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[johnhughthom]

The Senate Building Rome, 483 AUC.

As the Senators arrive in the building they see Dentatus is already there, for all they know he may have been there for days. He is looking even older than last time, surely he won't last another year. When the room was full he rose and addressed Romes men of influence.

Fellows, Rome's rise to greatness continues unabated. The evil mercenaries who took advantage of the fearful people of Rhegion are no more. Perhaps some of you watched as Rome took her revenge?

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Forgot to turn off general cam again!!!!

Now we must forget the past and look to the future, once again we have a new responsibility and must decide how to handle it. Also we still haven't addressed the role of Ariminium, do we control her directly, or should the residents have a degree of self-government?
Our ambassadors arrived in Epiros within the last few weeks and agreed a peace deal. I am told they are hard at work on more than one front, their war with the Macedons goes well, indeed they control the Macedon homeland, birthplace of Alexander. They are also working to subdue the Illyrian coast, Dalminion is already under siege and may fall within the year. We need to decide is this advantageous for us, Epirote control of the region should control piracy in the Adriatic, or is it an Imperialistic streak we need to subdue? Some of you have already spoken of the need to engage in this theatre, Dentatus nods at Arnza Perperna, Personally I think it a reckless thought, how many legions would we need to take and garrison the region? It is, however up to you as the engineers of the will of Rome. It seems to me there are three fronts, Sicily, Gallic Italia or Illyria/Greece. Involvement in the first front would bring us into conflict with an old friend and trading partner, one would lead us to fighting savages and the other strikes me as madness. What do we do?

He sits with a sigh, nodding to the Senate to air their opinions.

[Karo]

Now we must forget the past and look to the future, once again we have a new responsibility and must decide how to handle it. Also we still haven't addressed the role of Ariminium, do we control her directly, or should the residents have a degree of self-government?
Our ambassadors arrived in Epiros within the last few weeks and agreed a peace deal. I am told they are hard at work on more than one front, their war with the Macedons goes well, indeed they control the Macedon homeland, birthplace of Alexander. They are also working to subdue the Illyrian coast, Dalminion is already under siege and may fall within the year. We need to decide is this advantageous for us, Epirote control of the region should control piracy in the Adriatic, or is it an Imperialistic streak we need to subdue? Some of you have already spoken of the need to engage in this theatre,[/I] Dentatus nods at Arnza Perperna, Personally I think it a reckless thought, how many legions would we need to take and garrison the region? It is, however up to you as the engineers of the will of Rome. It seems to me there are three fronts, Sicily, Gallic Italia or Illyria/Greece. Involvement in the first front would bring us into conflict with an old friend and trading partner, one would lead us to fighting savages and the other strikes me as madness. What do we do?

He sits with a sigh, nodding to the Senate to air their opinions.

Marcus Iulius Rufus stands up

"We hear again of a great victory, and I didn't expect anything lesser. First point I would like to adres is what we need to do with Arminium, I say we need to rule it ourselves with the laws of Rome. Second point is what to do now. I know that my plans for attacking Carthage aren't welcomed by the majority of the senate. But after some time I'm certain that all of them will realise that what I proposed was the right thing to do. Because I don't believe they'll expand in Africa or Iberia after they are done in Sicily. But they'll move in too Italy. And they'll attack Roman land and I hope it will not be too late too repel their attack. Now what do we need to do is conquer the northern part of Italy maybe there are mines in the mountains that will bring riches to us. Attacking Hellas now would be madness, some people are forgetting the two mighty empires in the east who wouldn't like if we came and tried to conquer Hellas. And we don't need all of Hellas to unite against an external enemy. Their time will come but it's not now."
He sits back down

[penguinking]

Quintus Livius Postumus rises to speak.

"We should establish direct control over Ariminium. It will take time, but having the province directly controlled by Rome will let us stamp out any last remnants of Celtic influence, and eventually proper Roman troops can be recruited from there.

For reasons that have already been stated by myself and others, attacking Carthage now is a foolish decision. We can profit far more from trading with them than fighting them. The proposal to expand to the east also strikes me as unwise. Any attempt to expand into Greece would require a massive buildup of forces, including constructing an expensive fleet, and probably multiple legions. We would have to fight Epeiros, which, judging from Senator Dentatus' report, seems to be quite powerful. If we did conquer Epeiros, that would just bring us into conflict with more powers- Makedonia, the Greek city states, and vicious Thracian tribes. We have made peace with Epeiros, and they no longer pose any threat to us. For now we should be content to trade with them.

I propose we turn our legions to the north, where they can bring the fertile Po Valley under the control of Rome. The savages defending it are fierce and wild, but they are neither numerous nor united. The trading center of Bononia is an ideal place to attack."

[Vasiliyi]

Lucius Aurelaus Cotta stands.

"Dear men of Rome! It is good to hear of victory. It will show the world that we Romans are full of Honor and will not tolerate traitors. Now, I believe we should watch carthage in sicily, but not attack it. Let them try to attack those Mammertines. King Heiro of Syrakousai will not allow them to conquer him and it would definitely take them many years to control those cities.

If the senators are worried about carthaginian expansion into italy, let us post a legion around Rhegion to defend it.

Now, let us consider taking the cities of the Po valley. Segesta, Bononia, Patavium are all great targets to expand and allow Roman law to subside there. As for Eporites, it is too early to tell what path we might need to take."

Sits down.

[johnhughthom]

Dentatus rises once more.

Well it seems the will of the Senate is to conquer the Gauls to the north. The only sensible choice, it is good to see reason and good sense win out. The only problem I see is that most of you distrust our Punic allies and want to leave a Legion near Rhegion, that leaves us with only one Legion left to assault the Gauls, not enough in my view and I would actually go as far as to say it would be suicidal to attack with it alone. The people will not stomach the raising of another Legion unless we give something back.

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One of my house rules is I start with two Legions and they are disbanded after sixteen years and new ones raised. Each time I add one more Legion, it helps keep the game interesting and makes your choices more important and make blitzing almost impossible(especially since I don't retrain either). My proposal for raising a new Legion would be we have to reduce taxes to low across the board to simulate keeping the populace subdued, and they can't be raised until the "extra" legion is disbanded.

I ask you, do we really need to keep a Legion in the south? Taras and Rhegion have the ability to raise emergency troops in the event of a Punic betrayal and I have no reason to expect such a move. In fact I would be flabbergasted if they did, they have as much reason as us to keep cordial relations, the trade between us enriches us both.

[Ghaust the Moor]

Arnza Perpana Stands once more:

"Men of the Senate, I beeseech you. Do not wage war with Carthage, as senator Quintius Livius, and myself, have said: Carthage is not one to be messed with. The effects will be catastrophic, and Denatus, won't a war with Carthage cost more legions, than a campaign with Greece? The greek people, are not rebbellious. They will require little "Reassurence" once we have captured their cities, seen what good roman steel can do to a greek warrior, and (if it need come to this) watched their brethren enslaved. If the intelligence is to be believed, than a war with Epiroes is needed. The Epirotes, have supposedly subdueded the Illyrians before, thus, an attck with them can mean only one thing, they wish to make Illyria a client kingdom under their rule so they may reap the benifits of the Illyrians raiding our coast. No, this is not to suppress piracy, it is to endorse it. On the matter of the "two great kingdoms", they should not be worried about. The Seluicids are indeed allied with the Macedonians, and the Ptolomaics with the Greeks, but they are nothing. The Seluicids are to busy with problems of thier own. Are they not at war with the Ptolomaics? They also have to deal with the fledgling kingdoms of Hayasdan, and Pontus, and lets not forget the rebellious Bactrians. The Ptolomaics, are of even less worry. They are allied with Epiroes and The Greek Coallition, but they have little-to-no-influence. The last of thier overseas holdings ( in Asia minor mind you) is under threat from the Seluicids, and their only hopes for expansion, are north into Seluicid territory, and east...into our allies, the Carthaginians. If we are lucky the Ptolomaics will expand in both directions, and tire themselves, the Seluicids, and the Carthaginians out. Then, and only then will a war with Carthage be acceptable. Now, On the matter of Ariminium, I believe that we should make them directly under roman rule, lest the should rebel. That is all. "

Anrza sits again, feeling lucky.


EDIT: Dangit post came to late

[Vasiliyi]

Lucius stands agian,

"Then it is settled. Both legions should march on Bononia, or Segesta. Whichever Dentatus seems fit. There will be no new Legion as this will be too much for the populace to bear. 2 legions is more than enough."

[johnhughthom]

Dangit post came to late

And it was such a nice post too.

Don't worry about it, it's nice too have someone press for something different. You just have to convince the other Senators it's a good idea now. A few bribes maybe...

[Ghaust the Moor]

And it was such a nice post too.

Don't worry about it, it's nice too have someone press for something different. You just have to convince the other Senators it's a good idea now. A few bribes maybe...

Hahahah. I tend to always go against the majority. My ideas just seem to roll that way I mean they make sense in my head.

[johnhughthom]

The Senate Building Rome, 484 AUC.

The Senate building is strangely quiet despite being full, the death of Dentatus three months ago has left them without an obvious figurehead Nobody has the authority or courage to stand up and take control of the session. Eventually a former Consul by the name of Lucius Cornelius Nervi takes the stand.

Men of Rome, the past year has seen our control of Rhegion pass onto locals loyal to Rome. We are in total control of the new settlement in Ariminium and a Legion there guards the passes from the north. The second Legion is marching north as we speak to join with their fellows and assault the town of Bononia, Dentatus believed that was were the savages who raided our farms came from. The information on our rivals is sketchy, Carthage has not attempted a new assault on Messana, the Epirotes failed to take Dalminion but we know little else. Perhaps we should think of a way to keep on top of what is happening around us?

Nervi sits once again