The fight for Inishmore [Concluded]

[Askthepizzaguy]

I am cheerful because I was the first to expose you.

You keep saying I don't deny it, but that's the very same thing I can say about you. As long as your entire mafia family goes down, I will chuckle with glee.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Hey, Sasaki:

You should have fought for Ireland!



That would be thinking with your DIPSTICK, JIMMY!!! Scotland and Ireland, together at last!

I nudged Diana to get online. She can tell you all about me from her perspective, GeneralHankerchief.

[Diana Abnoba]

Diana: I know this was a joke, but could you please follow up with this?

It was a joke, but to tell the truth, I can't tell what pizza is doing in this game, from home activity. He is always on the computer, playing 2-3 games, hosting 2-3 games, has a heated debate going on in the backroom...I can tell you this much he seems very giddy right now. So my guess, this would be true if he were town, but you never really know with him. Is there any other way I can help? Ask.

Vote: Boudica

I am not allowed to vote to save my own life, except in the case of a tie.

If you feel that I need to be lynched, I would appreciate that it be done as a regular vote. I'm not really happy with this very unusual rule, but I'm willing to die for Ireland.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Sasaki: Would YOU be willing to die for Ireland?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Okay, as this past explosion of posts have been going on I've been sitting mostly silent, watching as it's played out.

Right now I think Oswald and Brendan have found each other in Sasaki and ATPG, respectively. They deserve to die, yes. However, they are grunts. They are unimportant. As Pizza and Sasaki have so kindly noted in the past, it's the Godfathers that matter. If we kill the Godfathers, then they go too.

Right now, I see a connection between ATPG and two people: Diana and LittleGrizzly. I also see a connection between Sasaki and boudica. Normally I would argue against the double lynch, but in this case it's fail-safe as Diana's outcome does not affect our other targets. I am less certain about Sasaki's connection to boudica, however, since it is Sasaki after all. If he wants you to look one way, chances are he's going in the other direction. However, the connection is still there.

On the other side, ATPG's double connection is more secure since we have two possible Godfathers for him, and the opportunity to get rid of both of them. If we kill Diana and lynch LittleGrizzly, the chances are very good that we've removed the IRA threat. Eliminating one mafia faction makes the game that much more vanilla, and thus easy to decipher.

Therefore, it is my suggestion that the town kill Diana this round and lynch LittleGrizzly.

Unlife: Diana
Death: Diana

There's also the slight possibility that ATPG and Sasaki are playing us all and are on the same team, as both are capable of doing so. However, we'll deal with that if this current strategy proves to be a bust.

[Askthepizzaguy]

You want me to reveal, GH?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Do whatever you want. I'm not too concerned about you either way.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I've got the perfect solution for you, GH: Lynch Boudica and Sasaki in a double lynch, and Death vote Diana.

I'll keep my vote at the ready to make sure both Boudica and Sasaki go down, and they cannot get out of it. I'd need someone else to do the same thing. Both Boudica and Sasaki must die if town has any chance of survival.

Diana requests that you don't use this Death vote against her. You can get her next round, easily.

Please. It's really an annoying rule which derailed our efforts. We may have won were it not for that rule and my foolish decision to try to save White Eyes and ACTUALLY try to get English mafia dead.

It's too late for the Irish mafia, but I delivered to you my suspects for the English mafia on a platter. It would be nice if you killed them, consider it our dying wish. You can get both of us this round, but Diana wouldn't even be under fire this round were it not for the very unusual Death vote that... well... doesn't seem right to us.

Since we are doomed, our dying request is that you destroy the English mafia.




And yes, I am Brendan, Bloody Irish Murderer extraordinaire.

Now make sure you kill Sasaki and Boudica.



We agreed before this game began, that we had little chance of winning, so the objective was to have fun and do our best. I would have been murdered tonight, and you guys would have lynched Diana soon anyway. And since the English mafia have been trying to hide from you, and you don't know who they are, it behooves you to find them. NOW.

I revealed as the Irish Godfather twice. Now I'm doing the real reveal. Brendan is a loyal patriot of Ireland, and I exposed most of the major roles in the game, and helped you solve this one. I was just roleplaying what I felt was a TRUE warrior for Ireland. We are willing to die for town. They are not. If you lynch us both next round, or Diana this round, fine. Just make sure the English go down too, that is all. Otherwise Brendan has failed in his mission.

Remember my performance this game? I played with guts and honor. Please reward me for that and KILL SASAKI AND BOUDICA!!!

[El Diablo]

Man I hate being on the other side of the world from most of you. I come in to 6 pages to catch up on.


Vote Sasaki
Death Diana

[boudica]

Well - you said it fella.

death: Diana

vote: Askthepizzaguy

[GeneralHankerchief]

That's your own fault, ATPG. I make no distinction between the IRA and the English. They're both threats that need to be removed. My primary objective in the game is to win. Removing one very large, very confusing variable immediately and significantly aids me and the rest of this town in this task.

[boudica]

That's your own fault, ATPG. I make no distinction between the IRA and the English. They're both threats that need to be removed. My primary objective in the game is to win. Removing one very large, very confusing variable immediately and significantly aids me and the rest of this town in this task.

Quite. I have no idea about Little Grizzly - I have no idea about Sasaki - but I'm not prepared to vote either of them to save my worthless butt when 'pizzaguy has just spilled the beans.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I repeat:

Diana really doesn't want to go down by this "Death" vote. It seems really unfair. Most of you don't even know why we were voting for her this round, mafia and townie alike.

Be a sport. Come on, we gave our ALL for you, and she can easily die tonight or tomorrow day.

Please. Seriously. Sasaki and Boudica, and then Diana next round. Make Diana feel welcome by releasing her from this... odd, unannounced, unprecedented rule which was the ONLY reason we got taken down.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Two things, ATPG:

1) You conveniently leave LittleGrizzly out of this little equation of yours.
2) According to the initial post, the British victory condition is to kill everyone. The IRA's victory condition is to only kill the British, while the town's victory condition is to get rid of both factions.

If the British die first, the IRA wins. They need to go first.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I've said my peace regarding Diana. I guess she can deal with the "Death" vote stuff. A shame, really. But that is the one tarnish on an otherwise fun, fun, fun game for us. I won't let it spoil our enjoyment of the game, and I feel that the real IRA might have been proud of our selfless efforts to root out English scumbags. I truly got to roleplay as a member of the Irish Republican Army.



And by the way, fellers... remember the Fight for Inishmore. Always, always, fight for Ireland.

When we die, you will know what to do.


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GH: I did not know that. I must have overlooked it, seriously. My mistake. A shame, too. Go ahead and lynch us. But remember... the English mafia must die.

Now that everything is all out in the open, I'm lighting a cigar and saying mission nearly accomplished, and winding the doomsday clock for the English with glee.



Good Game, Irish citizens. It is my honor to die for you. You played one heck of a game. I am honored that you guys actually let me live towards the end of the game. I am honored that you occasionally listened to my advice. I am honored that I got to battle almost all of you personally with my own personal brand of Wine In Front Of Me. I am honored that the English mafia left me alive as bait all game, which allowed me to have fun.

Well played, all three factions. But Ireland deserves to win, because Brendan got too cocky defending White_eyes, and that was my big error of the game. Otherwise, I picked out most of the major roles and I probably exposed the entire english mafia.

I delivered many a lovely (if boring, unfortunately) murder writeup, and I got to act out my most evil, evil fantasies by nearly murdering my way through an entire large game and nearly succeeding. I have no regrets, and I KNOW I had to be at least somewhat entertaining for you.

Our task was to find the English mafia. If we cannot win the game, so be it. At least we found them... I think. I am pretty sure that Sasaki is Oswald.




A round of ales on me, everyone.



By the way, LittleGrizzly is 100% innocent. Seems as though the Godfathers were both... Godmothers. Your Fairy Godmother and the Fire-Breathing Leprechaun have come to defend Ireland from English tyranny!

[boudica]

I repeat:

Diana really doesn't want to go down by this "Death" vote. It seems really unfair. Most of you don't even know why we were voting for her this round, mafia and townie alike.

Be a sport. Come on, we gave our ALL for you, and she can easily die tonight or tomorrow day.

Please. Seriously. Sasaki and Boudica, and then Diana next round. Make Diana feel welcome by releasing her from this... odd, unannounced, unprecedented rule which was the ONLY reason we got taken down.

Aside from GH's post above (which I admit - I am not entirely sure I can trust)- I've got a response to this:

1) Diana is VERY welcome to play here - just as we all are and if she doesn't want the weird death vote then I'm sure she can speak for herself

2) I'm REALLY glad that you turned out to be mafia ATPG - If you were townie I would have had to have called you out and knocked you on your butt for your contribution in getting me lynched today

3) Notice how I vote for you because you REVEALED YOU WERE MAFIA!

I have no certainty about anything except for that, least of all Sasaki or LG's true status. Voting you doesn't help to save me from the lynch at all, but at least - if they do lynch me - town will know which top mafia killer to do tomorrow.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I repeat:

Diana really doesn't want to go down by this "Death" vote. It seems really unfair. Most of you don't even know why we were voting for her this round, mafia and townie alike.

Be a sport. Come on, we gave our ALL for you, and she can easily die tonight or tomorrow day.

Please. Seriously. Sasaki and Boudica, and then Diana next round. Make Diana feel welcome by releasing her from this... odd, unannounced, unprecedented rule which was the ONLY reason we got taken down.

This is where your story falls apart. And by the way pizza, this is the third game in a row where you've been absolutely convinced I was mafia, and you've been wrong each time. Don't you remember the settlement, where you thought I'd converted seamus?


If you're telling the truth, then we should use the death vote on diana and lynch LG, who would have to be the English godfather.

Or, you're lying, in which case we should use the death vote on diana, and lynch LG, who would have to be the Irish godfather.

Your reveal has the ring of truth, so nicely done if it's a lie. But the part about not using the death vote points strongly towards you lying. If abnoba is innocent and LG is guilty, then lynching her tomorrow could win the game for you...it seems like your making an emotional appeal here as a tactic to keep LG alive.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Yep, even if I were wrong about you, Boudica, the English mafia will die in short order. No matter what, they cannot escape now. Diana is currently writing in her own words how she feels about the death rule, as you suggest. However, I want to make it clear we already talked to pevergreen, expressed our distaste for the rule, but agreed he was the host and it was his call. As such, we prefer to end the game on our own terms, by lighting a fire underneath the English mafia and watching it burn as we head for the gallows.

We might be criminals and murderers, but we will get them English scums, if it is literally the last thing we do.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

This is where your story falls apart. And by the way pizza, this is the third game in a row where you've been absolutely convinced I was mafia, and you've been wrong each time. Don't you remember the settlement, where you thought I'd converted seamus?


If you're telling the truth, then we should use the death vote on diana and lynch LG, who would have to be the English godfather.

Or, you're lying, in which case we should use the death vote on diana, and lynch LG, who would have to be the Irish godfather.

Your reveal has the ring of truth, so nicely done if it's a lie. But the part about not using the death vote points strongly towards you lying. If abnoba is innocent and LG is guilty, then lynching her tomorrow could win the game for you...it seems like your making an emotional appeal here as a tactic to keep LG alive.

I already made my plea regarding the Death vote. I said my peace, as I said.

No more whining from me about it. You may do as you wish.




EDIT:

Askthepizzaguy- Claiming all the carnage that is Brendan.
LittleGrizzly- not oswald due to investigation.
GeneralHankerchief- not oswald due to investigation
Sasaki Kojiro- The only remaining suspect for Oswald.
Lord Winter- privately asked to suicide this game, Mafia mastermind, if TinCow is not lying.
serierkhaan- Heilyn
Diana Abnoba- Christy (Irish Godfather)
boudica- not oswald due to investigation.
El Diablo- not oswald due to investigation.

(If town's investigative reveal wasn't a fake)


There is only one suspect left who could be Oswald: Sasaki Kojiro.
Lord Winter could be Oswald, I suppose. But someone probably wrote the kills for him, methinks, unless Lord Winter is hiding some very impressive writing ability.

But the point is, you will know who Oswald and the English Godfather is if you lynch Sasaki and Boudica. No matter what, you will prove who Oswald is.

I am willing to take a 50/50 shot on Sasaki being Oswald, especially after Lord Winter wanted out of the game, privately, and the host responded publicly. The host is neutral and would not assist Lord Winter in hiding his identity, I suspect. If I am wrong, Sasaki and Boudica's death will prove it, and I will say well done Lord Winter.

[FactionHeir]

At least I was right about ATPG. And that the RL excuse for Diana was not a good excuse

Go town!

[Askthepizzaguy]

And at least I was right about Seamus, FactionHeir, Reenk Roink, Ituralde, Seireikhaan and probably Sasaki or Boudica or both all having roles. Brenden picks teh uber rolez without using SkyNet once.

Indeed.... go town!

At least hold a proper funeral for me, your kamikaze missile of destruction. I think I got 7 roles that were hostile to my team this game picked, exposed, lynched, or murdered.

[Reenk Roink]

How on earth were you right about me Atpg? You thought I was Mafia...

Also, do you know how when I got my role? I got it when Psychonaut pulled out...

Let's not get cocky here Atpg, I disagree with most of your "gots" and I certainly think you didn't have the influence you feel you did. I still don't understand why you would throw away the game for your team like this, but

edit: This does suck if we lose one Mafia group as now we will have to lynch the others by ourselves...

[Askthepizzaguy]

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

How on earth were you right about me Atpg? You thought I was Mafia...

Also, do you know how when I got my role? I got it when Psychonaut pulled out...

Let's not get cocky here Atpg, I disagree with most of your "gots" and I certainly think you didn't have the influence you feel you did. I still don't understand why you would throw away the game for your team like this, but

I'm not throwing the game away for my team. I'm doing my job, exposing English mafia. I tried everything to get the town to lynch THEM first. It failed, too bad for us.

I thought you could be mafia or pro-town, as the quicktopic will reveal. I know you disagree with my gots, but I picked Seamus for the murder, I picked Ituralde for the lynch because the Irish mafia agreed (in the quicktopic) he seemed like English mafia. I picked Reenk because he probably had a role, any role, again the quicktopic will reveal it. Andres suggested seireikhaan, I was resistant to it, but I came around. I'll actually give him credit on that one, but I supported it and I did the murder. I picked FactionHeir over WhiteEyes and even asked Diana to help me lynch him. I laid all my cards on the table accusing Sasaki and Boudica.

I am not cocky, if you disagree with any of these picks, besides Seireikhaan I suppose, let me know. It's not important. FactionHeir was right about me, as were you, Reenk, and as such, I was right about the above. That's all, no biggie.



Pizza and ales for everyone, on me.

[Reenk Roink]

I just find it bizarre that you would gloat about basically throw away your game. Yes, you were supposed to find the English Mafia, but you were also supposed to outlast the town. Why would you just settle for one? It seems certain that the English Mafia will win the game now...

And yes, if you thought I had a role, you would be wrong until about halfway in the game. I was a townie until pever asked me if I wanted to be Mairead.

I certainly am not impressed at what you did just now, I don't think you got anything "right" anymore than anyone else did, you just paved the way for an English Mafia victory. Had you stuck around and fought them, you might have had a chance and we might have had a chance.

Ah well, I suppose it is "original" play.

edit: It seems IRA have to get rid of British only, but then you still fail. We are more certain about your identity, and not as certain about the English. Can you explain to me how you see this playing out that would culminate in a victory for:

1) Your team
2) The town

Because to me, you handed the English the ball and left the field...

[boudica]

And at least I was right about Seamus, FactionHeir, Reenk Roink, Ituralde, Seireikhaan and probably Sasaki or Boudica or both all having roles. Brenden picks teh uber rolez without using SkyNet once.

Indeed.... go town!

At least hold a proper funeral for me, your kamikaze missile of destruction. I think I got 7 roles that were hostile to my team this game picked, exposed, lynched, or murdered.

I take my earlier reticence back. You have been calling out for the lynching of innocents throughout this game, which - true - is a good thing for a mafia to do, but you HAVE SOLD YOUR GODFATHER UP THE SWANNY - and given that if you ARE Irish mafia searching for English mafia you may as well have been town - you are as much use as a bloodhound with it's nose surgically implanted a yard up it's butt.

However - if this is a last desperate ruse to clinch some kind of victory I am not aware of, then I applaud you in advance... can anyone tell I've been drinking?

*holds hands up for moderator cuffs*

[Askthepizzaguy]

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

I just find it bizarre that you would gloat about basically throw away your game. Yes, you were supposed to find the English Mafia, but you were also supposed to outlast the town. Why would you just settle for one? It seems certain that the English Mafia will win the game now...

And yes, if you thought I had a role, you would be wrong until about halfway in the game. I was a townie until pever asked me if I wanted to be Mairead.

I certainly am not impressed at what you did just now, I don't think you got anything "right" anymore than anyone else did, you just paved the way for an English Mafia victory. Had you stuck around and fought them, you might have had a chance and we might have had a chance.

Ah well, I suppose it is "original" play.

edit: It seems IRA have to get rid of British only, but then you still fail. We are more certain about your identity, and not as certain about the English. Can you explain to me how you see this playing out that would culminate in a victory for:

1) Your team
2) The town

Because to me, you handed the English the ball and left the field...

I don't expect, nor do I need, to convince you Reenk.

We tried to get them killed first, by asking for Diana to survive one round. Had you listened, we would have won. This was our best chance and I took it.

And yeah, it didn't work... it happens. And I am entitled to roleplay as an Irish patriot as I did all game, because I truly wanted to win, but I also didn't want to lose to the English mafia. Early on in the quicktopic, or midway through, I state if we lose, I'd rather lose to town than our hated rivals the English.

I did my best, sorry. And failing my objectives, I handed town the keys to destroying the English, or who I suspected they were, given my unique perspective as anti-English, and mafia.


I am glad you found it entertaining, which was also a primary goal of mine. I wanted to have FUN this time, and by Jimmy McJolty, I sure did. Winning isn't everything, and after I tried my BEST to win, I am now trying my best to have fun while helping town win.

[boudica]

Holds hands to face in advanced embarrassment that i shall feel tomorrow about the above post, but am now too drunk to stop giggling



So who is the English mafia again?

[Diana Abnoba]

I didn't want to bring this up in the thread, as not to sway people's decision, but I'm very ticked at the separate death vote on me. This is from the WE and FH lynch from last day phase. I got back on the computer after pizza's prompt, and read that WE had voted himself to be lynched. I thought as I posted, that he may be town and changed my vote to FH. It was still early enough for WE or FH to change their vote also,but they didn't. Also 5 of you didn't even vote at all! And I'm called the lurker! So when the round ended I was one of the last people to change their vote, and it ended in a tie. So Pever lynched both and put me up as bait for the tie. I would not have been quite as ticked if we knew the rule beforehand, or more people had voted to start with. I didn't want to go out like this. A regular vote to lynch fine but not this way in on a technicality.

Pizza, Andres and I have all game tried to get the English mafia. And I believe pizza was trying to save me too today,and get English mafia at the same time. Unfortunately we went down first. Frustrating to be so close.

This has been such a challenge for me, being my first game, and getting the role PM of Godfather. I almost had a heart attack that first night. It was no lie that I can't type fast at all( this took me sooo long to type), and I am not computer savvy at all. So I would like to add a special thanks to pizza for having some patience with me, when it came to this. I know it was a pain at times with all he has going on at this site. It was also hard to try and learn this game with so much on the line (2 other players would be out if I messed up), and didn't know the rest of you and what your "normal" play was.

Well it has been an adventure that is for sure, hope to play again with all of you.
*That is after I learn a little more how to work the computer with pizza's help.*
(I have had some experience with the computer, but no one to really teach me all about it, and now I do).


..........FOR THE LOVE OF IRELAND!!! ( by the way I am part Irish!)

[LittleGrizzly]

So ATPG reveals himself as scum and im supposedly the person to lynch... is someone purposefully extending a line up of lynches where we don't look at other suspects ? hmm... Sasaki..? GH may be linked with Sasaki...

By the way people my offer still stands, if Sasaki does not come out as guilty then i will place the first vote on myself...and keep it there unless people are really sure we have scum rival for my lynch...

The one time i defend ATPG from a stupid lynch and he's bloody guilty... typical... in my defence i defended Reenk for exactly the same reason... and taka....

The reason being they were being lynched for silly reasons...

We must get rid of Irish mafia in one turn so we have plenty of time to get english mafia

Unvote Sasaki
Vote ATPG

Death Diana

Im not sure how many rounds we have left if we kill both of these 2.... how many english left ?

We need to return to the suspect Sasaki after this round, ohh and by the by... won't we be able to confirm all the Irish mafia are dead thus making it impossible for me to be the godfather if ATPG and Diana are confirmed, or is there still another one left after that?

The question mark indicates im looking for an answer rather than hinting at things....

[Askthepizzaguy]

Tally:

Boudica: 3 (Shinseikhaan, Askthepizzaguy, Diana Abnoba)
LittleGrizzly: 2 (GH, Sasaki)
ATPG: 2 (boudica, LG)
Sasaki: 1 (El Diablo)

Diana up or down vote:

Life: 1 (Pizza)
Death: 6 (Shinseikhaan, Sasaki, GH, boudica, LG, El Diablo)

Please recheck my tallies.