well contrary to what normally happens, everyone hopes that the mechanics of a game will improve as they go to a new version, instead of say, not improving at all, but it looks like alot of people are getting fed up with this so if CA don't improve their form, its going to be the last time for quite a few people, including myself, I'll see what their expansion is like, If they can at least stop the AI banging its head against a wall to count , I'm sure we all will appreciate the improvement!