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    MY god. not yours or anyone elses. he did not order those things.
    shame on you for saying that i have no problem with 9/11 and the like. thats libel.
    Your god is also the god of the Christians and Muslims.
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    Your god is also the god of the Christians and Muslims.
    Who says? He's the Christian God yes, but quite different from Allah.
    At the end of the day politics is just trash compared to the Gospel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr View Post
    Who says? He's the Christian God yes, but quite different from Allah.
    In interpretation, yes. But all three faiths trace back to Abraham.
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    In interpretation, yes. But all three faiths trace back to Abraham.
    So if you come from the Judeo-Christian tradition, you could say it is acceptable for yourself to act in God's name, but not someone doing it in the name of Allah.
    At the end of the day politics is just trash compared to the Gospel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr View Post
    So if you come from the Judeo-Christian tradition, you could say it is acceptable for yourself to act in God's name, but not someone doing it in the name of Allah.
    And vice versa. And here we hit the crux of the whole argument. God did not personally appear before all the Israelites and tell them that the 7 nations were evil and must be destroyed. These things go through a unreliable, unverifiable, and biased, human filter. Be they priest, pharisee, pope, OBL, divine-right king, prophet, OT8, etc. Just because some ancient book says "God told them to do it", doesn't make it so, this is a very common and convenient way of justifying evil deeds for personal gain.

    Hooahguy's whole argument is that some human, claiming to have insight into God's wishes, tells people it's ok to burn/rape/pillage in his name, it's all good. Thus justifying holy war, pogroms, militant Islamic terror, the works.

    And he also doesn't like to share.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drone View Post
    And vice versa. And here we hit the crux of the whole argument. God did not personally appear before all the Israelites and tell them that the 7 nations were evil and must be destroyed. These things go through a unreliable, unverifiable, and biased, human filter. Be they priest, pharisee, pope, OBL, divine-right king, prophet, OT8, etc. Just because some ancient book says "God told them to do it", doesn't make it so, this is a very common and convenient way of justifying evil deeds for personal gain.

    Hooahguy's whole argument is that some human, claiming to have insight into God's wishes, tells people it's ok to burn/rape/pillage in his name, it's all good. Thus justifying holy war, pogroms, militant Islamic terror, the works.

    And he also doesn't like to share.
    Hooah isn't justifying Muslim extremists, since he doesn't even believe Allah exists. Obviously it will appear like a double-standard from a secular point of view, but remember he believes there's only one God who can justify people's actions.

    Also, Hooah isn't basing everything on some human, since I'm sure he will feel he has some relationship with God. Not that I'm suggesting a voice should tell him to smite the Canaanites, but he trusts in the God of the Old Testament.
    At the end of the day politics is just trash compared to the Gospel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr View Post
    Hooah isn't justifying Muslim extremists, since he doesn't even believe Allah exists. Obviously it will appear like a double-standard from a secular point of view, but remember he believes there's only one God who can justify people's actions.
    Allah and the J/C God are one in the same. All 3 religions worship the same God, they just do it in different ways due to, surprise surprise, different human interpretations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr View Post
    Also, Hooah isn't basing everything on some human, since I'm sure he will feel he has some relationship with God. Not that I'm suggesting a voice should tell him to smite the Canaanites, but he trusts in the God of the Old Testament.
    I'm not questioning his faith in God, I'm questioning his blind acceptance of the words (spoken or written) of humans that various bad things are cleared through the Almighty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drone View Post
    Hooahguy's whole argument is that some human, claiming to have insight into God's wishes, tells people it's ok to burn/rape/pillage in his name, it's all good. Thus justifying holy war, pogroms, militant Islamic terror, the works.

    And he also doesn't like to share.
    actually only kill. to rape them would be impure. just sayin'
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