather...