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[Mailman653]

It could also be a new project or the debut of the MP campaign.

[antisocialmunky]

If I were CA or Sega, I would make multiple campaigns. Its really weird that a '4x' based franchise only does single expansion.

[jsberry]

If I were CA or Sega, I would make multiple campaigns. Its really weird that a '4x' based franchise only does single expansion.

I'd line to see a short 4-player campaign of 1805-15, could they do that?

[Zenicetus]

So why are people excited about an expansion that builds on ETW's current very sorry state?You want more of the same just with different looking units and locations?

No, I think it's more like this: People expect CA to have to patch up the main game to a reasonable state, before they can hope to market an expansion. Without an expansion on the horizon, they have less incentive to do that.

Whether they do that or not, remains to be seen. We know (I think?) that they're working on at least one more patch for ETW. What we don't know, is if they'll apply fixes to the expansion that don't get applied to the original game, which is what they did with the Kingdoms expansion for M2TW (unit balancing).

[FactionHeir]

They hardly did that for M2TW, why expect it for ETW?

[fenir]

Posted by AnweRU
Remembers a small tribe of ~ 600 cavalrymen eventually conquering Byzantium, Serbia, Hungary, Bosnia, Albania, Mamluke Syria and Egypt, the Caucauses, and what is today Iraq and Iran, and sending fleets as far as Ireland and Burma.

I dont remember 600 of Anything, doing much, let alone Conquering the Roman Empire, (Byzantium as you call it).

Hungary has been taken only twice in the last 1000 Years. And both times it was 10,000's more than 600 men on ponies.

Also remembers a small group of rebels turned revolutionaries, whose navy by 1945 was larger than all the rest of the world's navies combined - and most of those navies were ships built by said nation...

No nation has had that, not even the most recently historically dominate one, The Royal Navies. The two Biggest navies in 1945, was the HM King Georges Navies, and the Untied States Navy.


HM King George, Of United Kingdom of Great Britian, Canada, Australia, South Africa, New Zealand, India and 50 other countries ....navies were 16% larger than the USN in 1945, in Combat ships. Whereas the USN had a far larger Support fleet due to pacific operations. Whereas the Empire and Commonwealth used bases.
And HM Navies, and the USN where the two largest in the world 1945.
Just like D Day, 2496 Ships, 2298 Where Royal Navies of King George.

So i am not sure who you are talking about.


Sincerely

fenir

[peacemaker]

well, don't get too focused about 600 cavalrymen conquering so much land. Remember, "epic" battles are generally fought between a few thousand men tops, unless you incorporate a mod.

I'm hoping for the big release next week to be a MP campaign, I want to try to team up with someone and conquer every province in the world

[Durallan]

well contrary to what normally happens, everyone hopes that the mechanics of a game will improve as they go to a new version, instead of say, not improving at all, but it looks like alot of people are getting fed up with this so if CA don't improve their form, its going to be the last time for quite a few people, including myself, I'll see what their expansion is like, If they can at least stop the AI banging its head against a wall to count , I'm sure we all will appreciate the improvement!

[Tora]

Oh joy!

An update on news about Napoleon: Total War will be announced later this week

In the meantime......

[Monsieur Alphonse]

Oh joy!

An update on news about Napoleon: Total War will be announced later this week

In the meantime......

Yip. News from the com:

17th August:

Hi guys,

For those of you reading about Napoleon: Total War, an official announcement will be made this week. Please stay tuned for further details at www.totalwar.com.

Thanks,

Mark O'Connell
(aka SenseiTW)

[Dead Guy]

Cue shock and surprise.

I hope they'll find the time to fix some of the simple issues that are still present before releasing an expansion, but I guess the norm is 3 patches and then expansion+patch --> next game.

[Durallan]

I think a new game after the expansion would be rather silly, they have a really good engine now, all it needs is a spit and polish and another expansion after napoleon that includes the ENTIRE WORLD! and a few different campaigns, or the choice to choose your own starting point, or at least 4 different starting points, and choice of victory conditions, and fixing the AI! no new game till theyve done that lol annd they are going to continue supporting empire

17th August:

Hi guys,

Just to confirm - we are going to continue supporting Empire: Total War with content and Update 1.4 is well in development.

Thanks,

Mark O'Connell
(aka SenseiTW)

[Slaists]

I dont remember 600 of Anything, doing much, let alone Conquering the Roman Empire, (Byzantium as you call it).

Hungary has been taken only twice in the last 1000 Years. And both times it was 10,000's more than 600 men on ponies.

What he meant was that Ottomans (those 600 horsemen on ponies) were the ones behind the Turkish conquest. Of course, they had massive armies, but they were the "brain" behind the process.

No nation has had that, not even the most recently historically dominate one, The Royal Navies. The two Biggest navies in 1945, was the HM King Georges Navies, and the Untied States Navy.


HM King George, Of United Kingdom of Great Britian, Canada, Australia, South Africa, New Zealand, India and 50 other countries ....navies were 16% larger than the USN in 1945, in Combat ships. Whereas the USN had a far larger Support fleet due to pacific operations. Whereas the Empire and Commonwealth used bases.
And HM Navies, and the USN where the two largest in the world 1945.
Just like D Day, 2496 Ships, 2298 Where Royal Navies of King George.

So i am not sure who you are talking about.

What he meant was the US. At the start of the revolution in 1775, the US army was a rag-tag band. See what came of it some 150 years later.

[Mailman653]

I suppose the addition of various shako wearing units will be nice.

[AussieGiant]

I suppose the addition of various shako wearing units will be nice.

Oooohhh. lowish blow by the user community.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Couldn't they have just released the MP campaign first....... THAT IS ALL I AM WAITING ON! I do not need another expansion that will cost 40 bucks and add hardly anything to the original.

[FactionHeir]

See Durallan, he said they'll support it with DLCs, not with patches. The 1.4 patch was mentioned in the same sentence in a particular way, meaning that no more than 1 patch planned.

[Mailman653]

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...46#post5795646
Four screens of the new expansion from French article.

Although something highly odd is that if you look at the bottom of the pages, you'll see a date. Three of them say Sept 08, the other says Sept 09. Looks like someone messed up during the printing.

[Durallan]

I did indeed forget about DLC's FactionHeir, you could be quite right there, they were dipping their toes in the proverbial water so to speak with the Elite Units of the West, however they will have to remember that while alot of people are willing to pay bits of more money (look at microtransactions on MMO's) what they get in return has to be something worthwhile that will add gameplay, The Elite Units of the West probably isn't too terrible, but considering what you paid for the entire game, it might seem a bit overpriced, but until they release more unit packs, I would say thats not too expensive for just the one DLC, of units only, but indeed they will need to increase the value of their DLC's


and I would really like for them to release one way or another a grand campaign map of the entire world, they can leave out antartica if they like though lol, if the trade lanes were a part of the world map it might encourage more competition, although i realise that a world campaign map would considerably slow everyone down quite a bit and I'd guess that save games would be 250mb's each, but we want to control the world! and have a challenging time of it too! it really does seem a shame with the campaign map they have now that the entire world isn't on it, anyway thats something I would really like to see, although more important than this is of course

Fixing the AI! so fix it!

[antisocialmunky]

I'm not really tempted to buy N:TW unless we can hunt the Great Auk into extinction for fun.

[Husar]

If they finance more patches with some DLC that's actually somewhat useful and fun(and not overpriced, the first one was about right compared to a sackboy costume for 2.49EUR), then I won't complain.

[Slaists]

I suspect, this will be a standalone expansion, not an add-on onto the current map. For one, Napoleon era is quite short so, they'd need to go to multiple turns per year (instead of 2 for ETW) to make it meaningful. The European map should be more detailed too. So, more forecast is: something similar to Alexander expansion for RTW.

[antisocialmunky]

I wonder how they will handle Switzerland this time around...

[Zenicetus]

If they finance more patches with some DLC that's actually somewhat useful and fun(and not overpriced, the first one was about right compared to a sackboy costume for 2.49EUR), then I won't complain.

That economic model doesn't work unless a majority of players are happy with the original game. I bought every one of the DLC's for Fallout 3. Some were better than others, but I was willing to take a chance because the core game was playable, without any major flaws (assuming you liked the game at all). That's not the case with Empire. I won't buy any DLC's or expansion until they fix the core game, and I suspect a significant portion of the customer base feels the same way.

[FactionHeir]

That economic model doesn't work unless a majority of players are happy with the original game. I bought every one of the DLC's for Fallout 3. Some were better than others, but I was willing to take a chance because the core game was playable, without any major flaws (assuming you liked the game at all). That's not the case with Empire. I won't buy any DLC's or expansion until they fix the core game, and I suspect a significant portion of the mature and educated customer base feels the same way.

There, fixed it for you.
Unfortunately we are overall a minority - and CA will promise you heaven on earth and patches with the expansion and yet again (after RTW and M2TW) not deliver.

[Husar]

Yeah, thanks a lot.

[crpcarrot]

That economic model doesn't work unless a majority of players are happy with the original game. I bought every one of the DLC's for Fallout 3. Some were better than others, but I was willing to take a chance because the core game was playable, without any major flaws (assuming you liked the game at all). That's not the case with Empire. I won't buy any DLC's or expansion until they fix the core game, and I suspect a significant portion of the customer base feels the same way.

i agree you dont buy DLC for a game you are not playing

[Husar]

i agree you dont buy DLC for a game you are not playing

That's right, I was thinking more long term, I'd play the game again once the diplomacy and black knight AI are fixed. If they would then decide to further bugfix the game and release, say, the whole african continent DLC for 5 bucks along with the patch, I'd seriously consider it, unless they broke something else in the process that would ruin the game. I would prefer that over sega saying it's too expensive and won't be supported anymore at all.

[Quid]

I wonder how they will handle Switzerland this time around...

Ignore the country and add some merc units? Most likely.

Quid

[Dead Guy]

I wish they would make an expansion that features less AI-turn CTDs, less CTDs when selecting fleets and less out of video memory CTDs. I've lost my third campaign today, not because my armies were destroyed and my land was conquered but because the program wont run anymore. This is the hardest total war game ever, I haven't been able to win a single campaign. This... is... not sparta.